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Subject: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: GUEST,Futwick Date: 27 Jan 13 - 03:59 PM So do you think Mudcat is a karass or a granfalloon? Are the members bound together for a cause or just a meaningless association of stuppas? If you thought of Mudcat as a karass but after some reflection are forced to conclude that it is a granfalloon, how does that affect your continued participation? If we, as a whole, decide Mudcat is a granfalloon, could we make it into a karass if we desired? How would we do that? How do we each become a finger in the cradle? The tenets of Bokononism would hold that we must have two wampeters--one waxing and one waning. We express these wampeters in the form of foma. Foma are harmless fictions that help us get through life. Foma are written in the form of calypsos. So what foma do you use to cope with life? Express them as calypso. Just a couple of lines. You can add more later. I am the eyes and ears of the Lord I am all the universe can afford And when I go someday to my grave All my data must be saved Although I wrote it with a different melody, you can sing it to the tune of that old Jimmy Soul song. Now all you griots, join in! Here we go! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: MartinRyan Date: 27 Jan 13 - 04:24 PM Who dat? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: gnu Date: 27 Jan 13 - 04:39 PM I agree and I disagree. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: selby Date: 27 Jan 13 - 04:41 PM If you wish to study a granfalloon, just remove the skin of a toy balloon. — Bokonon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Bill D Date: 27 Jan 13 - 05:03 PM Mudcat is a conceptual wampeter. 'It' is a series of 1s & 0s that lives in a couple of computers under a table in Pennsylvania.... but many, many people lives are connected and ruled by it. Since the owner of those computers... Max... has been identified as God (and self-proclaimed at least once), members can be considered a self-perpetuating karass...but not a grandfallon, as their identity depends on their renewable 'cookie'.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Ed T Date: 27 Jan 13 - 05:08 PM Mudcat is a karass of music and BS information, within the internet granfalloon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Charmion Date: 27 Jan 13 - 05:11 PM You people are so literary it hurts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: gnu Date: 27 Jan 13 - 05:15 PM I always thought Kurt hurt anyway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Ed T Date: 27 Jan 13 - 05:24 PM "Researchers found that people with long last names tend to be more neurotic, perhaps because "a lifetime of having one's long last name misspelled may lead to a person expressing more anxiety and quickness to anger," according to a study, presented at the Computer Human Interaction conference in Vancouver." This, so called research, makes me wonder, does size matter in mudcatland names? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Ed T Date: 27 Jan 13 - 05:36 PM "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way." —Cat's Cradle, 1963 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Ed T Date: 27 Jan 13 - 05:39 PM "Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand." - Cat's Cradle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Ebbie Date: 27 Jan 13 - 05:52 PM I am enjoying this thread but I understand scarcely a word. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: GUEST,999 Date: 27 Jan 13 - 08:43 PM Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Bill D Date: 27 Jan 13 - 09:09 PM How high? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Ed T Date: 27 Jan 13 - 09:42 PM The true purpose of Mudcat revealed: "Live by the foma that make you brave and kind and healthy and happy." Do I detect a wrang-wrang? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: GUEST,Futwick Date: 27 Jan 13 - 10:30 PM Anybody remember "Nice, Nice, Very Nice" by Ambrosia from around '75 or '76? The lyrics were the 53rd Calypso of Bokononism. Oh a sleeping drunkard up in central park Or the lion hunter in the jungle dark Or the chinese dentist or the british queen They all fit together in the same machine Nice, nice, very nice Nice, nice, very nice So many people in the same device Oh a whirling dervish and a dancing bear Or a ginger rogers and a fred astaire Or a teenage rocker or the girls in france Yes, we all are partners in this cosmic dance Nice, nice, very nice Nice, nice, very nice So many people in the same device I wanted all things to make sense So we'd be happy instead of tense Oh a sleeping drunkard up in central park Or the lion hunter in the jungle dark Or the chinese dentist or the british queen They all fit together in the same machine Nice, nice, very nice Nice, nice, very nice So many people in the same device So many people in the same device |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: GUEST Date: 27 Jan 13 - 10:43 PM A test question ...to determin MC tax status....profit or charity. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Amos Date: 27 Jan 13 - 11:55 PM Definitely a karass; from "Cat's Cradle", followers of Bokonon use the term to describe avgroup of people linked in a cosmically significant manner, even when superficial linkages are not evident. Created by Kurt Vonnegut. Definitely not a granfallooon: granfalloon, in the fictional religion of Bokononism (created by Kurt Vonnegut in his 1963 novel Cat's Cradle), is defined as a "false karass." That is, it is a group of people who outwardly choose or claim to have a shared identity or purpose, but whose mutual association is actually meaningless. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Ed T Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:08 AM "Artists use frauds to make human beings seem more wonderful than they really are. Dancers show us human beings who move much more gracefully than human beings really move. Films and books and plays show us people talking much more entertainingly than people really talk, make paltry human enterprises seem important. Singers and musicians show us human beings making sounds far more lovely than human beings really make. Architects give us temples in which something marvelous is obviously going on. Actually, practically nothing is going on." K. Vonnegut —"When I Was Twenty-One," Wampeters, Foma and Granfalloons, 1974 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Bill D Date: 28 Jan 13 - 12:30 PM "Actually, practically nothing is going on." Garfield the cat is lying on his back in bed, eyes closed. Jon Arbuckle appears and declaims: "We're going to change the way we do things around here!" Thought bubble appears over Garfield's head: "WHOA! ... We DO things around here?" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: JohnInKansas Date: 28 Jan 13 - 01:34 PM For those who haven't read anything imginative since 1963, this List of Terms might be helpful. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Ed T Date: 28 Jan 13 - 01:41 PM ""For those who haven't read anything imginative since 1963,"" I read parts of the Warren Commission report. Does that count? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: Bill D Date: 28 Jan 13 - 03:29 PM Heck.. *I* read parts of the Republican party's platform! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: JohnInKansas Date: 28 Jan 13 - 03:43 PM Ed T - it was mostly fiction, wasn't it? Bill D - Sorry, that's just fantasy. Different genre. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Building a Mudcat's Cradle From: gnu Date: 28 Jan 13 - 07:50 PM hehehehehehee... youse do make me laugh. Thanks for that. |
