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Subject: BS: Texas man kills molester From: Jack the Sailor Date: 02 Sep 13 - 04:27 PM Quite a story. reported by UK media |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: gnu Date: 02 Sep 13 - 04:38 PM BRAVO! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: Stilly River Sage Date: 02 Sep 13 - 06:14 PM The whole thing is a tragedy. It's entirely appropriate that the father not be charged in this case. That family will never feel safe again. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: JohnInKansas Date: 02 Sep 13 - 06:26 PM So far as is known, Texas is the only place where "He needed killin'" has been upheld as a valid defense in court, according to historical records. As reported, it would be difficult to disagree with the decision here. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: Rapparee Date: 02 Sep 13 - 11:13 PM You make a choice: get involved or let the bad stuff continue. I applaud the father -- he did what he had to do -- and I hope that the little girl and the family will eventually be okay. Just as this incident. You can get hurt or even killed helping others -- but you really should, you know. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: Dave the Gnome Date: 03 Sep 13 - 03:26 AM I have often said before that I do not feel taking another life is good - except where protecting yourself or your loved ones. This is a prime example of the latter. I doubt if any father would have acted differently. I am sure I would have done the same in similar circumstances but I thank heavens that it never arose and I hope it never will. Cheers DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 03 Sep 13 - 05:30 AM The poor father was obviously extremely distressed at the fact that the man was mortally injured, and tried his utmost to get urgent medical help. This was very noble of him under the circumstances, and clearly shows he'd acted purely out of instinct to protect his little girl. A terrible event, and I agree with Dave, one wouldn't want to condone taking the Law into ones own hands, but in such a case, one can only agree it was entirely understandable. It calls to mind the worrying cases here in UK when attacking a burglar in ones own house could result in charges being made for GBH against the resident. I believe they've modified this a bit now. I explained this to my husband and he was amazed. In Ivory Coast all the neighbours would come running and probably beat the burglar senseless. (Not a good idea, but they're very volatile over there.) He asked if the UK Police would prefer you to offer the thief a cup of tea and a slice of cake, then show him around to select more valuables for his swag bag. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: Little Hawk Date: 03 Sep 13 - 11:57 AM There was a lot of trauma for that little girl, allright. Getting raped. Seeing a savage fight. And...being then taken to a hospital to get examined for medical evidence by even more strangers...an experience that would also be pretty upsetting to her, I should think. However, it all became basically unavoidable due to the actions of one man: the rapist. And it is upon him that the responsibility rests...or would, if he was still alive. It doesn't necessarily take very long at all to beat an adult male to death. It can happen in as little as 1 or 2 seconds if you hit him hard enough in the right places...and you can do it while he's still standing. A single blow to the head or neck (or even the heart if you know how) can do it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: GUEST Date: 03 Sep 13 - 12:18 PM Ain't nothin' more or less than takin' out the trash. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 03 Sep 13 - 01:05 PM I'm sure everybody is thinking about that little girl, and also her brother who ran to get his father. Everyone concerned must be totally traumatised. And even the rapist's family must be going through agonies of bewilderment and shame. But it's quite true, a single blow can kill. It must have been sheer instinct to protect ones offspring. And I think anybody would have attacked the man, it's human nature. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: Stilly River Sage Date: 03 Sep 13 - 01:07 PM Henryetta I think you're reading more into this than need be. Consider the extreme strength individuals have been known to show when adrenalin is high - you may have heard a story of a tiny woman lifting a car off of her injured husband, etc - and consider the angry ferocity of the first blows to knock this intruder off of his child. I don't think we're reading about a prolonged beating at all, I think we're reading about the panicked and powerful act of an angry and distressed man. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: Jack the Sailor Date: 03 Sep 13 - 01:12 PM "Nobody gives a thought to the welfare of the little girl." Perhaps you would like to reconsider the above. Perhaps you would like to read the article more carefully? Real life violence is nothing like TV. The Sheriff said the perp was hit several times around the head and neck. The no safe way to immobilize another man with your fists. Hit him hard enough to knock him out and blood clots can form windpipes can be damaged, concussion can happen. Add that to the father desperately calling 911 and frantically directing EMS to the house and I would say that the father did all he could do to immediately stop the man and minimize the damage of the necessary force. The dad could not go back in time an undo the deed. What he did do is show compassion during the perp's last minutes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: Elmore Date: 03 Sep 13 - 01:20 PM I'm liberal, but not so liberal that I wouldn't have acted the same way under these circumstances. What choices did this guy have? He had to act quickly without intellectualizing the situation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: GUEST,CS Date: 03 Sep 13 - 01:34 PM I'm actually pretty sure the little girl will survive her rape-trauma somewhat better in the full knowledge that her father was there in her time of deepest need to defend and protect her. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: GUEST,Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 03 Sep 13 - 02:33 PM One positive thing to come out this is that the perp will never be able to do this again to anyone else's little girl. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 03 Sep 13 - 03:49 PM Years ago a similar event happened in Nova Scotia. A father at a campground was sleeping in a tent beside a second one where his daughter was asleep. His daughters cries roused him where he found her in a struggle with a pervert trying to rape her. The father put a severe beating on the man but did not kill him. The cop who was called ended up charging the father with using excessive force. A public outcry ensued and the charge was eventually dropped. If I remember correctly the cop was blacklisted in the community, and the pervert was put away as a "dangerous offender" . (IE: throw away the key) At the time as a father of young girls and a camping addict my empathy was with the father and under similar circumstances I would have acted the same! There are times when the "LAW" must use discretion or prove itself an ass! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: Stilly River Sage Date: 03 Sep 13 - 05:15 PM I think that for many people who live in peaceful places and haven't experienced war or other such trauma, the first time they experience a love so deep that they know this is someone they would kill to defend happens when a child is born. At least I know that was my experience, looking down at my newborn daughter. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: Rapparee Date: 03 Sep 13 - 06:32 PM I hope that the father is also getting counseling. Killing another is not a simple experience, even in war, and if you think otherwise you know nothing of it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: Jack the Sailor Date: 04 Sep 13 - 02:55 AM Good point Sandy. I don't know the case in Nova Scotia, I imagine that necessary force might hitting the perp until he is motionless on the ground, excessive force would be kicking him or continuing to do damage after that when there was a path of containment or retreat? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Texas man kills molester From: GUEST,Stim Date: 04 Sep 13 - 05:09 AM Not to end the fun, but this happened more than a year ago, in June, 2012,and we've already...well,discussed it. |
