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BS: the argument clinic:complaints
| Jack the Sailor | 22 Mar 14 - 06:35 PM | |
| Jack the Sailor | 22 Mar 14 - 06:47 PM | |
| Jack the Sailor | 22 Mar 14 - 10:52 PM | |
| GUEST,Musket | 23 Mar 14 - 04:04 AM | |
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Subject: BS: the argument clinic:complaints From: Jack the Sailor Date: 22 Mar 14 - 06:35 PM Subject: RE: BS: Cosmos From: GUEST,BrendanB - PM Date: 22 Mar 14 - 06:01 PM I am as irritated/frustrated/gobsmacked as any rational person by people like pete from the seven stars link (lack of capitals a courtesy to him). I also find other posters tedious/irritating or quite simply irredeemably stupid but I do not feel the need to hurl abuse at them. In his post at 20 March 14 02.01 Steve Shaw claims not to complain even though that whole post reads like a complaint. I really want to respect Musket (I warm to what I perceive to be his views) but to this uninformed outsider his posts too often read like a hostage to fortune. I would love to read a forensic demolition of akenaton's and K of H's posts but it does not seem to have happened so far. I repeat, in the field addressed by this thread I am relatively uninformed ( However, in relation to pete the mere fact that my mind is open to rational argument makes me a great deal more informed than him). I know that one prolific poster on this and other threads relating to science/evolution/atheism will be desperate to tell me to contribute to the debate or butt out (and anyway whatever I say he knows more and better than me. This will be implied rather than explicitly stated) who the hell am I to pontificate etc. etc. etc. I am a learner, and an observer - and now a commentator. I used to contribute regularly to below the line posts before I tired of the abuse and pointless acrimony but having had a rest I can cope with a bit of abuse. (SrS please take note, most grown ups can handle foul mouthed -or even non foul mouthed - insults). My view, and that is all it is, is that as a courtesy to the OP contributors to a thread should address the topic of the thread and not use it to pursue their own agendas. Attack the stated views, not the person. If they are truly obnoxious demonstrate it by reference to their postings, convincingly. You live in the same world as them and the apparent desire of some posters to vomit hatred all over a thread - even if they then claim they are above such behaviour - contributes nothing to civilised debate. I recall one of my first posts as a callow newbie receiving what I considered to be a vituperative response from JtS. In fact, he showed me not to look for courtesy on Mudcat. An irony I feel. I have no axe to grind, I come to Mudcat to be informed, challenged, even outraged. But sadly the best stuff is now all above the line and intelligent debate below the line has given way to an awful lot of egoistic posturing and a desperate need to be seen to be right. Maybe it is time to close the BS section - float it off as a forum for hardline theorists and hobby-horse jockeys. I trust I have said enough to mildly irritate almost everyone, now you know what it feels like. |
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Subject: RE: BS: the argument clinic:complaints From: Jack the Sailor Date: 22 Mar 14 - 06:47 PM I am sorry BrendanB. I truly am. I have since had a bit of an epiphany. I was introduced to the Mudcat the same way. I was called a "Horse's Patoot." by an esteemed member. I was treating others as I was treated. But when Max's rule change sunk in to my admittedly thick skull. I saw a vision of how good this place could be and I tried to do something. I can honestly say that I have been vilified much more for that than for any of the name calling I have done. I'd like to see all the complaints about other members, including SRS, and me moved here. If someone says something you don't like, copy it, paste it and HAVE AT THEM!! Give us a chance to "vent" as musket likes to call it in our own little MMA octagon of righteous indignation! How about it everyone? What's the worst than can happen? This thread thread going away is the worst that can happen. I'll bet some of you can have a lot of fun with this and say some funny things. that's why I named it after a Monty Python skit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: the argument clinic:complaints From: Jack the Sailor Date: 22 Mar 14 - 10:52 PM From: Joe Offer - PM Date: 22 Mar 14 - 09:33 PM Jack, you said you were leaving Mudcat. What happened? I think all this shit has been discussed to death long ago. There are probably two Mudcatters who see any value in "creationism." Why not talk with them privately? -Joe- Joe half of the bad behavior on this forum stems from your bad example. WHY DON'T YOU SHOW ME THE COMMON COURTESY OF READING THE FIRST POST ON THAT THREAD? WHY DON'T YOU READ AT LEAST THE TITLE OF THE THREAD WHEN I said I MIGHT be leaving? If you are just going to be a jerk and whine like a STUCK PIG without having bothered to read what I said, how God's green Earth are you qualified to moderate here? Give it up! Stop deleting and combining threads you are not bothering to read! It only makes you seem arbitrary and lazy and confuses people looking for a rational pattern. It makes it bad for Max and for the other moderators. It makes it hard for anyone who wants to keep this place civil. For your information there are at least ten people who talk about creationism here. pete and the people who argue against him. Use your bloody head!! If Nobody but two people wanted to talk about it. It would go away. It hasn't has it. If they have a thread to talk about it. Which theSnail asked for they might just discuss it there on that thread and leave the rest of the flipping forum alone. I want to talk about Cosmos. I want this place to be civil and peaceful. If you cared about this place as much as you pretend to, you would show some courtesy and stop trying to stir things up. Read the first post of that thread and read the second post of this one. If you want to stir up shit. I have your shit right here. but not on that thread. You sniveling back channel bully. Gosh you are right Musket! Venting is good! Goodbye again all in case I cannot get back in. |
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Subject: RE: BS: the argument clinic:complaints From: GUEST,Musket Date: 23 Mar 14 - 04:04 AM Glad to be of service I find it preferable to shouting at the dog anyway. I have also worked out that some people love to be offended. Each time Keith bites, I smile. Each time you remind me of the rules for the second time, I try going for the hat trick. That said, I shouldn't really be giving this thread oxygen. |
