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Subject: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Songwronger Date: 07 Jan 14 - 06:55 PM OK, we all know that it was "the website" that screwed up Obamacare. It's all about the website. Period. One-sixth of the U.S. economy (medical) is now royally screwed because of the website. OK. Understood. So what can Obama do now? He's TRIED to exempt people from Obamacare, but it seems that the exemptions have just made things worse. Now the insurance companies will get even less money than they need to operate under Obamacare. It's beginning to look as if Obama will have no choice but to bail out the insurance companies. I know he hates to reach into our bank accounts and give that money to Blue Cross and the others, but he doesn't seem to have much choice. That damn website. I bet the Republicans back him on this one. Those damn fascists. I bet we get "bipartisan" support to save the health industry. And premiums will have to go up, of course. All because some damn programmer screwed things up. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/12/22/krauthammer-insurance-companies-ruined-obamacare-will-need-bailout-ne Just search "Insurance companies bailout" for reportage of your choice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 07 Jan 14 - 07:22 PM Exactly how is this a separate topic than "Obama's War on the Middle class?" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Greg F. Date: 07 Jan 14 - 08:11 PM Oh, Jaysus, another load of manure from ShitWringer. Newsbusters? Sounds more like factbusters. I'd rather go with Ghostbusters, myself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Don Firth Date: 07 Jan 14 - 09:06 PM YAWN. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jan 14 - 02:02 AM That very thought was brought up in the 'Who signed up for Obamacare?', thread. However I think the more politically correct masked version is being called 'subsidies'....This is what will happen...if they change the system, and the insurance companies give weigh, they will be first paid off in a huge sum...because Healthcare was NEVER the goal. Now, you've probably following the other thread, so Don will vociferously squawk..say shit like "It was a step in the right direction"..and blozoo guff guff and shit like that...but you just watch. If he wanted to fuck the insurance companies and go straight for government healthcare, he would have already done it when the bill was drafted....by his closest mobsters AND the Insurance Corporate Cronies. Reminds me of the Solar cronies who got their kickbacks...and "Jeff Immelt" head of General Electric and NBC and MSNBC....who was given $500 Billion and named 'Jobs Czar' to create jobs... General Electric has closed more than 31 plants since 2008 and let go of more than 19,000 employees....and Good Ol' crony payback Jeff took the money and used it to create jobs for his corporation in CHINA!! (He just got mixed up as to where he was supposed to create the jobs)... Between the Solar cronies and Jeff, there would have been enough money to fully subsidize...umm...how many hospitals???...and not raise taxes OR pay off insurance company cronies??...OVER a trillion bucks! Just like before, he just needed a 'cover story'....dupes like the 'so-called liberals' just haven't caught on yet...they're still intoxicated on the rhetorical stroke machine!!..some actually believe it!..some don't care..as long as it brings down the system. Anything else? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Songwronger Date: 08 Jan 14 - 06:24 PM Coffman's legislation, the No Bailouts for Insurance Industry Act of 2014, would amend the Affordable Care Act to repeal Section 1341, the "reinsurance" fund, and Section 1342, the "risk corridor" provision. Together, both could provide for a massive taxpayer bailout to cover the losses of a large insurance company. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/08/1268058/-Coffman-insurance-industry-bailout-bill-could-lead-toward-single-payer# That's from the Daily Kos, a liberal rag. The conservative rags are pushing a story about Republican senator Rubio backing the same kind of legislation. I wonder how Obama overlooked that bailout provision? Must be because he's inexperienced. He's only had six years in the job now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Don Firth Date: 08 Jan 14 - 07:33 PM Obama was a law professor for a couple of years and was editor of the Harvard Law Journal. He's inexperienced!?? What are you smoking, Songwronger? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Songwronger Date: 08 Jan 14 - 11:08 PM Obama never edited anything but a line of coke in college. He's a made-up individual. One of his jobs is to destroy health care in America and to send people like you, Firth, to the death panels. Good luck with that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jan 14 - 11:27 PM So? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jan 14 - 12:08 AM Well, Songwronger, of course if you buy the story that he was born in Kenya and educated in a village school. But Harvard University tells a somewhat different story. Do I believe you (Yuk yuk har de har har!!) or Harvard University? I'll take my chances with those "death panels", thank you (I thought "death panels" were Sarah Palin's schtick). Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Jan 14 - 01:20 AM Naw...only when the cost of keeping you alive cuts into the profit margin of those insurance cronies, that you seem to like. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jan 14 - 01:38 AM Myths don't worry me. If you prefer to believe that, then YOU do the worrying. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Jan 14 - 04:20 AM Oh yeah, I remember...you're not on Obamacare..but you do wish people were as lame as you! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Richard Bridge Date: 09 Jan 14 - 04:34 AM "Obamacare" was a matter of doing the possible rather than seeking the impossible and wholly failing. It was a sensible step in the right direction - although the only proposal that came close to "right" was by Kucinich. