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Subject: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: Jack Campin Date: 29 Mar 13 - 09:46 AM I thought this was interesting: http://www.livescience.com/27417-teen-pregnancy-rates-by-state.html So I correlated it by electoral preference (at the 2008 election, those being the first figures I found). Red for Republican, blue for Democrat. Figures per 1000 births: 1. New Mexico - 93 2. Mississippi - 90 3. Texas - 85 4. Nevada - 84 5. Arkansas - 82 6. Arizona - 82 7. Delaware - 81 8. Louisiana - 80 9. Oklahoma - 80 10. Georgia - 78 11. South Carolina - 76 12. Hawaii - 76 13. Tennessee - 76 14. Alabama - 73 15. Florida - 73 16. North Carolina - 72 17. California - 72 18. New York - 71 19. Kentucky - 71 20. Alaska - 69 21. Illinois - 68 22. Wyoming - 68 23. Colorado - 66 24. West Virginia - 65 25. Missouri - 65 26. Maryland - 63 27. Kansas - 63 28. Ohio - 62 29. New Jersey - 62 30. Washington - 60 31. Oregon - 60 32. Montana - 59 33. Indiana - 58 34. Michigan - 58 35. Idaho - 57 36. Pennsylvania - 56 37. Virginia - 56 38. Connecticut - 55 39. Rhode Island - 53 40. South Dakota - 53 41. Iowa - 51 42. Nebraska - 50 43. Utah - 48 44. Wisconsin - 45 45. Maine - 43 46. Massachusetts - 42 47. North Dakota - 42 48. Minnesota - 42 49. Vermont - 38 50. New Hampshire - 33 Not ranked: District of Columbia - 112 (Washington, D.C. is more comparable to a city than to a state, so it was left out of the official rankings.) I see a pattern there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: Ebbie Date: 29 Mar 13 - 11:15 AM If by 'pattern' you mean that Red states tend to have higher teen pregnancy rates, that may be but I don't think it is proven or even suggestive as to the cause. The American south as a whole is poorer than the rest of the country, and people tend to marry at a younger age. Both factors could affect the stats. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: Steve Shaw Date: 29 Mar 13 - 11:35 AM The differences are not slight. The bottom seven (of which six are "blue") have less the half the rates of the top two. As Ebbie says, the causes are not to be guessed at. There will be several factors in play. But consider the following: A large number of the people in the statistics will not be married or cohabiting. You get pregnant by having unprotected sex. A certain kind of right-wing mindset (red) militates against contraception, contraception advice and sex education. A certain kind of right-wing mindset (red) advocates, stupidly, abstinence. Many of the pregnancies, and I'd guess more in the states with the higher numbers (red), will be unplanned and/or unwanted. Discouraging sex education and contraception, and advocating abstinence (red), will do absolutely nothing to reduce abortion rates. OK, so cause and effect can't be established by a table of figures, but there is definitely an issue here that needs addressing, no? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: Mrrzy Date: 29 Mar 13 - 11:35 AM marriage has little to do with it. ignorance of basic biology seems to be a right for the right... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: Tiger Date: 29 Mar 13 - 11:51 AM Another chapter of "Why I don't visit Mudcat much, any more" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: Greg F. Date: 29 Mar 13 - 04:21 PM It's nice to see that for once, good old Mississippi isn't at the very bottom - CLOSE, but not last. ignorance of basic biology seems to be a right for the right... not quite - its a RELIGION for the right. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 29 Mar 13 - 04:48 PM It's a specist study! They did no statistical analysis of the teen pregnancy rates by state for apes and monkeys, just humans...as if human pregnancies were the only ones that matter. - Chongo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: Lighter Date: 29 Mar 13 - 08:04 PM Yet another factor is that the possibility that high pregnancy rates (and similar sins) drive voters to seek tough solutions from conservative politicians touting "traditional family values." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: gnu Date: 29 Mar 13 - 08:24 PM What pattern? And the ensuing omments only offer empirical evaluations and admit to analyses which are basically flawed by lack of inclusion of factors which would necessary for any reasonable inspection of the stats. I am with Tiger on this one. Until a decent analysis is done and presented in a reasonable fashion, I can only draw one conclusion. gnightgnu |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: GUEST,CS Date: 30 Mar 13 - 08:51 AM 93 of 1000 is the highest rate for teen pregnancies in a Replican state - that's 9.3% 81 of 1000 is the highest rate for teen pregnancies in a Democratic state - that's 8.1% 42 of 1000 is the lowest rate ... in a Republican state - 4.2% 33 of 1000 is the lowest rate ... in a Democratic state - 3.3% One percent in it doesn't strike me as too significant? Or is my maths really bad? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: Steve Shaw Date: 30 Mar 13 - 09:19 AM The pattern is the self-evident correlation between states being Republican and high teenage pregnancy rates. Whilst it's a long time since I did statistics at university (in the pre-PC days!), I'm sure that a statistical analysis would demonstrate that correlation with a high degree of confidence. One problem here is that you're comparing detailed figures on the one hand with the rather blunt red/blue on the other. It would be more useful to compare the pregnancy figures with the degree of republican-ness/democrat-ness. Numbers voting for each party versus teenage pregnancy rates. All that having been said, correlation still does not imply cause and effect. That's a bit twisty, CS, proving that you can get statistics to say exactly what you want them to say. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: Jack Campin Date: 30 Mar 13 - 10:09 AM Selecting four numbers out of 50 is not a great approach to statistical analysis. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 31 Mar 13 - 12:58 AM Well I certainly don't think they were talkin' politics, while eying each other!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: Will Fly Date: 31 Mar 13 - 05:55 AM Where are the purple pregnancies? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Teen pregnancy rates for US states From: Jack Campin Date: 31 Mar 13 - 06:33 AM They keep quiet about those in case the Purple People Eater finds out about them. |
