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Subject: BS: The culture of RAPE From: Donuel Date: 19 May 13 - 09:50 AM In my late twenties I was an activist against rape in all its manifistations, The unreported and reported, rape silenced by the powerful be they court judges, priests, police and control freaks. The tools and sills I had to offer were few but I proposed a means to help victims with the use of hypnosis to humanely help people overcome the trauma and in cases of an unknown rapist gain the maximum information possible to catch the criminal. Without a criminal justice degree I was still able to convey the methods of interrogation that would protect and enhance the victims recollection to the Seargent of the Rochester Police dept who in turn would teach methods of humane treatment and questioning of rape victims. My hopes were that in time there would be less unreported cases and healthier outcomes for the victimized. That was my reasoning in those times. In the present time the worst arena of rape exists in the military. The culture of rape is the the worst in any segment of our American society. Internationally the culture of rape is horrid in India and Islamic countries and bears similarities to the US military. If members here have listened to the Diane Rheems show on the subject feel free to re quote some of the shocking statistics, facts and figures regarding military rape. The hypocrisy of putting officers in charge of the victim reporting process, who are themselves sex abusers and rapists is one of the most shocking. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The culture of RAPE From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 May 13 - 03:15 PM Diane Rehm was speaking last week to the producers of a documentary The Invisible War about rape in the military. Here is the PBS blog site for Independent Lens that ran the program. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The culture of RAPE From: Joe Offer Date: 20 May 13 - 12:48 AM Here's a link to the Diane Reym show on sexual assault in the military: http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2013-05-09/sexual-assault-military?page=2 ...and sexual assault on campus: http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2013-05-09/sexual-assault-military?page=2. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The culture of RAPE From: Desert Dancer Date: 20 May 13 - 11:16 AM Having an 18-year-old son and thinking of his friends has particularly sensitized me to the revived discussions of rape culture and our attitudes and practices around sexuality and sex education. Very fortunately, he seems to be on a good track, at least. I've been collecting links to information that I hope will be of use to him, since it's certain that the schools, his peers, and a lot of popular culture are not going the best source of information. The issue of rape in the military: the incidence is outrageous, and half of those raped are men (though women are raped disproportionately to their presence in the military). It should be clear (or clearer than usual!) that these rapes are about power. The situation on the prosecution (or lack thereof) of rapists in the military is disgusting. I have some hope that things are about to change, at least at that end. I found this analysis of research on rape from four years ago very enlightening: Meet The Predators. An exerpt: "The [majority of] rapists who are out there are mostly using intoxication, and mostly attacking victims they know. … The vast majority of the offenses are being committed by a relatively small group of men, somewhere between 4% and 8% of the population, who do it again … and again … and again. … Further, since the repeaters are also responsible for a hugely disproportionate share of the intimate partner violence, child beating and child sexual abuse, the notion that these predators are somehow confused good guys does not square with the data. Most of the raping is done by guys who like to rape, and to abuse, assault and violate." The military is a logical place for these kinds of personalities to find a comfortable home. Along the lines of improving and educating attitudes and practice more generally, I really loved this: 'Jam' - video based on the essay 'Toward A Performance Model Of Sex' from 'Yes Means Yes: Visions Of Women's Sexual Power And A World Without Rape'. More in a separate post. ~ Becky in Tucson |
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Subject: RE: BS: The culture of RAPE From: Desert Dancer Date: 20 May 13 - 11:21 AM I posted this on Facebook back in the middle of April, but I don't think most of my friends noticed it. It came of some pretty intense feelings. -- In today's "third wave" of feminism, people debate whether to call themselves "feminists", and often the issue is with an idea about "angry feminists". There is some power and strength in righteous anger. I read about Rehtaeh Parson's suicide, I worry about the self-image of some of my son's friends, and I think, "Is there some way that we can impart strength to these young women, so that they have the armor and fire to survive these hurts -- the little, day-to-day injuries, and maybe even the awful assaults?" But anger has to come out of the strength of self-confidence. And that self confidence comes out of the knowledge of loving friends and family and community. And it also comes from the confidence that justice can win out in the world. Few of us are lucky to be so completely armed against life's assaults. Rehtaeh's armor was compromised by the failure of her community: a society where not only would the young men that she knew conceive of making an assault on her, but would conceive of sharing images of it, and that those would be received by her peers as shaming her, rather than them. A society where her response, shame outweighing anger against her assailants, is reinforced by the reactions of not only her immature peers, but the adults whose job it is to enforce the law and render justice. As much as I might wish it, it is unreasonable to expect a person who has been assaulted to arm themselves with anger. But it should not be seen as wrong if that person is angry. And it is entirely righteous for others to be angered by their injury, to be angered by the failure of our community and society to prevent such injuries and to render justice when they occur. Let us take the fire of that anger to kindle change. The aim is not to live in anger (or its partner, fear), but to stand up and speak out and raise our children to understand what love is, for the sake of their inner strength and their right actions. To see their connections with others, to feel human empathy. To seek and make justice by words and actions when they see others going wrong. ~ Becky in Tucson |
