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Subject: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Vic Smith Date: 10 Jul 15 - 03:21 PM I have never seen the point of emoticons. Then suddenly I see this from the very creative Frank Ingnobody and I can understand what is going on (and thanks to Lawrence if he helped him out). |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Vic Smith Date: 10 Jul 15 - 05:56 PM Has anyone worked out what it is? I think it is very clever. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Joe_F Date: 10 Jul 15 - 06:37 PM Smile when you say that, mister! %^) |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Jack Campin Date: 10 Jul 15 - 07:20 PM I can't work out all the details but I get the general idea. Maybe somebody could subtitle a YouTube video of it that way. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: michaelr Date: 10 Jul 15 - 07:25 PM Jaysus, I can't be arsed. Another nail in the coffin of language. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Joe Offer Date: 10 Jul 15 - 07:26 PM Oh, darn. I'm never good at catching on to these things, and then I feel so left out when everybody else seems to know.. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Jack Campin Date: 10 Jul 15 - 07:27 PM They aren't in coffins. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: michaelr Date: 10 Jul 15 - 11:26 PM The English language is, Jack. Joe, there's no need to feel left out of crap you wouldn't want to be a part of. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Gurney Date: 11 Jul 15 - 02:01 AM Well, I couldn't be arsed either. Anyway, emoticons are stuff like this :-) to indicate an intention when sending brief messages, aren't they? |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Mo the caller Date: 11 Jul 15 - 02:50 AM It's more like a rebus (pictogram). That one wouldn't help unless you already knew the words of the song. e.g. I can't remember the sailors name and that doesn't tell me, so it's not even a proper rebus. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: GUEST,CS Date: 11 Jul 15 - 03:04 AM A King sitting in his throne, drinking red wine. Followed by a question about sailors and ships. The first line gives it away - I'm surprised no-one here's got it yet. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: GUEST,Ed Date: 11 Jul 15 - 03:13 AM Some of us did get it, but didn't want to give an obvious spoiler away... Ho hum. Whether it's a 'proper' rebus puzzle or not, I enjoyed solving it, so thanks Vic. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: GUEST,Jack Campin Date: 11 Jul 15 - 05:00 AM This might be a clue: http://tinyurl.com/oxo8hl3 |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Vic Smith Date: 11 Jul 15 - 06:12 AM It was that third symbol that Jack links to that was the give away for me. I have made many visits to the 'auld grey toun' in decades past and remembered their civic coat of arms. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Noreen Date: 11 Jul 15 - 11:03 AM Yes- good fun, thanks Vic :) |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Rob Naylor Date: 11 Jul 15 - 07:43 PM Had to "read" a few lines, but got it pretty quickly, which surprised me as my initial mindset was not expecting a song! |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Rob Naylor Date: 12 Jul 15 - 02:45 AM I think, though, that rather than "emoticons" these are what have come to be described as "emojis"....originally pictograms used by the Japanese in their electronic comms, with a much wider variety than the original emoticons that could be cobbled up from an ASCII character set. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: John Minear Date: 12 Jul 15 - 08:23 AM You miss things if you stick to the point. - Hmong saying |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Bill D Date: 12 Jul 15 - 09:44 AM If you DON'T stick to the point, everyone else misses things. old Bill D saying I just made up. ☺ |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: GUEST Date: 12 Jul 15 - 09:49 AM Must be dim. I haven't a clue. Is it a really well known song? |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: GUEST,Ed Date: 12 Jul 15 - 10:13 AM Is it a really well known song? I suppose that depends upon your terms of reference. Well known to the general public? No. Well known to people familiar with British traditional songs? I'd say yes. Although I'd admit that I probably wouldn't have got it if I'd not heard Martin Carthy singing it last week, which brought it to the front of my mind. If you look back through the previous posts: CS gives a King drinking wine and Jack Campin links to the Coat of Arms for Dunfermline. Whack those terms into a search engine and you're pretty much there... |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: GUEST Date: 12 Jul 15 - 10:21 AM Funny indeed. Would be even more striking if it were made entirely of "icons" found elsewhere - most are obviously ad-hoc. I love those direction signs; who can fathom them (let alone fadom)? GUEST: the song is not in the charts currently. Jack Campin (11 Jul 15 - 05:00 AM) gave a very good clue - click your way through Wikipedia. Or Google the other clues. Any more would amount to a spoiler. