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Subject: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: Ed T Date: 24 Jan 13 - 09:01 PM First we learn this week from Austrailian researchers that eregular use of aspirin may cause vision issues: Regular aspirin use tied to age-related vision loss Then we learn about issues related to fish oil pills: ""Eating healthy food, versus attempts to "balance" omega-6 levels with omega-3 supplements may be damaging their health... There is no magic pill that fixes a bad diet... Fish-oil supplements may do more harm than good, UBC researcher finds."" More harm than good Could just eating good healthy food become the next health craze? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: gnu Date: 24 Jan 13 - 09:05 PM Hahahaha! Worked fer Mum. Good food and regular exercise. Crap! I am screwed! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: Charmion Date: 24 Jan 13 - 09:06 PM We can only hope, Ed. I can hardly wait for the frantic rush to veggie bins at Loblaws. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: kendall Date: 25 Jan 13 - 07:32 AM My Doctor took me off Gemfibrozil and put me on Fish oil caps. My triglycerides dropped dramatically.Cholesterol also dropped. Thats all I need to continue. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: Ed T Date: 25 Jan 13 - 07:44 AM ""My Doctor took me off Gemfibrozil and put me on Fish oil caps. My triglycerides dropped dramatically.Cholesterol also dropped"" I wonder if eating wild pelagic fish (with beneficial oils) would have had the same impact, without the potential longer term issues, asnoted in the research? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 25 Jan 13 - 08:49 AM Part of the problem generally is that media reports hype both possible benefits and possible harmful effects of everything, and often on the basis of just one or two studies. It keeps you watching, reading, and clicking. Now Dr. James Watson, co-discoverer of DNA, suggests that so-called "antioxidants" may be just as likely to cause cancer as to prevent it. I remember when beta carotene was being touted everywhere as a safe, supereffective cancer-preventer. When they got around to doing a significant study, the findings were so godawful they called it off in the middle. Extra beta carotene seemed to offer little benefit to anyone - and, if you were a smoker, it seemed to shoot your susceptibility to lung cancer sky high. Maybe extra selenium would work instead? Those studies, as far as I know, were disappointing or inconclusive. How about calcium supplements? Turns out they do work against bone fractures (really important when you're old), but they can also lead to a much increased risk of heart attack (even more important?). Ask your doctor. At least he's likely to err on the side of caution. It's starting to like like the best things you can do are: 1. Maximize the fruits veggies, and avoid processed foods as much as possible - especially processed meats and sugary drinks. 2. Stand on your feet as much as you can and get some regular, moderate exercise. 3. Don't get too fat. 4. Don't get too lonely. 5. Absolutely don't smoke. Beyond that, it may all just be fine-tuning. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: kendall Date: 25 Jan 13 - 09:37 AM Get away from sugar and fat. It's that simple. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 25 Jan 13 - 01:43 PM Use plenty of Demerara sugar on your morning breakfast cereal. Eat a Reese peanut butter cup every day or a chocolate truffle or three. A single malt or tequila anejo at bedtime. Age 90. Ignore TV advice (see Lighter, above). Follow your doctor's advice with regard to supplements. People vary in their needs. Here in Calgary (long winter, little sun), doctor's recommend Vitamin D supplement (1000-2000 units/day). Not needed in the sunny south unless you stay indoors all day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: kendall Date: 25 Jan 13 - 03:07 PM Vitamin D is vital if you are on prednisone. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 25 Jan 13 - 03:19 PM I think your genes have a lot to do with living long. I too am sick of the "Eat this!" "No don't, it's bad for you!" science research reports. It seems obvious that eating a balanced diet is the sensible thing to do, unless you have a specific problem correctly diagnosed by a doctor. BUT... my parents never smoked, ate plenty of allotment-grown fruit and vegetables and nourishing meals cooked from scratch, and a lot of herrings & mackerel. They exercised because they didn't have a car and either walked or cycled everywhere. They played tennis and swam. But they both died at 76, not all that old. My grandad (a Geordie) however, smoked eighty roll-up ciggies a day, lived on pies and bread-and-marge and drank gallons of Newcastle ale. He spent all his time sitting in the smoke-filled pub or down the racetrack, betting. He died at 87, which is a good innings. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: Ed T Date: 25 Jan 13 - 07:30 PM Some folks have always lived much longer than others, with no clear reasons for it, though some have tried to attribute such longevity to "wild and weird" things. No pill-supplement-food craze is a recipe for sure health, regardless of how much they are marketed as such. Maybe our grandparents frequently ate bacon fat on their potatoes and lived long - but, was it the bacon fat of today, with all the additives? Research does not provide all the answers. But, marketing campaigns,and wild claims, regardless of where they come from hardly do much better. We may have a "best before date, and genes may be a big factor. But, surely something has been learned about healthy living,eating and a good attitude to add a bit of quality to our lives, longer in time, or less so? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: Stilly River Sage Date: 26 Jan 13 - 01:56 AM Get away from sugar and fat. It's that simple. Actually, you're better off staying away from sugar and carbs. The fat gets a bad rap more often than not. Anything in excess is bad for you, even things that might otherwise be good for you. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: kendall Date: 26 Jan 13 - 06:10 AM I also think genes has a lot to do with longevity.All of my ancestors lived longer than they should have, 90, 100 plus. They had to shoot my grandmother to start a graveyard. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: GUEST,Patsy Date: 26 Jan 13 - 02:08 PM We know a lot more about what is good for us and what is not, my parent in their 80s and 90s are healthier now than they have ever been with their acceptance of healthier eating, salt reduction, less fat etc. I'm quite happy taking the cod liver caps every day and it seems to be having an effect keeping colds at bay which can only be a good thing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 26 Jan 13 - 02:14 PM Hello there Patsy! What worries me about the future for many people in the West is the sheer number of obese/extremely obese folk who are still relatively young and probably won't live to be much older! It isn't about whether they should or shouldn't take supplements, it's about whether they can overcome their addiction to high-calorie junk food and give themselves and their chunky children a chance. I admit I too am a bit plump (though not obese in the true sense) so I include myself in this! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: Ed T Date: 26 Jan 13 - 04:38 PM Just a note, I don't believe the research I linked to refered to traditional "cod liver caps" but to the Omega 3 and Omega 6 supplement mixture (I believe the formerly popular Omega 9 addition to the supplements was removed a few years ago). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 26 Jan 13 - 04:50 PM Brilliant programme! All 3 parts are on Youtube now. 'The Men Who Made Us Fat - Part 1 (2&3 on youtube list to the side) The Corporate Food Bastards create food which acts on different parts of our brains, making it hellishly difficult for many people to pull away from these kinds of foods.. It didn't start out that way, for the use of Corn Syrup merely started to save money, make more profit, but in fairness, they had no idea what the long-term outcome of that decision would be... Now though, many companies are fully aware what they're doing. And now, back to fish oil.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish oil pill benefits questioned From: Ed T Date: 26 Jan 13 - 05:07 PM From link below:""Time and time again research shows that a diet rich in a certain vitamin or nutrient is beneficial. But then people think "if you take a pill containing that ingredient, you'll be healthier, ... It doesn't work that way"" fish oil pills with omega-3 fatty acids It's odd that food additives face a higher standard of testing before being sold than the many supplements sold today. Assessing supplement safety |
