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Subject: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: JohnInKansas Date: 12 May 13 - 07:08 PM Sometimes it takes that little extra effort A video of "how not to take down a silo" illustrates the necessity of hiring someone with sufficient skills to get the job done, which appears to be something a little neglected. But it does also show that a couple of the "good ol' boys" with the right heavy machinery can still finish the job. (short commercial up front of course, and you do have to watch half way through the main show to see how it ends, but it's only about a minute.) Anybody got any recollections of times when "conventional methods" needed supplemental creativeness? John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: ranger1 Date: 12 May 13 - 07:45 PM I offered to take the neighbor's recycling down to the recycling trailer a couple of weeks ago. It was all neatly stacked in a nice lined basket. The trailer was nearly empty, and I dropped the basket while emptying it. I'm only about 5'2", and I could neither reach the basket by hand, nor could I crawl in to get it (not to mention get myself back out if I had gotten in!). I pondered for a moment, then rummaged through my car and found a bungee cord and hooked it through the weave and hauled it back out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: gnu Date: 12 May 13 - 08:43 PM Nain, Labrador is 13 mile "inland" due to many islands and shallows and the tide comes up at over a foot a half hour due to the hydraulic head. Buddy got his PH28 hoe stuck uparse inna pug pullin stone fer shore protection. Two TDH21s haulin wit one inch couldn't suck n outta tha pug... they was jus spinnin tracks. Nudder alf our and she's toast ol man! I says, young wet one as I were, "Turn yer arse round and dig yersel a hole ona arse a yer buggy man!" Problem solved! I got rum all night! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: Ebbie Date: 12 May 13 - 10:05 PM Turn yer arse round and dig yersel a hole ona arse a yer buggy man!" Translation? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: JohnInKansas Date: 13 May 13 - 04:03 AM Assumption: a PH28 is what we sometimes call a "backhoe(?)" or something similar. I didn't find one for sale locally to get a picture. It has a jointed arm that reaches out and drags a bucket back toward the carriage to scoop stuff up, and when the bucket's full it can swing and reach to where it wants to "upend" the bucket and dump it. Similar ones that "scoop away from" the rig can still pull with the bucket, used often to "smooth the dig." Most such that are on tracks, and some on independent wheels can swing 360 degrees. (As a farm tractor attachment they're more limited on how far they can swing.) Turn around bassakwards and drag a bucket full of muck toward you (make a hole) and the bucket arm probably has enough added pull (esp with a full bucket) that, along with the tracks, it quite likely would be able to pull the monster out of the muck. Seen it done a few times, assuming I'm visualizing the right machine. Some similar machines, whether drag or scoop, have strong enough arm actions to tip the rig up on it's a** or over one its side - something an operator has to be aware of. (Seen that done once with a little one. Operator very embarrassed.) John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: Ed T Date: 13 May 13 - 06:47 AM Thanks for the translation, John. A technique commonly used to free up such "hung up" construction equipment, (often demonstrated on reality TV mining programs). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: JohnInKansas Date: 13 May 13 - 07:05 AM I'm not really sure it's a good translation; but it's the closest thing I could think of. Some of my old military manuals, especially on "Vehicle Recoveries" and "Field Expedients," have some great advice on "how to use things wrong to get it done right," but I don't recall that the Ordnance Corps where I got my books had much construction type stuff. The Corps of Engineers kept a pretty tight grip on all that fun stuff. I have seen a few civilian contractors do it wrong and make a horrible mess, but their "recovery plans" were just to throw money at it until the law suits went away, so they aren't too interesting to talk about. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: gnu Date: 13 May 13 - 08:01 AM Yeees b'y. Buddy JiK's got er spot on, spot on. Yer PHatch28 is yer igh-oe n yer TDHatch21 is yer big friggin dozer. If ye get yer gum rubber boot stuck ina mud, no way ye can pull it out fer tha suction what's keeps er stuck eh? But all boys knows ye never walks ina bog witout no stick on accounta ye needs a stick ta stick in backa yer boot ta get air n water inta tha ole sos ya can lift yer eel outna bog right? Same deal wit a oe stuck ina pug. Jaysus n Joe eh? I tough at was obvious. Mainlanders! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: Ebbie Date: 13 May 13 - 10:16 AM Ah. 'Minds me of the occasion when as a child I attempted to walk through a boggy corner of a horse corral. Got stuck and had to leave my boots behind and walk out of there in my bare feet. My brother had to rescue my boots stuck like posts in a field... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: Ed T Date: 13 May 13 - 03:38 PM Ever dig clams in a coastal area of the Bay of Fundy (for example, Digby, Nova Scotia)? It's kinda like walking in quick sand, to the inexperienced:) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: JohnInKansas Date: 13 May 13 - 03:42 PM No statistics, but it might be suspected that "chest waders" may kill more duck hunters than other hunters do. When you get a little too deep goin' after a downed duck and they fill up with water, you can't move and you can't get 'em off, unless you've practiced a fair bit to learn how in shallow water beforehand, and hardly anybody does that. Some "fly fishing guides" have been known to demand the lesson on "how to get out of 'em" before they'll let the clients in the water. One guy who discounted the need for the lessons said "I just tie a rope one 'em the first few times," but he might have been pullin a bit on somebody's leg that wasn't in a boot. