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Subject: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: mg Date: 01 Mar 13 - 10:29 PM does anyone know? I would like to put one on cd cover and friend who sells them says they are not copyrighted but that sounds unlikely to me.m I imagine if the company still exists they would own it but what if it is gone? |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: Ebbie Date: 01 Mar 13 - 10:36 PM Salmon? |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Mar 13 - 11:25 PM Are you talking about the art on cans or cases? That might well be under copyright. If you look at fruit and vegetable cases you'll see some distinctive art there. Like this or this. Take a look at this search (scroll through). SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: Richard Bridge Date: 01 Mar 13 - 11:53 PM JURIS-fucking-DICTION? HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THAT US LAW DOES NOT APPLY WORLDWIDE? |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: mg Date: 02 Mar 13 - 01:02 AM yes...canning labels...i didn't find any i wanted..then i found the one that says legacy of the columbia river fisheries..it is perfect but it for a new trqaveling um museum exhibit..google salmon label columbia river...in astoria they have trash cans with salmon labels..really look great... |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: Ebbie Date: 02 Mar 13 - 03:30 AM There ya go, Richard B- that's the way to train 'em. |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 02 Mar 13 - 12:42 PM Contact the agency owning the image. Is there an artist copyright? Berne Convention- Protection granted, 2a "There are two basic elements of protection under the Berne Convention: first, "nationaal treatment,' according to which works originating in one of the member States must be protected in each of the member States in the same way that such States protect the works of their own nationals; second, minimum rights, which means that the laws of member States must provide the minimum levels of protection established by the Convention." b. Formality-Free Protection ---- etc. http://www.wipo.int/copyright/en/activities/pdf/international_protection.pdf |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 02 Mar 13 - 12:56 PM See at end of article- ColumbiaRiverImages.com..... Copyright 2009, Lyn Topinka, English River Website. All rights reserved. "Images are NOT to be downloaded from this Website. February, 2013. |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: GUEST,Stim Date: 02 Mar 13 - 07:32 PM Not sure why that outburst was even relevant, Richard, since MG, Ebbie, SRS, the Columbia River, and most of the salmon are residents of the US. |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: mg Date: 02 Mar 13 - 10:21 PM i wasn'[t about to download any of her images..could walk out my door and take similar pictures. and i have never heard of english river..maybe it's in oregon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: gnomad Date: 03 Mar 13 - 05:35 AM Given your intended purpose, it seems to me that it might be safest to design your own can label, perhaps borrowing design elements from the old cans but not actual images. It would clearly be more work than simply copying a label, but you could save in the long run. Come to think of it you might even incorporate some of the text you want on the CD as part of the small print on the can. Like you mg, I am dubious about using anything which I cannot prove is out of copyright, and there may also be a question of trade names involved. |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 03 Mar 13 - 12:55 PM Lyn Topinka has copyright on his article and the images he provided. That is clearly stated at the conclusion of the web entry. |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: GUEST,mg Date: 03 Mar 13 - 04:10 PM I have no idea what you are referring to. I am in no danger of copying any images from him or her. |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 03 Mar 13 - 09:42 PM mg, I thought that you were referring to the labels and article found by googling "salmon label columbia river." The illustrated labels and the article are copyright by Lyn Topinka. |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: GUEST Date: 04 Mar 13 - 03:50 PM There could be a registered trademark and also intellectual property of the graphic artist involved, that the company possibly owns also. If you are engaging in a commercial venture and using it, it would be good to check, or you could face later costs. Art is a weird area (not sure if it is extended to commercial art). Even if you purchase a piece of art, the artist can still retain some rights over any changes to the art and uses beyond you just enjoying it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: GUEST,mg Date: 30 Mar 13 - 02:56 AM I googled a salmon label and cut and paste it into a mockup of the cd cover..it won't be used. But today I met a friend who deals with the labels, said she literally might have millions..she brought three framed labels with her and one was a relative of the one I had googled. It has lots of red background, gold in it etc.n I will scan it and get a rough copy if anyone wants to look at it. Anyway, it is for Star brnd and for Chinook salmon. There is a star and a a picture of what looks like Astoria. That is the left side. The right side has the obligatory salmon and says Eureka WA. I googled Eureka and it is on the columbia..i grew up on the columbia and do not remember ever hearing of it. Star brand was sold in 1892 to columbia packers. My friend swears there are no copyright issues, but i iwll check with a couple of local museum people and then just go ahead and use it if i can't find out someone owns copyright. |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: Ed T Date: 30 Mar 13 - 08:21 AM There is reference to a Eureka Cannery on this site, fyi. Columbia River Salmon Canneries |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 30 Mar 13 - 12:59 PM Digression- White Star was one of the larger canneries in the Pacific Northwest (Oregon-based). The Oregon state archives has some illustrations of old Columbia River cannery labels on their website. |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: Jack the Sailor Date: 30 Mar 13 - 01:12 PM It sounds as though it may be easier to make your own label than to secure the rights to someone else's. Put your information and title where the writing on the can goes... Just saying. |
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Subject: RE: BS: copyrights on salmon labels From: Greg F. Date: 30 Mar 13 - 05:25 PM Let it go, gang...... no point. |