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: GUEST,Grishka Date: 12 Jul 15 - 10:23 AM That (12 Jul 15 - 10:21 AM) was I. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: GUEST,😇 Date: 12 Jul 15 - 10:36 AM Well, that was fun. Can we have 'join the dots' and 'colouring in' songs to occupy us on the next rainy July afternoon. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: FreddyHeadey Date: 12 Jul 15 - 12:42 PM crayons out...don't click till it rains |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Richard Mellish Date: 12 Jul 15 - 03:46 PM I identified the ballad from the king, the throne and the wine, and concluded from those that the shield must represent Dunfermline. I still don't get all of it. And the July dates surprised me, as I have always assumed that the bad time of year for the voyage was the winter, though I concede that we do get thunderstorms in the summer. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Vic Smith Date: 12 Jul 15 - 06:55 PM Richard Mellish wrote "And the July dates surprised me," Hmm. I think that the 'July' is not as important as conveying the three days of the verse that runs:- They hoisted their sails on Monenday morn, ... and I think we must be careful about taking what is clearly intended as a bit of fun too seriously. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Jack Campin Date: 12 Jul 15 - 08:44 PM "Monanday" could mean the first Monday of the year. On the other hand the Maid of Norway (assuming the ballad is about her) was drowned in late September. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Reinhard Date: 12 Jul 15 - 11:34 PM Yes, the 'July' is not as important as conveying the three days of the verse that runs:- They had not sailed upon the sea A day, a day, but barely three, When loud and boisterous grew the wind And loud and stormy grew the sea |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: GUEST,Scabby douglas Date: 13 Jul 15 - 04:30 AM ... I read the previous post and thought "*stormy* grew the sea"? I don't remember that - but it's decades since I read it. And the word I had in my head was "gurly". Turns out that stuff you read in school 4 decades ago stays with you more than you might imagine: "When the lift grew dark, an the wind blew loud An gurly grew the sea" |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Jack Campin Date: 13 Jul 15 - 05:16 AM Most listeners would hear that as saying the waves turned pink and the rigging was overwhelmed by a tangle of swirling satin ribbons decorated with blingy crystals. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Noreen Date: 13 Jul 15 - 06:12 AM Probably became most well known through the singing of Fairport Convention over the years, but also a set text for AQA English A level. Jack Campin, your picture made me smile |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Phil Edwards Date: 13 Jul 15 - 08:16 AM Vic - I got it at emoticon four of line one! (I've got the first two lines engraved on the back of my iPod.) What do I win? |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Phil Edwards Date: 13 Jul 15 - 08:22 AM ...although lines 8 and 9 (of 10) lost me completely (the ladies have got fans in their hands in the versions I know best, not combs and mirrors). |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: GUEST Date: 13 Jul 15 - 11:32 AM Yipee, Phil! You know a different version. Thank you so much for sharing. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: GUEST,😇 Date: 13 Jul 15 - 11:38 AM Then you really don't want to know what the ladies have got in their hands in another version I could sing. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Vic Smith Date: 13 Jul 15 - 12:20 PM Phil Edwards wrote "What do I win?" Well done Phil! Here is your most appropriate prize - ☺ |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Vic Smith Date: 20 Jul 15 - 08:47 AM Now that you have got the idea, this next one from F shoul be much |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Vic Smith Date: 20 Jul 15 - 08:49 AM Whoops! Now that you have got the idea, this next one from Frank Ingnobody should be much easier. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Reinhard Date: 20 Jul 15 - 10:19 AM The Turkish flag makes the puzzle quite obvious, Vic. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: GUEST,Ed Date: 20 Jul 15 - 11:39 AM Yep, easy peasy! And for a very fine version (spoiler alert) try here |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Noreen Date: 20 Jul 15 - 05:46 PM A very fine version indeed, thanks Ed. |
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Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point From: Vic Smith Date: 27 Jul 15 - 02:59 PM The next one is very easy indeed |
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