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: gnu Date: 13 May 13 - 04:14 PM I heard a splash one day and went for a boo. Bro had his chest waders FULL and was tryin ta get back ta shore. The inertia of the water (which looked like he was standin in a BIG green bowl) moved back and forth in such harmonic motion as he moved forward that he fell several more times, each with the same resuts. I couldn't tell him to simply to throw his fishin rod with the big trout yankin on it after he snapped the line and just take em off because I was preoccupied with pissin myself laffin. He never even knew I saw it all on accounta if he had seen me laffin I'da been drowned and never found. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: gnu Date: 13 May 13 - 05:15 PM Minds me... one day on anudder job in yer Labrador... Makkovik airstrip. Buddy sticks his D4 (6?) ina bog n I takes a pic n e's standin on it. Good ting yer average Erring Choker is taller n yer avereage Newf on accounta he come after me a mad ON buddy! If e'da caught a old a me my cammera woulda ended up in a dark place from what I wouldna wanted ta ever use it again. Not ta mention e'da fired me ina bog fer good measure eh. Must see if I can find that pic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: GUEST,olddude Date: 13 May 13 - 05:24 PM In town we had an early 1800's rare octagon barn . The new owners knocked it down. It had I beams of oak and cherry and they stacked then up and burned them. I could have cried |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: gnu Date: 13 May 13 - 05:38 PM Oh my, Dan! Were charges laid for such injustice? That is sickening! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: Ed T Date: 13 May 13 - 06:21 PM When I was a youngster on PEI (Canada), a young Irish Moss fishermen was harvesting Irish moss on horseback with chest-high waders on. He was swamped by a big wave, and unfortunately never surfaced alive. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: gnu Date: 13 May 13 - 06:58 PM That's rough stuff, Ed. I suspect he musta got dashed on accounta it's easy ta free yerself if yer awake and aware, especially when there is no current or rocks. Then again, I went down in five feet a yer salt water one time and I was flat out on me back as the tide was "bouncin off the shore" and it picked my belly up and down VIOLENTLY and I couldn't stop it no matter fer all the flailin I did wit me arms and legs (5 er 10 years old). My cousin grabbed me by the feet and flipped me over... problem solved. I suppose one needs to know ya can't do shit about water when yer on yer back. Hell... ya can't even pee even if yer on yer side let alone dick up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 May 13 - 11:58 PM Watch it to the end. (it's not long) Try this for amazing news... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: JohnInKansas Date: 14 May 13 - 07:23 AM A story yesterday about a cat up a tree in Queens (New York) gives a rather cute picture on the little extra sometimes needed. It seems the call that actually went in for help reported "a Cop up a tree." A nearby school let out about the time that several Cop cars and Fire Dept vehicles arrived to survey the scene. It was reported that a number of kids were having quite a bit of fun taking in the action, but were polite and withheld rude remarks. An unhurried assessment of the situation by the police and fire department people determined that the Cop had climbed the tree to get the cat, but then neither of them were able to descend. No details of the discussion between police and fire dept personnel were given in the report. A fire department rescue ladder was (eventually after significant additional discussion of kinds not described) erected to where a fireman could escort both victims safely to the ground. No comments from the Cop who was up the tree were reported. Observers did describe the cat as "cute." [The actual report was rather sparse, but did describe all the steps above. If you can get a mental image of the whole thing as it unfolded you'll likely get a smile about like I did - and pity the poor Cop when his buddies get to him.] John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: gnu Date: 14 May 13 - 03:52 PM I am sure the cop had a good reason for not being able to descend. If not, well, yeah, there would be two pussies up a tree. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: Charmion Date: 14 May 13 - 04:00 PM That cop gets my vote for Public Servant of the Year. When my cat climbed onto the roof of the three-storey house next door without reconnoitering the route back to Terra Firma, I could not persuade anyone to help me rescue her and ended up climbing an aluminum extension ladder myself, in the rain at 10 o'clock at night in flippin' November. Why bother? Because she was howling the whole time, at the top of her Siamese voice, and I was afraid somebody would shoot her in sheer desperation. The guy at the firehouse told me that cat skeletons are not commonly found in trees, the toad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: gnu Date: 14 May 13 - 05:32 PM Charmion... they will eventually come come down on their own as they eventually have no choice. But, gee whiz! Ya'd thing a fireman woulda said they would swing by on their way to the grocery store on accounta they go there every day with the truck. (They do here.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: Charmion Date: 14 May 13 - 08:09 PM They do here, too. My favourite way of locating the meat special is to find a pair of firefighters in Loblaws. Cats fall off balconies and roofs, and out of trees, all the time. My vet treats several such casualties every week, and they usually have at least a broken leg. Sometimes -- in falls of more than four storeys, especially -- it's a broken back, and curtains for the cat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: gnu Date: 15 May 13 - 07:27 PM Yeah.... a boken back for a non-human is pretty much game over. Twas such for a broken rear leg on Bear at less than a year old. BIG pup and no way to keep him under control for the healing time as we couldn't give him the attention needed. He fought the bus and the bus won. Vet said that even with the op, he would have a very poor life and die early due simply to his size and young age without fairly constant and careful attention. Wasn't my call as he wasn't MY dog but I think my buddy made the right decision. Hmmmm.... I got a pick... ya gotta see the tongue on this pup! a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/15565423@N05/6649252663/in/photostream"> |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: gnu Date: 15 May 13 - 07:28 PM ? Bear |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sometimes a little extra is necessary From: michaelr Date: 15 May 13 - 08:22 PM GfS, thanks for that link! Enjoyed it very much. |
