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Subject: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Jack the Sailor Date: 29 Jan 14 - 01:32 PM Satan statue in Oklahoma I like the idea of equal time for all. But the statue seems way to complex for public display. How about just another set of tablets with the commandments Xed out? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 29 Jan 14 - 01:43 PM He looks rather sweet, like a goat version of Father Christmas. It's the old quotation, "I don't agree at all with your beliefs but I'll defend to the death your right to express them." Satanist inmates of HM Prisons now have the right to keep Satanic paraphenalia in their cells and to hold group worship sessions. You could have 'The Alternative Commandments' set up. Thou shalt commit adultery, Thou shalt covet thy neighbour's ass etc. (if thy neighbour has an attractive ass, mine is far too fat.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 29 Jan 14 - 01:44 PM Sorry, there's an 'r' in paraphernalia! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: GUEST Date: 29 Jan 14 - 02:38 PM No offence, but there's two. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 29 Jan 14 - 02:42 PM Hee hee, I know. I meant a second one which I forgot to put in. It looks so daft spelt paraphernalia, but that's the correct way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Don Firth Date: 29 Jan 14 - 02:55 PM Billy Goat Gruff? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Joe_F Date: 29 Jan 14 - 02:59 PM "A person who has for untold centuries maintained the imposing position of spiritual head of four-fifths of the human race, and political head of the whole of it, must be granted the possession of executive abilites of the loftiest order. In his large presence the other popes & politicians shrink to midgets for the microscope. He hasn't a single salaried helper; The Opposition employs a million." -- Mark Twain |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 29 Jan 14 - 03:00 PM Why is Satan represented by a goat of all things? Goats are quite nice, if a bit smelly, and they do fart almost continually, but I don't hold that against them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Jack the Sailor Date: 29 Jan 14 - 03:18 PM That doesn't look like any goat that I have ever seen. Maybe it is because the stature is horny? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Joe Offer Date: 29 Jan 14 - 03:22 PM Seems to me that lots of cathedrals have statues of Satan - not in prominent locations, though. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 29 Jan 14 - 03:51 PM I think the depiction as a goat derives from the Pagan god Pan. There is no biblical justification. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Don Firth Date: 29 Jan 14 - 04:08 PM Actually, as I recall, the Bible says something about Lucifer being the most beautiful of the angels before his fall. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Bill D Date: 29 Jan 14 - 05:34 PM I suppose if Santa has rights, so should his |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: gnu Date: 29 Jan 14 - 06:49 PM Bill D... hahahahahaa! "Goats are quite nice, if a bit smelly, and they do fart almost continually," Well there ya goat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Joe Offer Date: 29 Jan 14 - 07:23 PM "Lucifer" means "light-bearer" or "morning star." Lucifer and his colleagues are often depicted as good-lookin' devils. Interestingly, the seraphim, the highest rank of angels, ad often described as horrible to behold. So, goes to show you that looks aren't everything. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: GUEST Date: 29 Jan 14 - 07:31 PM "Goats are quite nice, if a bit smelly, and they do fart almost continually, but I don't hold that against them." I have someone who says that about me. Water off a duck's back! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: kendall Date: 29 Jan 14 - 08:14 PM It doesn't matter, and it doesn't matter that it doesn't matter. It's all bogus. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Joe Offer Date: 29 Jan 14 - 08:53 PM It's folklore, Kendall, and it can be very interesting. You, the consummate storyteller, should appreciate that. There are a lot of very colorful and fascinating stories connected to the Lore of Satan. If you can ignore the literalists who get all hung up on this religious stuff, you might be able to see the wonderful folklore behind it all. This page has a bit about the association between devils and goats, but I prefer to think of Satan as a good-lookin' devil, such as myself...and you, too, Kendall. Do you think those women think of Jesus when they stroke your black leather jacket? -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Don Firth Date: 29 Jan 14 - 10:25 PM Gounod's opera, "Faust." Faust is an elderly philosopher who finds himself longing for his youth and wishing he'd lived a bit instead of burying himself in books. He calls upon Satan, who, much to his surprise, suddenly appears, a tall, handsome gentleman, dressed in doublet and hose and a gold hilted sword, and wearing a long, flowing cloak lined in red. Mephistopheles, one of the personas of Satan. "You rang?" he asks the startled old philosopher. Mephistopheles tells Faust that he can restore his youth and passion, and to bait the hook, he shows him a vision of the young and lovely Marguerita. "She's all yours. Just sign here. . . ." Next scene, the tall, dark man and the young and handsome young Faust appear at a village festival where Faust meets the young, innocent Marguerita. . . . Mephistopheles smiles. He anticipates gathering in two souls for the price of one. It's one--um--hell of a story, along with some really beautiful music and singing. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Ebbie Date: 29 Jan 14 - 10:56 PM I don't quite understand. According to the Bible story, Satan is #2. So why would anyone worship the one who lost? :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Jack the Sailor Date: 29 Jan 14 - 11:30 PM There are still Patriots fans and they lost to Denver. :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Joe Offer Date: 29 Jan 14 - 11:47 PM I told you before you asked, Ebbie - Satan may be #2, but he's a good-lookin' devil, like me.... -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 30 Jan 14 - 01:59 AM Sometimes looks great with a well turned ankle, too. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Richard Bridge Date: 30 Jan 14 - 03:51 AM Maybe Satan got what he really wanted all along. We have a rough idea who wrote the bible. How is the devil depicted in other religions? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 30 Jan 14 - 05:22 AM Have just asked my Muslim husband. There's a tradition (not in the Koran) that Iblis or Shaitan is a black man (!) with reddened eyes and a fierce expression, wearing a black robe and having a long beard and long dreadlocks. On further interrogation, he says the Devil isn't an African black man but more Arab-looking. Sounds like Osama Bin Laden to me. On their Hadj, Muslims stone the Devil as part of the pilgrimage. It's merely a pillar of rock, much bashed-about I should think. But they don't go in for pictorial representations. Generally they're forbidden, especially of Muhammed. I like the idea of a handsome devil. Quite exciting. But a goat? Nah. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: gnu Date: 30 Jan 14 - 06:17 AM Ebbie... good one! GO BRONOS! GO PATS... NEXT YEAR! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Rapparee Date: 30 Jan 14 - 11:32 AM New Orleans has the Saints. Bostons has a mythical football team called the "Patriots" and a basketball team with a mispronounced name. Arizona State has the Sun Devils. The public high school in my home town has the Blue Devils. Notre Dame has the Fighting Irish. Chicago has the Cubs. If the Saints played the Sun Devils who would win? I mean, we know that the Cubs would lose to whoever they played in any sport, but what about a match-up between the Brewers and the Fighting Irish? Or the Cardinals and the Seahawks? Why don't we have Saints meet the Flames? I don't know of any sports teams called "The Goats" or "The Beelzebubs" or "The Lucifers." Imagine the excitement if "The Lucifers" or "The Satanic Minions" played "The Angels" or "The Padres." Equal time for the Other Side, I say!!! (It seems to be ahead anyway.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: Jack the Sailor Date: 30 Jan 14 - 12:54 PM Duke Blue Devils New Jersey Devils Those are some handsome teams. There weren't any Saints on Bourbon St. the last time I was there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: GUEST,Jack Sprocket Date: 30 Jan 14 - 06:24 PM As an old Irishman once said to me, isn't the Divil one of God's poor creatures like the rest of us? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: GUEST,Musket Date: 31 Jan 14 - 07:11 AM I used to have a goat. "Horny devil" would be an apt description. He once ate his way through a wooden fence, ate an electric fence wire and had a jolly time with some sheep in a field I rent out. He died by suffocating eating a discarded carrier bag sadly. All those films about Jesus, mountains etc and all it takes is lowlife scum who can't take their litter home. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Equal Rights for Satan From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 31 Jan 14 - 10:05 AM I got very friendly with 2 goats in Senegal. I called them Monty and Millie. Monty was Millie's son, but he was quite happy incessantly committing incest. They ate absolutely anything, so I can see that your goat would find a plastic carrier bag tasty. At night they were shut in a padlocked shed, as the hungry Senegalese wouldn't hesitate to go in for a bit of goat-rustling. The owner of this lodging asked me how I knew the goats' names. I replied that they'd told me themselves. Poor lady, she actually believed me! (Africans can be quite credulous) They never stopped farting. But they weren't in the least devilish, just rather sweet. The lady ate Monty not long afterwards. Ah well... |
