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BS: Vertew, Vyce, and Foly: David Lindsay
| keberoxu | 10 Nov 15 - 03:38 PM | |
| Rapparee | 10 Nov 15 - 05:12 PM | |
| keberoxu | 10 Nov 15 - 06:22 PM | |
| GUEST,Allan Conn | 10 Nov 15 - 07:04 PM | |
| keberoxu | 11 Nov 15 - 12:24 PM | |
| keberoxu | 11 Nov 15 - 01:05 PM | |
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Subject: BS: Vertew, Vyce, and Foly: David Lindsay From: keberoxu Date: 10 Nov 15 - 03:38 PM The reason this is a breeze-shooting thread is because I don't know of a musical context for David Lindsay, also spelled Lyndsay, Lindesay, and so on. David Lindsay was the Makar for Scotland when James V was king, and survived that monarch's death at, which battle was it? Pinkie, or Solway Moss? (you can tell I'm not a Scot, apologies) By this time, Lindsay had pretty much completed a massive entertainment that he had aired in Interlude form years earlier at the Lithlingow (have I misspelled it?) palace, where Cromwell's secret agents reported on it. Don't be thrown by the subject title of my thread. It refers to said massive entertainment, for which the complete unabridged name reads something like, A Pleasant Satyre of the Thrie Estaites, in Commendatioun of Vertew and Vituperatioun of Vyce. So why did I throw in the word "Foly"? Because Foly is one of the characters in this sprawling morality play, and he gets to have the penultimate last word. The ultimate last word goes to Diligence, who functions somewhat like a Greek chorus. When recently doing some self-education about literature and culture in Scotland (blame Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin on network television for that), I found myself watching, online, one installment after another of the many videos which it took to document a live performance, within the last five years or so, of Lindsay's morality play. A landmark occasion, as great trouble was gone to, in order that the presentation be unabridged. And it does, indeed, go on for hours and hours! They picked a broiling hot sunny summer day to do it, on the Peel at Lithlingow. Amongst the many veterans of Scottish theater were Tam Dean Burn as Divyne Correctioun, complete with fluffy white angel's wings (he took them off and returned to the stage without the wings, at one point in the marathon). I could not stop watching this....to be truthful, I skipped a few scenes and I have not seen the whole blooming thing. Will have to go back, get comfy, take a deep breath, and watch what I missed before....sometime. Anybody else here know what I am carrying on about? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Vertew, Vyce, and Foly: David Lindsay From: Rapparee Date: 10 Nov 15 - 05:12 PM No, but I can find out and let you know if you're delusional. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Vertew, Vyce, and Foly: David Lindsay From: keberoxu Date: 10 Nov 15 - 06:22 PM I do sound delusional, don't I? Cromwell's secret agents, and all. To say nothing of a sunny summer day in Scotland of all places. Here is where you may find the videos, and see for yourself. You don't see this in the URL, but the account is labeled, Staging the Scottish Court. I may fail to make a blue clicky, but I will spell out the URL if nothing else. https://vimeo.com/user19355495 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Vertew, Vyce, and Foly: David Lindsay From: GUEST,Allan Conn Date: 10 Nov 15 - 07:04 PM I know some add the Vertew, Vyce and Foly bit but the play is more commonly just titled "Ane Satyre Of The Thrie Estaites" in Scotland so easier for people to know what is being discussed if that is the abridged titled used or just "The Thrie Estaites". I have the Canongate paper back issue which was published in 1989. The spelling of the town is Linlithgow. You're right James V died at Solway Moss. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Vertew, Vyce, and Foly: David Lindsay From: keberoxu Date: 11 Nov 15 - 12:24 PM Thank you Allan Conn! Your Canongate paperback is the critical edition, of which the editor is Roderick Lyall; he combines two separate sources to arrive at his version of the Satyre. John Corbett is another name to recommend, although what he published is not the play itself. He wrote a much smaller paperback, "Sir David Lyndsay's A Satire of the Three Estates", published as Scotnotes no. 26 by the Association for Scottish Literary studies. Readily available at such sellers as Amazon, which is where I bought my copy. Corbett's book is an enormous help to me. Corbett is a professor accustomed to teaching David Lindsay to students with no previous exposure to Scotland or to Scots speech (Brazil, for example) and so he has written a summary and commentary, with study guide questions, that is enthusiastic and can be understood by a reader who knows absolutely nothing about the subject beforehand. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Vertew, Vyce, and Foly: David Lindsay From: keberoxu Date: 11 Nov 15 - 01:05 PM "Stultorum numerus infinitus." The number of fuillis ar infinite (line 4506, Canongate/Lyall). Spoken by Foly. |
