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Subject: BS: Life on Mars- From: beardedbruce Date: 12 Mar 13 - 03:07 PM Once upon a time.... Wow! Ancient Mars Could Have Supported Primitive Life, NASA Says By Mike Wall | SPACE.com – 1 hr 28 mins ago It's official: Primitive life could have lived on ancient Mars, NASA says. A sample of Mars drilled from a rock by NASA's Curiosity rover and then studied by onboard instruments "shows ancient Mars could have supported living microbes," NASA officials announced today (March 12) in a statement and press conference. The discovery comes just seven months after the Curiosity rover landed on Mars to spend at least two years determining if the planet could have ever supported primitive life. "A fundamental question for this mission is whether Mars could have supported a habitable environment," said Michael Meyer, lead scientist for NASA's Mars Exploration Program at the agency's headquarters in Washington. "From what we know now, the answer is yes." [The Search for Life on Mars (Photo Timeline)] Curiosity drilled into a rock on Feb. 8, boring 2.5 inches (6.4 centimeters) into an outcrop called John Klein using its arm-mounted hammering drill, going deeper than any robot had ever dug into the Red Planet before. Two weeks later, the rover transferred the resulting gray powder samples into two onboard instruments called Chemistry and Mineralogy (CheMin) and Sample Analysis at Mars, or SAM. CheMin and SAM identified some of the key chemical ingredients for life in this powder, including sulfur, nitrogen, hydrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and carbon. The fine-grained John Klein rock also contains clay minerals, suggesting a long-ago aqueous environment that was salty and neutral, researchers said — that is to say, a place that likely was habitable. http://news.yahoo.com/wow-ancient-mars-could-supported-primitive-life-nasa-173508151.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Mar 13 - 03:23 PM Nice to know that NASA's got around to confirming what seemed bloody obvious for quite a long time now. There may still be some life there, if you look around hard enough for it. And you never know, Bruce, some of us might just be the descendants of some onetime Martians who went looking for a more hospitable environment when theirs got pretty much worn out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: gnu Date: 12 Mar 13 - 03:42 PM LH... they did and I have undisputable proof. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: alanabit Date: 12 Mar 13 - 03:45 PM Er, obvious Little Hawk? I don't think so. If you look at the near miraculous chain of circumstances, which is necessary to get life started, you start to realise that the odds against life evolving anywhere are pretty slim. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: gnu Date: 12 Mar 13 - 03:55 PM Especially in Blind River. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Mar 13 - 04:50 PM Well, yes, in Blind River...kinda slim. ;-) Boy they had some stupid TV shows back then, eh, gnu?! Pathetically weak stuff. But I think the garbage that's on TV now may be even worse. alanabit, I quite agree about the seemingly totally miraculous nature of the origins of life...but I suspect that the Universe is absolutely full of it (life...not what just came to your mind). Most of it is probably not apparent to us, because our perceptions are still pretty limited, despite the fact that we have found ways to mutually destroy each other in the blink of an eye and render this planet uninhabitable in the process. Ah, we are soooo clever! ;-) There are probably forms of life which can live under conditions we would consider completely intolerable to life as we know it. But as for life as we do know it, there are probably thousands of planets in the Universe that provide suitable conditions for such life to evolve, and many of them may contain life somewhat comparable to ours. If so, though, most of them are surely too far away for us to do anything about it at present. We're great at blowing things up...but not so great at interstellar travel yet. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: olddude Date: 12 Mar 13 - 06:55 PM Well if you think about it, in the heated volcanic vents under the ocean life is abundant at temp and depths that would have made our past thinking of life there impossible. Deep sea probes found a host of life living in and around those vents in superheated water. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 12 Mar 13 - 07:02 PM Yes, olddude, just think of it! Life forms already at cooking temperatures, you may even have to put them in cold water to prepare for the dinner table. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: Don Firth Date: 12 Mar 13 - 11:06 PM Life on Mars? Not much. But things tend to liven up a bit on Saturday nights. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 12 Mar 13 - 11:39 PM I don't know about life on Mars, but I once found some interesting stuff growing on a Snickers bar one of my kids had lost between the sofa cushions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Mar 13 - 12:37 AM There probably is intelligent life on Mars..because they ain't lookin' for it here! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: skarpi Date: 13 Mar 13 - 04:30 AM have you look for Curiosity in Utah desert....dear people NASA is fooling with us , this is a HOAX ..just like the some of the moon travels was taken in the studios by NASA ..the US have base both on the MOON and MARS ....and have been there since the 1960 .... and some one is mining on the moon ...new pictures from Japan space satellite the was driving and leaving tracks ...?? its time the US tell the world what a HECK they are doing ... and what are they mining helium 3 ?? you have a big black world in your back yard ...so you may start clean up ...you own back yard ....there is a Government inside your Government and you don´t do anything about it , they get 80 billions dollars every year of your budget , and you don´t have a health care ? many hundreds of thousands of people have no food on the table ... I can´t under stand this , they take the black world and secrets over humanity ... out in the Indian sea they found two city´s 12000 years old ?? amazing .....and we are from stone age ....or what .. Government of this world start to tell us the truth ... we are not alone and have not been for a long time . I am going to in the group who says , I told you so .... all the best from the land of the elf and trolls . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Mar 13 - 04:33 AM Interesting....got pics? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 13 Mar 13 - 05:11 AM Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: beardedbruce Date: 13 Mar 13 - 08:04 AM "there are probably thousands of planets in the Universe that provide suitable conditions for such life to evolve," Actually, the analysis is that there are probably millions of planets in our Galaxy alone that provide said conditions- and millions of Galaxies.... We are not alone- (Unless you go against the accepted wisdom of Mudcat) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: skarpi Date: 13 Mar 13 - 08:43 AM beard bruce ...I am not against anyone ....I respect others view .. it s just that we are not alone ...and soon we will see that in closer look than ever before ... the question is what will the humans do , shoot first and ask after ? like the some did in the 1940 to this day .....or make contact. or freak out .... that is a question .... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: Don Firth Date: 13 Mar 13 - 07:33 PM According to the Drake Equation (look it up) , there are millions, possibly billions, of planets out there in this galaxy capable of supporting life as we know it here on earth. And with that many, it's more than probable that intelligent, technological life developed on some of them. That's what SETI is all about. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Mar 13 - 08:00 PM Yes, quite so. Thanks for upping the probable numbers of habitable planets to millions, bb. I love the idea that the Universe has millions of habitable planets. I'd hate to think that ours was the only one. If you want to see something interesting in the desert in Nevada, skarpi, take a look on Google Earth. You will find that there is a large area just west of the tiny town of Rachel, Nevada that has been covered over with big green circle overlays, so you can't look at what's there. You can see the roads, and there are many, but you can't see what's inside the various areas the roads section off. It's the top secret military base known as Area 51, and we most definitely do not get to look at it on Google Earth, no sir. Furthermore, if you go anywhere near it on foot you encounter some very stringent security, and signs that warn you may be shot if you advance any further in a given direction (toward the base area). There have been all kinds of rumours about what's going on at Area 51 for many years regarding possible UFO wrecks being salvaged, secret aircraft being designed there, back-engineering of alien technology, or just plain secret technology all our own, etc. I have no definite opinion one way or the other about which it might be, but there's definitely something out of the ordinary happening there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: frogprince Date: 13 Mar 13 - 09:21 PM As to the original question, life on Mars; for cryin' out loud, that's been answered long years ago; haven't ya read "The Martian Chronicles"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: Rapparee Date: 13 Mar 13 - 10:01 PM Life on Earth evolved from the litter left by a picnic of intergalactic slobs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Life on Mars- From: Don Firth Date: 13 Mar 13 - 10:19 PM Even before "The Martian Chronicles." Dejah Thoris (pant pant), Tars Tarkas . . . Don Firth |