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BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?

Jack the Sailor 23 Jan 14 - 04:24 PM
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Bert 23 Jan 14 - 08:55 PM
Rapparee 23 Jan 14 - 08:57 PM
GUEST,iain 24 Jan 14 - 03:13 AM
Nigel Parsons 24 Jan 14 - 03:20 AM
GUEST,Eliza 24 Jan 14 - 04:01 AM
gnu 24 Jan 14 - 07:58 AM
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Jack the Sailor 24 Jan 14 - 08:26 AM
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Subject: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 04:24 PM

Blame Canada


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 06:38 PM

You are all DOOMED, DOOMED I say......abandon the Sceptered Isle immediately.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Bert
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 08:55 PM

The rats have gone and we the crew
leave her Johnny leave her
I think it's time that we left too
It's time for us to leave her.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 08:57 PM

Blame Canada.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: GUEST,iain
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 03:13 AM

There should be a few fat ones ideal for a fricassee then. Rather more appetising than Baldric's creations!


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 03:20 AM

What's the problem?

Presumably "Cannibal Rats" are only a danger to other rats.

(From Miriam-Webster dictionary)
can·ni·bal noun \ˈka-nə-bəl\ : a person who eats the flesh of human beings or an animal that eats its own kind


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 04:01 AM

But logically, those rats couldn't go on and on eating eachother. The amount of protein on board is finite, no matter how often they reproduce. It's like a snake eating its own tail. There must be some other kind of food on the ship, perhaps supplies for the crew. I suppose the poor creatures may be able to drink rain. I feel very sorry for them. Maybe the ship will be grounded somewhere so that they can get off and onto dry land. And surely, in these days of global insecurity and terrorism. most countries survey constantly the seas and oceans. Any 'unidentified floating mass' would be flown over and scrutinised thoroughly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: gnu
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 07:58 AM

Maybe they went green and are solar powered.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Will Fly
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 08:04 AM

A ghost ship and cannibal rats, eh? Perhaps the Briton they're going to is Johnny Depp.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 08:26 AM

Johnny Depp is from Florida.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 09:07 AM

Ahhh from 'the colonies' :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 09:53 AM

From today's Guardian: Don't worry – a ghost ship crewed by cannibal rats probably isn't about to hit the British Isles


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 09:53 AM

this all suggests that the ship had made it two-thirds of the way across the Atlantic and was headed east.

A poorly written article, at best.

suggests that the ship had made it two-thirds of the way across the Atlantic

"Had made it" implies a purposeful goal, at least partly successful, and "was headed east" implies that the vessel is under power and steerage. It's merely drifting with wind and current.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 10:23 AM

British coast guard says no eidence.

I think the story says more about Salon.com sensationalism than anything else.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Will Fly
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 10:24 AM

Johnny Depp is from Florida.

Whoops - meant Cap'n Jack Sparrow...


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 11:13 AM

I think that cannibalism among rats should be encouraged


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 11:26 AM

"I think that cannibalism among rats should be encouraged "

Yes. They should be sprayed with BBQ sauce as they enter their dens.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 01:39 PM

Perhaps Canada should ship excess coywolves to Britain for rat control if the "ghost ship" gets there.

Saw the "Nature" special on public television. Toronto has about 2000 that have come to the city, and one was caught in Central Park, NYC, no they are there too.
In addition to DNA, this cross differs from the coyote in having a wider head and shorter ears, slightly larger size. and a longer bushy tail.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 01:47 PM

So its coywolves for the rats, long guns for the coywolves, hand guns for the long guns, assault rifles for the handguns then they'll be just like us? :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: gnu
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 01:53 PM

Q... them there would be yer Eastern Brush Wolves or a similar type. We got em. I blame the sheep. Lookin all tastey n such eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Van
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 07:24 PM

When they see Cameron and Clegg they'll soon change course!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 09:04 PM

Gnu, if it comes around again, look at the Nature special on the coywolf. They are a cross that has taken up much of the eastern territory once occupied by wolves (the pure eastern wolf has been exterminated. In fact this hybrid has become the dominant form in much of the northeast.

"Brush wolf" is a local name, I think first applied when the critter was considered an eastern type of coyote.

