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Subject: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: gnu Date: 13 Feb 13 - 07:02 PM Some guys can sell snow to an Eskimo (Innu... sorry). Like the guy at Future Shit (futureshop.ca) up the street. Bought a new laptop and he started pitching me accessories. He sold me a super power cable. Laptop cable. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 13 Feb 13 - 07:19 PM So, you bought a 208V 50A laptop, huh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: gnu Date: 13 Feb 13 - 07:33 PM When I buy new, I buy top of the line stuff. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Ebbie Date: 13 Feb 13 - 07:41 PM Salesman's purfling? That's a new one to me. I like the purfling on my guitar though. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Bill D Date: 13 Feb 13 - 07:49 PM Nice at home, but when you travel, you need a battery |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 13 Feb 13 - 08:03 PM Well Gnu, that looks more like a mooring cable for a cabin cruiser than a connection for a laptop. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: JohnInKansas Date: 13 Feb 13 - 08:17 PM Looks like a 20A or maybe 30A connector to me, but the wire size is a little on the hefty side for one so short. Could be AWG 10 (The picture's a little fuzzy to read the markings.), but that wouldn't be necessary unless you're more than 100 ft from the outlet, so what d'ya plug into that one to go the rest of the way to the laptop? If you really need to plug in back in the house to use the laptop in the South 40, you'd likely want at least AWG8 and twistlok plugs just to keep the voltage drop under control and make sure the connections stayed tight. I generally carried 350 ft of AWG10 when we went to festival, and used it all on lots of trips, just to get 30A to the camper so she could use her toaster while the AC was running. (Still had to turn off the AC to use the Microwave.) Just glad I got it all before the copper barons inflated the price to current levels. Of course if your new laptop is the portable version of an ENIAC (which - since it's gnu - wouldn't really surprise me?) those vacuum tubes, at least in the floor model, sucked a whole bunch of juice and needed big wire even if it was short. Best guess is that the hefty cable is necessary because the laptop won't run without the beer cooler next to it. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: gnu Date: 13 Feb 13 - 08:22 PM JiK... ya got it... I plug the beer cooler into a USB port for power. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: JohnInKansas Date: 13 Feb 13 - 08:23 PM Bill D - Ya call that a battery. Gnu & I call THIS a portable battery. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Bobert Date: 13 Feb 13 - 08:42 PM Ya' see... When you have someone with some serious BS - I'm talkin' the heavy duty USDA Choice BS - you can't just use any tension cord... Nope, you need something serious to get the BS thru the wires... I mean, what??? You wanta clog up yer wires??? Huh??? Answer me that one, will ya'??? I been in that kinda BS a couple times in my life... Boots take a beatin'... You step in it and it tries to such the boot right off yer foot... That's some serious BS... You think you can do that with a lamp cord??? Haha... Ain't gonna happen... Good choice, gn-ze... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: gnu Date: 13 Feb 13 - 08:44 PM My portable battery. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Bobert Date: 13 Feb 13 - 09:19 PM Ummmmm, that's a generator, Gn-ze... Not a bettery... The "Honda engine" is the clue... Don't try to pull one over on me... I know which end of the flashlight makes light!!! B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: gnu Date: 13 Feb 13 - 09:38 PM Beats the shit outta yer battery eh Bobert? She a slobber knocker*... power the whole house fer lights and heat and TV and such. No water heater er lectric stove er such. In the summer, she'll run the AC and the same others. Use the nuke fer reheatin stuff outta the freezer summer er winter. Or cook on my BBQs an portable propane stoves. *Educate me if I have used that incorrectly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: frogprince Date: 13 Feb 13 - 09:43 PM LOL. I didn't see the link and picture in gnu's original post, and got down the thread a little before I caught on and looked; about had to clean out my jeans. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 13 Feb 13 - 09:53 PM I agree 100% with Bobert. For most efficient transferal of massive amounts of BS, you shouldn't use a plugged-in cord of any kind on your laptop. You should hard-wire that sucker right into a dedicated circuit. The amount of BS transmitted through a laptop by a Mudcatter in full BS transmission mode places about the same stress on a circuit as does an electric pottery kiln operating at 2250°F (1232°C). As owner of several such kilns, I've learned that plugs and outlets tend to corrode, melt, overheat, and start fires. So, I treat my laptops just like my kilns: direct hard-wired using AWG6 cable. Sure, it makes them a little less portable, but it's better than having them melt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Bill D Date: 13 Feb 13 - 09:55 PM Yeah John... I looked for a picture like that, but **Google** is getting mean! They wouldn't load ANY pics without enabling javascript, and only the 1st 7-8 with js enabled. I didn't bother to try 4 more browsers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: JohnInKansas Date: 14 Feb 13 - 12:01 AM Google is a little upset over their latest bug report. It has a simple input requirement to get what looks like a real answer, but with only one "correct" hit and all the rest of the returns going to porn sites. First reports were a couple of days ago, so the curiosity seekers (or maybe the porn seekers) probably have overloaded their servers. WARNING: DON'T search for -4^(1/4) on Google - until they get it fixed. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 14 Feb 13 - 09:35 AM Gnu, it says right on the webpage that that 'battery' they sold you is an inverter. How are you going to type on your laptop after the inverter turns it upside down? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: GUEST,999 Date: 14 Feb 13 - 09:47 AM "He sold me a super power cable." I'm opting for one of these because ya get the desk with it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Jeri Date: 14 Feb 13 - 10:17 AM Those things aren't desks. There's no place for your knees to go. They're coffee table hamster cages. Once you've stapled the screen around them, anyway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Rog Peek Date: 14 Feb 13 - 11:34 AM Oh Gnu! Thank you so much for this thread, I was starting to think Mudcat was getting a bit dull and boring! Rog |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Bobert Date: 14 Feb 13 - 01:03 PM Sorry, Gn-ze, but "slobber knocker" doesn't mean tough... It's polite for clusterfuck... As for generators??? I gotta a 6.5KW... I back-feed it to the main panel with #6 wire thru a sub-panel... It's not really the best way to do it but it works... Ya' just have to be sure to turn the main breaker in the main panel "off" or when the power comes back on it will cook yer generator in a matter of a mill-second... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: frogprince Date: 14 Feb 13 - 04:09 PM "They're coffee table hamster cages" Jeri, are you sure that pet of your is a hamster?. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 15 Feb 13 - 12:02 PM Yes, Jeri. If your hamster popped up in your backyard on Feb 2nd, you may have a little problem. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 15 Feb 13 - 03:43 PM Salesman's Puffing and the lady cashier is panting! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffingle From: gnu Date: 15 Feb 13 - 09:40 PM leeneia.... upside downy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: JohnInKansas Date: 16 Feb 13 - 06:11 AM Actually, those make a fair picnic table and could be used for a cage, but they'd be best for an exercise wheel for Kansas hamsters once you wrap the screen around 'em and stick a pipe through the middle hole. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: gnu Date: 16 Feb 13 - 06:51 AM Bobert... that's against code here. You have to have a fail-safe disconnect between the main and sub (emergency) panels. That is, the sub is either powered by the main entrance or by the generator. It precludes the case which you describe. This prevents injury (death) to anyone working on the power feed. Of course, even with this requirement, one should open the main entrance and turn off all breakers on the main panel so that full load is not placed on the main entrance when it is closed after power is restored to it. In my case, it really isn't required as the main entrance and panel are comfortably oversized (200A with max full load of about 75%... that's an offhanded guess - never really added it up). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Bobert Date: 16 Feb 13 - 09:11 AM It's against code here, too, gn-ze, but it's perfectly safe as long as the line voltage is shut off at the main breaker... And I know that I can't run everything, especially the heat pump or electric stove... But in a pinch it will keep the frige, freezer a couple light and the TV going just fine... In the past I've always connected it correctly with a teeter-totter switch that makes it only possible to have line or gen voltage but no way to have both... That involved the electric company shutting you off, an inspection and then a reconnect... No thanks... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: gnu Date: 17 Feb 13 - 06:46 AM Oh yeah... I recall we had this discussion a long time ago. Last month or so, maybe. >;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Bobert Date: 17 Feb 13 - 09:57 AM Yeah, my how time flies when senility sets in... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: Jack the Sailor Date: 17 Feb 13 - 01:39 PM I told you to go to Wally World Gnu. You could have put that money into beer! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Salesman's Puffing From: gnu Date: 17 Feb 13 - 01:47 PM Wallytarts ain't got the gear that Future Shit has. Speaking a that there. Asked nephew the geek to price a 125' Cat5 cable from his buddy. $60+tax. Got a combo comin tomorrow from FS for $38.98. It will work even better (more convenient setup). Plus I got a chance at $500 in the sweepstakes. |
