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Subject: BS: Picking a College Degree From: JohnInKansas Date: 31 Mar 13 - 06:26 PM Getting your M.R.S? A "news" video at "today.com" quotes a Princeton alum as telling women on campus that "finding a husand" should be among their top priorities in college. ("More important than getting an A GPA") Apparently the advisor does significant "counseling" for undergraduatewomen, and the report has attracted lots of attention. There's no transcript to quote from, and the "news report" doesn't say much that hasn't been a campus joke for decades at least. Even around the office, the visitor who asks the manager of the typing pool "How many good typists do you have here?" is likely to get the well-worn answer "About ten percent, the rest are just hunt'n'peckers," - - or was until political correctness became policy. Comments on whether some of us have gotten over that attitude are obviously welcome. The similar goal of "making contacts" (sometimes euphemised as "finding mentors") is apparently quite alive at some schools and doesn't seem much different to me. (Some "friends" made at school can be about as hard to get rid of as divorcing a husband?) The interesting question on this subject is "did you try" and/or "did it work" for any of us here. Opinions on whether "it only works at the 'name' schools" may be expected, so evidence of other elsewheres that helpful support has been found would be interesting. While most of us get some "social support" from friends, "professional advantages" may be a little different thing (or may not be very different?). Of course in music/folk the infuential support might have come from a teacher or "some guy that got you bookings." Feel free to give credit where it's deserved beyond formal school situations. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: Jack the Sailor Date: 31 Mar 13 - 06:40 PM I saw her on a news show this morning, Today, I think. She said about the women "they will never again have such a large pool of available, quality men. Seems reasonable to me. My only complain is that she did not offer the same advise to the men |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: Bobert Date: 31 Mar 13 - 07:36 PM I donno... I found my 1st wife there and that marriage turned out to be a dud... BTW, unless you are from Germany, don't marry a German woman... IMHO, of course... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: Jack the Sailor Date: 31 Mar 13 - 08:06 PM You found your first wife while attending Princeton? Sorry to be pedantic but from the TV show, I gathered that her advice was specifically about Princeton. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: Bobert Date: 31 Mar 13 - 08:49 PM No, it was RPI at the time... Now VCU... No matter, it didn't exactly work our... She's back in Germany the last I heard... BTW, German gals is some tough gals... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: JohnInKansas Date: 31 Mar 13 - 10:16 PM I believe the broadcast indicated that she named about three universities as fertile hunting grounds. They were among those best known for the reputation. Contrary advice has been common for medical schools, where the degree many gals get (in night school after graduation?) is the P.H.T (putting hubby through) with the traditional case being that she supports him through his specialization and residence, after which she gets dumped for something younger that hasn't lived through all that hard work and is not quite so worn 'round the edges. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: Amos Date: 31 Mar 13 - 11:56 PM ANyone who goes to an institute of higher learning and spends four years merely hunting a mate is missing the big picture altogether. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: EBarnacle Date: 01 Apr 13 - 12:01 AM Read the article in the current issue of The Atlantic on why there are so few women at the top. "Miss Education" by Garance Franke - Ruta. See also the sidebar citing information from leading women who have written books. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: Jack the Sailor Date: 01 Apr 13 - 12:09 AM "Contrary advice has been common for medical schools, where the degree many gals get (in night school after graduation?) is the P.H.T (putting hubby through) with the traditional case being that she supports him through his specialization and residence, after which she gets dumped for something younger that hasn't lived through all that hard work and is not quite so worn 'round the edges." But what a chance for female med students to find a man with a trust fund to see them through specialization and residence. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: JohnInKansas Date: 01 Apr 13 - 12:40 AM A fellow who was a couple of rooms down the hall in the dorm for my first couple of years of Institutional Training had a "friend" that we all thought he was blackmailing, since she set him up for a date with one of her friends at Wellesley nearly every weekend of the two years, and NEVER persuaded any of them to go out with him TWICE. I met his friend once and she explained "We're only here to learn how to get a really good husband. He's just for practice like the rest of you guys." (We'd all thought it was 'cause he was a mathematician. How could anyone not want a good engineer?) That was 50 years ago, and I would hope that things might have changed some since. I'm not sure I have applicable data for telling whether they have. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 01 Apr 13 - 05:47 AM Good grief, we've gone backwards, and I dutifully burned my bra when Women's Lib took off. Just after the War, we 'plebs' (working class State Grammar School erks) were encouraged by heroic teachers to aim high and choose a career rather than Woolworths assistant, marriage and children. My parents also pushed my sister and me hard to get a University place and finish with a good profession. (Teaching for me, Medicine for my sis) Neither the school staff, parents or anyone else EVER said 'Use the time at Uni to grab a husband'. There were over 10,000 students at Edinburgh Uni where I went. I joined several Societies and clubs, met loads of people of both sexes and had a lovely time. But Husband Hunting?? Never crossed my mind! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: katlaughing Date: 01 Apr 13 - 10:41 AM one of my sisiters was used, then dumped when HE got HIS graduate degree. that was in the 70s. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: Bill D Date: 01 Apr 13 - 10:54 AM Both sexes have their shallow, exploitive members. They usually have slightly different goals, but it's hard to watch when you know some of the people involved. My college years saw some predatory behavior from both sides. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: Pete Jennings Date: 01 Apr 13 - 11:42 AM I had a few dates - nothing serious - with a couple of the girls at art college when I did my first degree, but mainly spent all day and most of the evening working before nipping down the pub for the last half-hour (in the days when they stopped serving at 10.30). During the recent second degree I was (and still am) happily married, so no hanky-panky that time! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 01 Apr 13 - 12:59 PM For the male, college is a good hunting ground for a mate, since she will have an equivalent education. She will be able to help her mate get an advanced degree by supporting him. (The converse could also be true). Retreating to a fortified position...... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Picking a College Degree From: Jack the Sailor Date: 01 Apr 13 - 01:21 PM It depends on your goals in life I would think. For an ambitious woman who wants an ambitious man, the premise seems reasonable. If she wants someone handy around the house, maybe Princeton ain't the place. |
