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Subject: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Jun 13 - 05:15 PM Okay, I tried with a "worst movie of all time" thread with a certain movie in mind, but it naturally got hijacked. Not making that mistake THIS time! The title of this thread makes it clear what this thread is about: Tommy Wiseau's incredible movie "The Room" from 2003. "The Room" stands alone among movies. Is it a drama? Is it a black comedy? Is it satire? Can you watch it all the way through without being forever changed by it? Does it rival "Citizen Kane"? Is Tommy Wiseau the Messiah? All these questions can only be answered by: 1. watching it 2. asking Tommy Wiseau Anyway, it stands alone. Now, there is this rather obnoxious young fellow on Youtube who calls himself "The Nostalgia Critic" and he does a lot of movie reviews...and they are sometimes rather funny, depending on if you can stand his general wise-guy manner while you watch them. In the following video, the Nostalgia Critic takes on "The Room" and gives us his opinion of its artistic significance. Please watch and form your own conclusions. This will only take 28 minutes and 7 seconds of your life, and it may prompt you to purchase your own private copy of "The Room", and watch it repeatedly. I know people who've seen it as many as 50 times, and still can't get too much of it. Why? Tommy Wiseau. He's extraordinary. You can't help but be riveted every moment that he's onscreen. Nostalgia Critic reviews Tommy Wiseau's epic "The Room" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Songwronger Date: 11 Jun 13 - 09:42 PM I was going to inform the person who started this thread that you'd already done one. But I can't blame you for starting another. I watched the clips from your other thread, and I was...astounded. I remember thinking, "I can't believe he made this movie for six million dollars." It was as if Wiseau was channeling Orson Welles (who's been dead a few years). The Room made me aware of the depths which cenema can sound. A remarkable achievement. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Jun 13 - 11:43 PM Well said! "The Room" simply has to be seen in order to grasp its subtlety and deeper meaning. What it doesn't say about modern life, angst, loyalty, and trust simply isn't worth saying. It is the final word. Wiseau regularly attends midnight showings of his film to this day and answers questions from the audience. As for that disrespectful little twit, the Nostalgia Critic, I hope he gets devoured by a horde of famished sewer rats on his way to WalMart. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Jun 13 - 11:40 AM Here's a great clip from the movie. Johnny feels betrayed, does his legendary chicken imitation, Mark goes berserk! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: GUEST,CS Date: 12 Jun 13 - 11:58 AM Looks unbelievable LH, really ..something. Who IS this Wiseau fella anyway? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Jun 13 - 01:32 PM He's apparently an American citizen, despite the fact that he speaks with an indefinable European accent. He lives in California. He and his parents lived in France for, I think, about 10 years during his childhood. He has graduated from a number of prestigious acting schools, and had a long interest in show business. He personally financed "The Room" to the tune of $6 million, wrote it, produced it, directed it, and starred in it. I think he was probably very sincere in his desire to present a deeply serious message about life in the film, but it was marketed as a black comedy after the critics savaged it. Wiseau has taken a positive approach throughout, remaining cheerful and upbeat no matter what gets thrown at him. He's quite an unusual fellow, and although the script of the movie is wretchedly bad, there's something fascinating about Wiseau himself that actually makes the movie a lot of fun to watch. The toughest parts to sit through are the interminable and rather odd sexual interludes and the stupefyingly repetitive conversations between Lisa and her mother...Lisa's repeated seductions of Tommy's best friend Mark are also pretty hard to take, but THEN Tommy returns to the screen and it's all worth it! You can't imagine a nicer man than "Johnny" (Tommy's character in the film). What a sweet man he is. So idealistic and well-intentioned. How did he end up with a monster like Lisa??? (shudder) She's the blonde ditz that you see in the scene above, a Jezebel of our times, trouble on 2 legs, the cross that Johnny must bear as he is confronted with betrayal most foul! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: GUEST,CS Date: 12 Jun 13 - 03:27 PM But WHY WHY is Lisa so heartless and mean to Tommy when he's so good and kind? It's all so unfair, it's all so wrong, life is so cruel, WHY WHY? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Jun 13 - 07:12 PM I know. It's agonizing, isn't it? My Dachshund sat through this entire film one night and he got very depressed and angry by the end, though he absolutely LOVED the "Hi, doggie." scene at the flower shop. He wants to find Lisa and bite her viciously on the ankle. It got to me too, but I called up a couple of friends I know and we threw a football around in the backyard for a half hour. That helped ground me. I recommend this. Nothing can provide male bonding and a sense of all being right in the world like throwing around a football a few times a day with your guy friends. I wonder what women do to achieve the same level of serenity and comradeship? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: GUEST,CS Date: 13 Jun 13 - 03:12 AM According to 'The Room' women bond over a bit of light chit-chat about breast cancer. I'll have to try it next time I'm feeling angry at the unfairness of life. It must be reassuring for you that in this world filled with cruelty and heartless jezabels, to know that your Dachshund at least, has his moral compass set straight! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Jun 13 - 11:52 AM Yes! It is a great comfort to me. I also draw comfort from the fact that Tommy Wiseau is out there somewhere doing his bit to spread love and understanding in a broken world, and that he may one day make another movie as brilliant as "The Room"...although that won't be easy to accomplish. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Dave Hanson Date: 13 Jun 13 - 02:39 PM Unfortunately for those of us who have never heard of him or his film, Little Hawk is promoting it like the kings new clothes. Dave H |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Jun 13 - 02:45 PM Why do you say "unfortunately"? What could be more fortunate than becoming aware of Tommy Wiseau and "The Room"? You can see it now. It's on Youtube in its entirety. I suggest you watch it as soon as you can spare some time to do so. You will be profoundly moved and forever changed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Dave Hanson Date: 14 Jun 13 - 02:52 AM I say unfortunately because I am sure you will understand that continually ' gushing ' and ' overpraising ' something more often than not has the opposite of the intended effect. The more you keep on about it, the less likely I feel inclined to watch it, ' forever changed ' ? by a film ? I think not. Dave H |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: GUEST,Ellen Vanin Date: 14 Jun 13 - 03:24 AM Erm, Dave, I think you may have missed the point! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: GUEST Date: 14 Jun 13 - 04:45 AM If a lot of people love each other the world will be a better place to live...............https://www.facebook.com/theroommovie?ref=ts http://www.theroommovie.com https://www.facebook.com/theroommovie?ref=ts |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Jun 13 - 11:16 AM Dave Hanson, you are either one of the great satirical wits of all time...or we have a giant failure in communication happening here. ;-) Everyone has their favorite scene from "The Room". Mine has to be the flower shop scene ("Hi, Doggie."). It says so much in so little time and with so few words. Positively cosmic. If Bergman had possessed this kind of mastery, his films would be far more admired by the cognoscienti. As it is, he's just a runner-up to Wiseau. Another standout is the "I did naaaat hit her! Oh, hi, mark..." scene. Brando can't touch Wiseau when it comes to emoting lines like that. It's a tour de force of neo-classical-realism that left me breathless the first time I saw it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: GUEST,CS Date: 14 Jun 13 - 01:03 PM Dave I have to pipe up here and disagree with your assertion that Little Hawk's praising of this film is in any way off putting, personally I feel strongly motivated and inspired by this thread to watch The Room. Though it's also ironic that in some ways I almost feel like I've *already* shared the experience of watching The Room through Little Hawk's eloquent exposition of it's brilliance! So maybe I don't even need to now? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Dave Hanson Date: 14 Jun 13 - 02:44 PM Little Hawk, I thought the same thing about you, is it a huge mickey take or do you really believe all that - cosmic, tour de force of neo-classical-realism pretentious claptrap. Dave H |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Jun 13 - 04:40 PM It is, as you said, a huge micky take, Dave...if I understand that expression properly. I'm aiming for laughs here. The odd thing about "The Room" is that it's bad in such a totally unique and extraordinary way that it sort of makes it worth watching. I thoroughly enjoy revisiting various scenes, mostly because of Tommy Wiseau. He's so strange. With the rest of the cast it would just be a godawful bad film, horrible to sit through...but with Tommy onscreen it beoomes...as Mr Spock would say..."fascinating". I think he's dead serious. If not, he's discovered a whole new level in social satire. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Dave Hanson Date: 15 Jun 13 - 03:35 AM I admit defeat Little Hawk, well played, I'll certainly watch it at some time. Dave H |
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Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Wiseau's epic movie 'The Room' From: Little Hawk Date: 15 Jun 13 - 10:32 AM It's an amusing way to spend an hour and a half if nothing vital is calling for attention... ;-) |
