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Subject: Obit: National Famine From: Jim Martin Date: 16 May 13 - 07:21 AM Kilrush National Famine Memorial Day Everyone concerned with the Kilrush National Famine Memorial Week laid on a magnificient commemoration, culminating in the most moving of ceremonies last Sunday: http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10148303/ |
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Subject: RE: Obit: National Famine From: michaelr Date: 16 May 13 - 04:48 PM I was in Kilrush in 2004. One of the most poignant moments of my travels in Ireland came when I sat in the Famine graveyard and sang "Lone Shanakyle". Thanks for the link, Jim! |
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Subject: RE: Obit: National Famine From: Rog Peek Date: 17 May 13 - 02:19 PM Yes Jim, thanks for the link, watched the whole program, very moving. Rog |
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Subject: RE: Obit: National Famine From: GUEST,CS Date: 17 May 13 - 02:39 PM I don't understand what place the military have in the commemoration of Ireland's dead by famine? It wan't a war, but a massive human tragedy that the British could have alleviated, but chose not to. I simply don't understand the value of retrospective pomp and circumstance of this kind. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: National Famine From: GUEST,mg Date: 17 May 13 - 04:09 PM My ancestors died in the famine, I presume, but I do not totally blame all the English all the time. If you read books, available for free on Kindle, you will read that there were efforts. There was bumbling. There was incompetence. There was failure to realize the extent of it. There were also famines in the lowland countries and some food was diverted or bought there. Not all landlords were English..some were Irish, some were Dutch, French, etc. There were saintly landlords and there were scoundrels (anyone know where Lord Ventry falls? He would have been the "master" of my ancestors). There were useless projects with terrible fatalities..the roads that went nowhere and sometimes tore up good roads to do so...there was money set aside for drainage of land that was not even famine funds...and there were efforts to use that drainage money to employ farmers at draining and then growing food...there was opposition to that and to many schemes, but there was not total, absolute, we are English and we will just let the Irish starve so we can get their lands for livestock feeling...it was mixed... If you want to know more about our famine cd, which is almost entirely songs about the famine, some about my own family, just pm me. SOme of the songs...well, all of them I think..are awesome and give a personal view of what went on. mg |
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Subject: RE: Obit: National Famine From: Jim Martin Date: 18 May 13 - 07:16 AM Thanks very much for that GUEST,mg. The way I see it GUEST,CS, Ireland was just paying its' respect (some would say, belatedly) to the millions who suffered (& some would also say, are still suffering the after-effects!)and felt it fit to lay on the full ceremonial works which it thought appropriate. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: National Famine From: Jim Martin Date: 28 May 13 - 06:09 AM refresh |
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