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Jan 14 - 09:47 AM OK, we all know that it was "the website" that screwed up Obamacare. It's all about the website. Period. One-sixth of the U.S. economy (medical) is now royally screwed because of the website. OK. Understood. Okay, we all know that Songwronger is one sour S.O.B. who has no interest in music, he's just here to slum and stir up arguments. Get. A. Life. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jan 14 - 01:30 PM Goofballupagus, you just demonstrated that you don't know what the hell the Affordable Care Act is all about. Yes, my wife and I have health insurance. That insurance—as is—conforms to the stipulations of the ACA, so we don't have to do anything. We're good as we are. The only people who are having problems are people whe do not have health insurance, and they are required to get it, much the same way that you can't drive an automobile unless you are properly insured for liability. And those who already have health insurance, but it does not offer adequate coverage—and more often than not, were NOT AWARE that it is inadequate. Something any reasonable person would like to be informed of. Only really schtoopuhd people criticize things they don't understand. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Songwronger Date: 09 Jan 14 - 10:39 PM So you view Mudcat as a "slum" Silly River? Aren't you a moderator here? Do you view yourself as a slumlord then? You're not too bright, are you? And anyone who claims Obama's NOT serving the financial elite because he's an inexperienced fuckup is just a racist. I learned that one from Firth and some others here. This bailout decision must be a hard one for Obama. On the one hand he can bring in government non-healthcare in a few years if he withholds the bailout, thus trashing the private insurance companies and killing millions of under-insured in the process. But on the other hand, the insurance companies wrote the Obamacare law so that they get bailouts (taxpayer money) if someone doesn't dot an i somewhere. So what's an America-hating narcissist to do? Millions of deaths to his name would be a hell of an ego stroke, but he swore to protect those pesky bankers. I'd say it's a tossup on the bailout. He may or may not "allow" it by diktat, but I hope congress overrules him on this one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Jan 14 - 10:53 PM Awwwwwwwww..What a shame...Gosh, how could have that happened?? Just one of THOSE unforeseen random quirks!..... Let Don explain it.....he's keeping it a well guarded secret..... Eagerly on pins and needles!!.... (Oh Goodie!!... Papa is going to tell us a sto-wee!!) GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Jan 14 - 12:10 AM Ummm.....is it going to end with the insurance companies getting a huge pay-off..and going away, so we can have Donny's singo payeh pwan...? ...and a renewed need for high-tech ID's???....Gosh, Pops!....What a surprise gwate ting to come out of dis!!..Oh, goodie goodie goodie!!! Pwetty smot peopo!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Jan 14 - 02:22 AM Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: GUEST,Troubadour Date: 10 Jan 14 - 08:01 PM "Naw...only when the cost of keeping you alive cuts into the profit margin of those insurance cronies, that you seem to like." I thought the insurance Companies needeed a bailout (according to you). Do try for some vestige of consistency! You ought to be able to stick to the OP premise, don'cha think? Your schizophrenic paranoia is showing again! Maybe if you kept up to date with your meds.........? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Jan 14 - 10:41 PM Troubadour, You're trying too hard..and in doing so you're not making any sense....or maybe you lost the context...who knows? The insurance companies, CAN get a bailout...but really, did it have to be necessary?...and as far as priorities, I think the people might need a bailout, for their health...after all, the insurance companies helped write the bill, favoring the insurance companies!...The politicians involved, seemed to have mixed messages..and the pathetic part, is that a lot of sorry duped victims still haven't figured it out yet...and are still chanting the misinformation, as if they are still believing it, and/or that everybody else is still in the dark about it. It is what it is...but what it isn't, is what the people were promised that it was supposed to be....AFFORDABLE!!...Rates up, Deductibles up, lost policies, lost doctor/patient relationships...IF they even get through to get on a 'plan'....and that has been at issue, as well. Let's not confuse the alleged 'plan', with the hype versus the reality. It's just NOT lining up. Don keeps repeating that it is 'a step in the right direction'...Only someone who cannot distinguish reality from a wishful daydream of an agenda that was/is falsely represented. If you want, you make sense of it.....it still won't change the reality of what really is. Don't take it personally....it's just the futility of trying to find truth, believing in politicians. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 11 Jan 14 - 12:10 PM Bailout? Banks and other institutions have moved in, so more competitors for your insurance dollar than ever. The Royal Bank of Canada, and the rest of the biggies in Canada, all have insurance branches now. AAA and affiliates have home insurance as well as auto and travel coverage. Wells Fargo and other U.S. banks have insurance services that act in cooperation with insurance companies, if they don't have a fully operational service themselves. Over a million Americans work in some way with insurance. If jobs are cut in the industry, the American economy would suffer a blow. The Health Act requires some revision to services and charges, but a bailout will not be needed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Bail Out Insuance Companies? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 11 Jan 14 - 12:51 PM So, would you call that an expansion of government, against the will of the people?...or just another Trojan Horse to fuck them over? GfS |