Attractive animals! see www.adirondackwildlife.org/Coywolf.html. Not much information, but I haven't looked up other references.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 09:42 PM

And Coyote is the personification of Murphy's Law.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 10:13 PM

By Hamish Maclaren, Sailor with Banjo, pp. 23-25, © 1930
Adapted for singing by Charlie Ipcar in 1999/2012
Tune adapted from: Blow the Candle Out

The Rodent Mariners

Em----------Bm----Em---G
We are the rodent ma-ri-ners,
Bm/Em-----Bm
As nobody needs be told,
-------------Em-----Bm----------Em--------G
For there's no mis-taking our nau-ti-cal airs,
Bm/Em-----Bm-----Em
Our roving eyes so bold;
Em---------------Bm----------G--------Bm
There's never a ship leaves English ground,
-------Em---------------------Bm
From Liverpool Docks to Plymouth Sound,
-----Em----Bm-----Em-------G
For Frisco Bay or Bombay bound,
----------------Bm-------------Em
But we have free run of her hold!

Chorus:

With a churr churr churr,
And a quee quee quee,
'Tis the rodent mariner
Who is Lord of the Sea!

We march aboard in companies,
All in the dead of night,
Over the hawser from the quay
In the shadow of the watch lamplight;
Each roving rat his ship will choose,
From nose to nose we pass the news,
Of cargoes, destinations, crews,
And none can us affright. (CHO)


We'll live like kings once we set sail,
Each vessel leaving land,
A wandering larder which entails
A feast for every hand;
Maize, apples, salmon, barley, rice,
Nutmegs, olives, South Sea spice,
Meats and India merchandise,
And all at our command! (CHO)

We know the ports of all the world
All warehouses, all quays,
All islets, coral-ringed and pearled,
The Blue Hesperides;
And men may live and men may die,
And men may blow great fleets sky-high –
But rats alone will hold for aye
The Freedom of the Seas! (CHO)

When we are old and weather-beat,
Too old to sail about,
In some rum shop we will stop
Till eight bells call us out;
It's there we'll raise our glasses high
And spin our yarns till the taps run dry;
But we'll make sure before we die
To send our sons to sea!


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 25 Jan 14 - 04:20 AM

George Osborne and Ian Duncan Smith have blamed this firmly on The Labour Party and have suggested a further cut in benefits for the poorest people will be the best way forward.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 25 Jan 14 - 04:23 AM

My own suggestion is to have a civic reception headed by Eric Pickles, aka Mr Creosote aka Jabba the Hut and he can eat them all before he explodes.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jan 14 - 03:38 AM

Eric pickels IS Mr Creosote!


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: bubblyrat
Date: 26 Jan 14 - 08:26 AM

When I was in the Royal Navy ,there was an item in "Navy News" about a small vessel,ie minesweeper or frigate ,which intercepted a cargo container which had been washed overboard from a container ship in the North Sea . They were ordered to sink it ,as it was a "hazard to navigation" (the container !) . So they sank it by gunfire (Bofors 40/60 mounting ), and down it went (eventually) along with its contents (several million cigarettes !) . The point is this ; IF a small container poses a "hazard to navigation " ,then what about a bloody great big ship drifting about ?? Are we supposed to believe that this thing has drifted around,unsighted,for a whole year ?? Tell it to the Marines !!


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Jan 14 - 10:50 AM

No doubt the ship, if it exists, is being tracked by satellite "eye."


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 27 Jan 14 - 09:27 AM

What Q says. If Google Earth(TM) can pick out car number plates...Where's a drone when you need one? I thought all modern ships carry transponder type GPS systems so owners can track them. Whoever carried its insurance would want to track it in case it hit another vessel or oil rig and generated a claim.

RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Jan 14 - 10:48 AM

RtS, Having read the article, I do not believe there is an an insurer and it is unlikely that the transponder was powered up as it was being towed away for scrap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 27 Jan 14 - 12:03 PM

It must still be worth quite a bit as scrap. You'd think salvage firms would be chasing it, since, as it's still afloat, it would be relatively easy to tow it away (with a stronger cable this time!). A lot easier than salvage of sunken wrecks from the bottom of the sea. I'm still worried about those poor little rats, trapped on the thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Jan 14 - 01:31 PM

Cannibal rats. England already has a large population. a few more makes no difference. Estimates are that there are more rats than people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: olddude
Date: 27 Jan 14 - 06:35 PM

I think they said Scotland ... what a gift that is huh. why don't they sink the thing


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Subject: RE: BS: Ghost ship, cannibal rats, to Briton?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Jan 14 - 06:56 PM

Scots have eradicated rats from some islands important to bird populations, but the 'ghost ship' rats would find friendly faces in Glasgow and Edinburgh.


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