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Subject: RE: BS: The culture of RAPE From: Desert Dancer Date: 20 May 13 - 11:25 AM Donuel, do you know if any of the practices you developed are still in use? ~ B in T |
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Subject: RE: BS: The culture of RAPE From: Ed T Date: 20 May 13 - 07:52 PM ""The average age of rape victims in Cameroon is 15". This related story on breast ironing I found alarming - I was not aware of the practice or frequency of it in this country (and possibly others). Of ftopic, but felt it would broaden the discussion of some side issues related to rape. Cameroon and Breast Ironing |
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Subject: RE: BS: The culture of RAPE From: GUEST Date: 20 May 13 - 07:54 PM Find the fucks and cut off their nuts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The culture of RAPE From: Bill D Date: 20 May 13 - 08:17 PM Very creative.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The culture of RAPE From: Donuel Date: 05 Jun 13 - 05:05 PM When dealing with police education I learned that nothing obvious should ever be assumed to be known. The nature of individuals drawn to the police profession are more often than the general population to have a more "healthy" degree of psychopathology. What I mean by "healthy is that they are on the less empathetic side and more on the manipulative selfish side of identity. Those police who are described as the good cops are usually on the more empathetic side of personalities. So...teaching empathy skills to those devoid of an empathetically wired brain is doomed to be understood only as a manipulative strategy by the more psycho minded. I do not intend or imply that the 'empathicly' dead among us are murderers or are of less value to society. They have an ease doing some things than a differently wired brain can not do without extreme conflict. The wiring difference is the entire region of the amygdala up around the inner core and back down to the hypothalamus. This region in the psycho brain is much less active. In answer to your personal question; It seems to me that all our collective contributions to a more just society with an accent toward justice for all, has progressed to this current time in which a backlash has become more vocal from closet racists who are still coming out since 2008. What has gone backwards in criminal justice is torture, the rarest of all justice(trial by jury) , secrecy to the point of injustice and a system that excludes the rich from justice simply because they are considered only an unwitting participant in a corrupt system! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The culture of RAPE From: GUEST,Lavengro Date: 06 Jun 13 - 04:45 AM I must admit that I have not watched the links above so I am only chipping in on some of the general comments by other posters. I think it is dangerous to narrow the field of view in regard to rape. It is not in the preserve of certain countries (India), religions (Islam) or cultures (the military). You could (for example) pick out some equally horrific stories of rape from the UK, US or South and Central America where the Christian religion predominates. Speaking as ex-military with overseas experience, soldiers do not rape. If you commit that crime you cease to be a soldier and should not(IMO)have the "protection" or option of a military custody. You should be in a civilian prison. Rape is not a feminist issue, it is a human being issue. Violence against women is everyones problem; there is no cultural or religious "excuse" for it. A society that doesn't value its women doesn't value a whole lot, and that needs to be remembered and made self evident to our young people. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The culture of RAPE From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 06 Jun 13 - 09:09 AM That was a great article, quite lengthy but well worth reading. I always listen to Dianne Rehm :-) What I have noticed is that lately the conversation about rape is moving in a new direction, namely, is it okay to have sexual relations with a women who is too intoxicated to give her consent. This gets tricky because the logic involved in arresting for DWI is "You allowed yourself to get to this point, you will now be held responsible." I think a lot of people follow that same logic when it comes to sexual behavior in intoxicated circumstances, and many of them, unfortunately are cops. This conversation is relevant to domestic violence also. A woman has to be both sober and in the middle of serving a casserole to her family to get an ounce of sympathy when physically assaulted. Women who are alcoholics live more precariously than men because they live under the looming threat of victimization by males. A gay man who identifies with the fairer sex and has a drinking or drug problem is also at risk for this same sort of victimization. What people need to understand is that, in the wild, predators go for the easiest prey, not the prime of the herd. It is no different in any other context. Predators choose their victims, they are discriminate. Causal factors of rape and abuse have much more to do with how predators think and act than any traits or characteristics of victims (outside of sheer vulnerability). I had an experience in middle school when I was on the cheerleading team. When we went to another school, we'd often be bussed back to our own school to change without adult supervision. There didn't seem to be a problem until the one time an aggressive boy decided to target me by grabbing my crotch in the hall for no particular reason- and he wouldn't let go, pleading had no effect. The behavior of the other boys around him was disturbing. They thought it was funny. In fact, the situation had all the ominous earmarks of becoming a party- until one boy named Hector Rodriquez, a Puerto-Rican from NYC, came into the hallway and put a stop to it. Then he saw me home safely. I'll never forget him. The entire incident was terrifying. I was only 14 years old at the time. As far as I'm concerned, the fight goes on until 9 out of 10 males would do what Hector did. And remember, we wouldn't be having this conversation if it weren't for a few brave young women willing to step forward and talk about their victimization. Other women need to realize that that's what it's going to take. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The culture of RAPE From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 06 Jun 13 - 09:08 PM There are dangers in relying on hypnotism as a way of uncovering memories. Memory is a tricky thing. |
