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BS: Hudson Bay Question???

Bobert 18 Jun 13 - 05:10 PM
Rapparee 18 Jun 13 - 06:24 PM
GUEST 18 Jun 13 - 07:31 PM
Bobert 18 Jun 13 - 07:37 PM
Rapparee 18 Jun 13 - 07:38 PM
GUEST 18 Jun 13 - 08:12 PM
Bobert 18 Jun 13 - 08:38 PM
GUEST 18 Jun 13 - 09:13 PM
Bobert 18 Jun 13 - 09:33 PM
gnu 18 Jun 13 - 09:36 PM
Rapparee 18 Jun 13 - 09:39 PM
Rapparee 18 Jun 13 - 09:41 PM
Bobert 18 Jun 13 - 09:46 PM
Don Firth 18 Jun 13 - 11:48 PM
Ebbie 19 Jun 13 - 01:17 AM
Ed T 19 Jun 13 - 07:28 AM
Rapparee 19 Jun 13 - 08:09 AM
Q (Frank Staplin) 19 Jun 13 - 11:46 AM
Q (Frank Staplin) 19 Jun 13 - 12:55 PM
Bobert 19 Jun 13 - 01:01 PM
Backwoodsman 20 Jun 13 - 03:13 AM
GUEST,Don Wise 20 Jun 13 - 03:37 AM

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Subject: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 05:10 PM

Any of my northern neighbors know much about the Hudson Bay??? I know that the only time to go there would be in the summer but...

...what's there??? How do you get there??? Are there roads and cool things to see???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 06:24 PM

Bobert, what else do you want to know?


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 07:31 PM

http://www.jamesbayroad.com/


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 07:37 PM

Great sites, ya'll... I'm kinda digging this... How cold does it get at night in the middle of their short summer??? I couldn't find that...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 07:38 PM

Bobert, just so you know -- the Hudson River does not flow OUT of Hudson Bay, nor does it flow INTO Hudson Bay. So if you were thinking about sailing up the Hudson River to Hudson Bay it won't work.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 08:12 PM

If the flies don't get you, you'll be fine with a good jacket. It's dropped below freezing only a few times.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 08:38 PM

I'm intrigued... I love nature and no people... Seems that you go to any national park in the US and you get drunks, loud off-road vehicles and nothing that resembles peace...

I'd like to find some peace somewhere...

I mean, I live in rural North Carolina but there isn't that peace here... People always shooting their guns because they have some fucking constitutional right to ruin my peace...

I'm thinking seriously about a trip up there...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 09:13 PM

I know the feeling.

Read the following and pay close attention to what it says and how it gets said. The James Bay Road is in very tough country and unsafe to travel alone, even though it is paved. The other two roads aren't paved and that kind of road will eat up your tires.

http://www.jamesbayroad.com/travel/cautions.html

PS They ain't shitting you in that link.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 09:33 PM

Sounds like going to heaven GUEST... Now that I have been warned then I know that this is where one goes to get everyone else, other than the P-Vine, somewhere else...

Seems that the road is so little traveled that you could just pull off the side of the road with a pop-up camper (see other thread) and all would be well...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: gnu
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 09:36 PM

"How cold does it get at night in the middle of their short summer???" Not cold enough to kill "da flies". Buddy me son, if ye don't like flies, ye wants ta get a good fly jacket afore hand and get some OFF! cream (not bug spray).


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 09:39 PM

Try a visit out this way, Bobert. Lots and lots of places -- you just got to get away from the cities and the Interstates. Shucks, the Sawtooths or the Bitterroots or even whole chunks of Yellowstone will give you what you're looking for. Just remember, for both here and in Canada (and everywhere else) that the critters in them woods ain't tame.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 09:41 PM

But if you don't mess with them or their young, you're okay.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 09:46 PM

I love bugs... Only meat I eat... I catch 'um with this cheeze cloth stuff... About an hour and you gotta nice cookie's worth of bugs...

No, I know they look like bitin' into but don't do it... Take 'um home and you first stick 'um in the freezer... That way you making sure they is dead... Once they freezed up then you take 'um and when they just about to get to room temp you take them bugs and ball 'um up like meatballs and then flatten 'um out like cookies and stick their little insectal bodies in the oven at about 375 degrees for 20-25 minutes an'...

...yummy...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Don Firth
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 11:48 PM

But you have to be careful about who's eating who.
The black flies, the little black flies
Always the black fly no matter where you go
I'll die with the black fly a-pickin' my bones
In North Ontar-eye-o-eye-o, In North Ontar-eye-o.

—Chorus of a song by Canadian singer-songwriter, Wade Hemsworth
Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 01:17 AM

Didn't I see somewhere that a branch of railroad goes to Churchill?


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Ed T
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 07:28 AM

Not Hudson's Bay, but rustic and relatively private, yet close to the shore. Likely a few skeeters in the evening, but no other wildlife to scare you:)

Rustic vacation?


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 08:09 AM

Bobert, you want peace and privacy but there's no need to go without a few of the amenities.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 11:46 AM

I took the train to Moosonee on James Bay (no road beyond Cochrane). The Ontario side. I enjoyed it. The locals were worth watching. The train would stop on request, to drop off hikers, campers, and locals who had a cabin or something out in the bush. Very FEW of these campers, and most of them experienced in the bush- not the type who camp in parks with water and latrine facilities.
I spent most of the trip in the refreshment car (good sandwiches, and the cook could fry up a steak), listening to the locals and their problems, They were talking secession, since the provincial government never paid any attention to them. I hope the train hasn't been gentrified since I took it.

There is a good paved road to James Bay on the Quebec side. Read the cautions, as noted above by GUEST, but it is not all that lonely, and there are always RVs and cars on it.

Here is a list of campsites along the James Bay road, Quebec.
http://jamesbayroad.com/campgrounds.html

Here is more information about the Quebec side- road, camps, fishing, etc.
http://www.quebecmusts.com/road-trip-james-bay-road.php

The area can be warm in the summer, it is low-lying. Hikers need plenty of OFF in spray cans. The skeeters and gnats can be relentless.   

Google James Bay Road- lots of information. Read the article in Canadian Geographic Magazine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 12:55 PM

Skeeters. They are bad at times, but I have seen them just as bad in Georgia and the Carolinas. You are probably used to them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 01:01 PM

Thanks for the additional information, Q... The train sounds fun but I'm kinda thinking more of a pull behind camper... Oh, and lots of beer and ice...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 03:13 AM

My old school buddy, who lives in Vancouver, took the train up to Churchill last year hoping to see polar bears, but the ice was still there and the bears were still out on it.
He said it was a good trip, apart from no bears.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hudson Bay Question???
From: GUEST,Don Wise
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 03:37 AM

I may be wrong but I think you'll find that the passenger train to Moosoonee doesn't run anymore........


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