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Subject: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: GUEST,Raggytash Date: 06 Mar 13 - 08:25 AM When my father was discharged from the Royal Navy in November 1946 he had achieved the rank of A. LDG. SEA (TY) Now I know A.LDG.SEA stands for Able Bodied Leading Seaman but do not know what TY represents and my brief searches on Google have not yet come up with anything. Do anyone know what TY stands for ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: Megan L Date: 06 Mar 13 - 08:35 AM Raggy it meant temporary found it here RN abreviations |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: artbrooks Date: 06 Mar 13 - 08:36 AM Maybe 'Temporary', although I wouldn't know if that meant a temporary promotion or a 'duration-only' enlistment. http://www.naval-history.net/xDKCas1005-Abbreviations.htm |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: artbrooks Date: 06 Mar 13 - 08:37 AM Girls is faster typers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: GUEST Date: 06 Mar 13 - 11:17 PM Trans-sexual from Y outh It means your father was a hermaphrodyte....(a most able of any British seman) Most TY 's are impotent. Have you considered....you might be adopted? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: GUEST,Raggytash Date: 07 Mar 13 - 06:05 AM It's a wise man who knows his father, however when I look in the mirror in the morning my old dad looks back at me. I don't think there can be much doubt. Now if you asked about my great, great grandma .................................. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: gnu Date: 07 Mar 13 - 07:26 AM "Girls is faster typers." Hehehee! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 07 Mar 13 - 12:28 PM I seem to remember wartime service was Hostilities Only or HO! RtS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: Dead Horse Date: 07 Mar 13 - 06:50 PM Able Seaman and Leading Seaman are two seperate ranks, so I dont believe there is such a thing as an Able Leading Seaman. It is far more likely to be Acting Leading Seaman, which is in itself a temporary rank. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: GUEST,Raggytash Date: 08 Mar 13 - 02:15 AM Thanks for the clarification Dead Horse, the Japanese finally capitulated on my Fathers 20th Birthday 15th August 1945. He spent another 15 months in the Royal Navy before his demob in November 1946. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: Bruce D Date: 08 Mar 13 - 07:40 AM A.LDG.SEA is a badly written abbreviation of Acting Leading Seaman which should be refer to as A/LS in official terms but was often seen in WWII RN ships crew listing. TY is for Temporary, but the RN didn't give out temporary promotions to Junior Ranks, and wartime ratings were refer to as Hostilities Only (HO)during the earlier part of WWII. I have seen the TY abbreviation in some WWII crew listings but have no idea what they refer to. For Sailors, the ranks were Seaman, Ordinary Seaman (ORD), Able Seaman (AB), Leading Seaman(LS), Petty officer (PO) Chief Petty Officer (CPO) and Warrant Officer (WO), anybody below a AB were normally refer to as a seaman and abbreviations were rarely used to describe them. Its only in novels that you see things like Able Bodied Leading Seaman describing a rank. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 08 Mar 13 - 08:41 AM If memory serves, the abbreviation for Ordinary Seaman was OS? RtS (Former PO in the Sea Cadets!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: GUEST,Raggytash Date: 08 Mar 13 - 02:27 PM Hi Bruce, The "rank" I put down is taken from both my Fathers "Certificate of Service" record which lists each training establishment or vessel he served on (including HMS Rodney, the majority of his service)and his "War Gratuity & Post War Credit of Wages". Both list him as A.Ldg.Sea.(Ty) From joining the Navy at 17 years and 6 months to his leaving at the age of 20 years and 3 months he received the staggering amount of 55 pounds 3 shillings and 6 pence. £55/3/6 A large proportion of this came from being a Leading Seaman 12/- (shillings) a month for 24 months (£24/12/0)and 1223 days at 6p (£30/11/6) It is a pitiful amount for a young man who by that time was newly married, a marriage which lasted 40 years till he died prematurely at the age of 60. I still miss the cantankerous old bugger after 27 years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: Dead Horse Date: 08 Mar 13 - 05:11 PM The pay for those in the services may have seemed poor by comparison with civvy pay, but in those days of high unemployment the prospect of having that much money without having to pay for food and accomodation is what enticed many to join before hostilities commenced. After that of course, there was no choice. Nowadays servicemen are low paid and still have to pay for food and accomodation. When leaving the service they find that they are, for the most part, treated with suspicion and disrespect. Compared to the US and in particular Australia & NZ, where returning servicemen and women are given every help and huge respect by all except the most obnoxious politicians, this country is the pits. Sorry for the rant. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What is TY in Naval Ratings From: Dead Horse Date: 09 Mar 13 - 06:32 AM Lo and behold - this appeared in the paper today |
