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BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????

GUEST,Mr Red (on behalf of a plastered Folkie) 17 May 15 - 12:06 PM
GUEST 17 May 15 - 12:43 PM
GUEST,Ed 17 May 15 - 12:58 PM
Jack Campin 17 May 15 - 12:59 PM
GUEST 17 May 15 - 02:01 PM
Rapparee 17 May 15 - 02:48 PM
GUEST 17 May 15 - 06:40 PM
Gurney 17 May 15 - 06:48 PM
GUEST,gillymor 17 May 15 - 08:18 PM
Rapparee 17 May 15 - 10:14 PM
Mr Red 18 May 15 - 05:34 AM
Jack Campin 18 May 15 - 05:53 AM
Thompson 18 May 15 - 02:14 PM
Mr Red 19 May 15 - 02:55 AM

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Subject: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: GUEST,Mr Red (on behalf of a plastered Folkie)
Date: 17 May 15 - 12:06 PM

The Folkie has an arm in plaster below the elbow.
And a brand new Limbo sleeve which is basically a plastic bag with an elasticated cuff.
Now the problemo.
How, singlehandedly, do you expand the cuff? Especially so as not to put pressure on the plaster cast and hence the break. During fitting that is.

Fist 4 inches plus, unexpanded elastic aperture 1¾.

Mr Red is thinking this through but has no solution today.
Maybe tomorrow. But if there was a device to open the cuff enough to get a fist (and some to spare) through without touching the sides that could be purchased it might be quicker.

Over to the combined intellect of the 'Cat:

TIA

(no wise cracks, by request, ho ho ho)


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Subject: RE: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 15 - 12:43 PM

I take it you want to keep the cast dry so the castee can take a shower.

Assuming the cast is dry, why be worried about a plastic sock putting pressure on the break?


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Subject: RE: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 17 May 15 - 12:58 PM

Now here's a thing.

Why don't you ask the experts. The people who fitted it?

Mudcat is hardly going to provide you with the best information in the world, is it?

Pillock


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Subject: RE: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: Jack Campin
Date: 17 May 15 - 12:59 PM

Get somebody else to help put it on?

My wife has a pin through her toe at the moment, with a tab on the end making it look like the opener key for a tin of Spam. She was told if she needs to take a shower all over, put two binbags on her foot and tape them in place one inside the other.


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Subject: RE: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 15 - 02:01 PM

I had pins in my thumb and a correspondingly large plaster.When I showered I just made sure I kept my hand out of it. Technique didn't work though when I got swept off my feet by a freak wave on our local beach. Took some explaining at the fracture clinic!


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Subject: RE: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 May 15 - 02:48 PM

Pull a plastic trash bag up over the shoulder and tape or use a rubber band to hold it in place over the shoulder. Cut off the end of the trash bag by the hand. This should keep out water well enough for a shower. With practice it can be done by someone alone (I know).


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Subject: RE: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 15 - 06:40 PM

The fracture should heal in about 2 or 3 months.

What's the problem, who really needs to shower more than twice a year ?

a wet flannel round the privates, and bob's yer uncle.


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Subject: RE: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: Gurney
Date: 17 May 15 - 06:48 PM

Pallet wrap. This is a larger version of Gladwrap, a slightly self-adhesive plastic sheet. Works quite well, but you can't put it round your arm one-handed. The roll is heavy.


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Subject: RE: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 17 May 15 - 08:18 PM

Not quite sure what the problem is but adhesive-backed velcro might be the solution.


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Subject: RE: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 May 15 - 10:14 PM

Oh, yeah -- keep the cut-up trash bag and reuse it whenever you're going to shower. With care you can use it for years. With cutouts for the head and arms a large trash bag can make an emergency rain coat, but not a good one.


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Subject: RE: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 May 15 - 05:34 AM

The Folkie is rigidly independant, and lives alone.
I can devize and make something to help, to get it on. But getting it off is a problem. The problem is pain. I can envisage something to do both on and off, but can't make it. The manufacturers haven't responded yet.
Ever had a broken wrist? Me neither. Don't want one, but if you have I am sure you will understand the "one-handed, pain in the other" problem. The cast is there to restrict movement, not prevent it, any movement results in pain.
Shoe laces? next-door neighbour. Sorted.
Undressed? Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......
The question will be asked on Tuesday when I drive the person to hospital, and I am sure the doctor will suggest a helper, and in the UK that may come as part of (early) treatment. This is on the table, but......... independance!!
Stubborn-ness I understand. And invention is my forte. The two are at opposite ends of this spectrum.
It is too soon for a lighter fibre-glass type cast.


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Subject: RE: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: Jack Campin
Date: 18 May 15 - 05:53 AM

Turn a chair upside down, fit four bulldog clips to the edge of the Limbo, put strong rubber bands through the handles of the bulldog clips and stretch them over the bottom of each chairleg? That will hold the end open in a square which might be big enough to get an arm in and out.

A more custom solution would be to use more clips and a stand-mounted quilting frame.

round frame

Rectangular ones are more common but I think round would be better for this.


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Subject: RE: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: Thompson
Date: 18 May 15 - 02:14 PM

Limbo has a video - hope that helps. Get better soon, folkie!


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Subject: RE: BS: how to fit waterproof over plaster????
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 May 15 - 02:55 AM

we know the wheeze of turning the seal inside out.
the video shows a person with no pain and a resin cast.
The Folkie feels the pain with any movement of the cast. And the cast is plaster, now over-laid with resin after the swelling went down. They plaster it top-side only these days, with just dry bandage underneath, if possible. Plaster allows better conformity and some lateral restraint in the initial phase.

this one even defaults to a "helper" with three hands! and is not the limbo product. The seal has a larger ring which would be easier in terms of pressure but more sensitive to sharp edges.

And quilting frames and such might do for getting it on, but getting it off - not. Any alternative process results in pressure and movement of the cast. And PAIN. I have the nub of a design in my head that I can make from cane doweling and plywood. In a demo using my fingers it works "on", but off needs a more sophisticated design. One that would need more equipment and thought and time. A flawed first attempt would kill the idea in the Folkie's head, I am sure. Accompanied with some PAIN.

Given enough facilities, I would enjoy the design/manufacture/modify/iterations but the Folkie? No. Only the final result, if allowed to get that far. I have a better concept, but the detail requires iteration, and equipment I could only dream of.

This thread was started in case others have found/made a gizmo already. And the Festival season is upon us.


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