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Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please?
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Subject: Albion Band Docu - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST,Eliza Ruaes Date: 10 Jan 13 - 04:54 AM Hi, A BBC Arena documentary was made c1980 about The Albion Band, and although clips exist on youtube, I would like to locate it in an archive but do not have the full title. If anyone knows it - please can you reply?? Many thanks. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Docu - BBC - Help, please? From: RolyH Date: 10 Jan 13 - 07:49 AM It was simply called "The Albion Band" and was produced by BBC Bristol and the Bristol Arts Unit in 1980. I have a roughish copy on DVD if you are interested. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Docu - BBC - Help, please? From: Willa Date: 10 Jan 13 - 07:54 AM Try here http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/showcase/clips/p00ktw5l |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Docu - BBC - Help, please? From: nickp Date: 10 Jan 13 - 09:36 AM Willa has linked to an audio. Eliza is after a video - approx 1 hour I recall - which includes some excellent footage recorded at Reading Hexagon Theatre - also relying on a bad memory. I don't think she'll find it anywhere and will have to rely on kind peope like Roly. No doubt Bonzo3legs will be able to supply more info when he next looks at the 'Cat. I don't think that the BBC have an archive copy either - how shortsighted. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Docu - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 10 Jan 13 - 02:34 PM Hello all - thank you so very much. Indeed - I contacted the BBC in the hope they would be able to help but they were not even prepared to look, let alone consider allowing me to view it! RolyH - if there is any way that I could borrow your copy I would be eternally grateful.Can I email you?? Many thanks |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Docu - BBC - Help, please? From: RolyH Date: 10 Jan 13 - 03:06 PM Eliza. Email me at rolandsharrisonatgmaildotcom |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Docu - BBC - Help, please? From: Bonzo3legs Date: 10 Jan 13 - 04:07 PM I saw it in the National Sound Archive index when I last visited around 1991.......ah but that was 22 years ago!! You could give it a try. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Docu - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST,James Phillips Date: 21 Oct 22 - 05:38 PM Just to potentially complete this thread - is this the documentary in question? Albion Band Documentary |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Docu - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST,nickp (cookieless) Date: 22 Oct 22 - 12:10 PM Albion documentary on Youtube |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Docu - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST,nickp(cookieless) Date: 22 Oct 22 - 12:12 PM Crossposted. Yes that's it and I think that was taken from a recording I made - although that's not been uploaded by me. Nick |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Docu - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST,CJB Date: 22 Oct 22 - 12:14 PM Is it on Dimeadozen or maybe MVGroup.org ? |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Docu - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST Date: 22 Oct 22 - 12:37 PM Nothing on MVGroup, but Dimeadozen has these …. Folk Albion Band 2003-07-12 Villa Faccanoni - Sarnico, Italy (FM Audience DAT Master) EXC 0.00 KB/s 13 2022-08-20 Folk The Albion Band - Cropredy Festival 1983-08-13 aud 2nd Gen cassette - fresh transfer July 2022 0.00 KB/s 7 2022-07-02 Folk Albion Band - Horsham Arts Centre UK 1997-11-20 aud cassette master 0.00 KB/s 11 2022-06-30 Folk Albion Band Christmas Show - West End Arts Centre Aldershot, England 1984-12-17 reseed request from aud cassette masters 0.00 KB/s 6 2020-12-24 12:14:55 858.16 Folk Albion Band - Roskilde Festival 1983-10-07 Sbd 2nd Gen cassette, reseed request 0.00 KB/s 7 2020-12-14 Folk Albion Band session for BBC Radio Scotland FM "Travelling Folk" 1984-10-22 + other demos 0.00 KB/s 9 2019-03-24 Folk Albion Dance Band in Return of the Compleat Dancing Master, Bracknell Festival England 1984-07-14 cassette master reseed request 0.00 KB/s 8 2018-09-29 Folk Albion Band - 1978-04-28, Lark Rise, Cottesloe Theatre, Southbank, London, England - another brand new transfer from cassette copy of National Sound Archive master reels - FLAC 0.00 KB/s 14 2014-11-09 Folk BBC HOGMANAY 2006, 2004, 2003 DVD with Eddi Reader, Karine Polwart, Kate Rusby, Capercaillie, Roseanne Cash, Phil Cunningham & Aly Bain & many others 0.00 KB/s 12 2014-03-12 ==== Active uploaded UncleBoko might have the requested recording. ==== |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Docu - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST,CJB Date: 22 Oct 22 - 12:41 PM On the Albion Band uploads on YouTube post an appeal for a complete recording - someone might have one. Also put out a request on the Dimeadozen forum and mailing list. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST,CJB Date: 22 Oct 22 - 02:17 PM As an aside for decades the Copper Family have been after an Arena prog. from the early 1980s filmed in the Central Club at Peacehaven. No joy with the Beeb. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST,James Phillips Date: 22 Oct 22 - 03:06 PM How much more of the documentary is there? It seems weird that the YouTube title includes the word "full" when there are no intro or ending titles to prove that we're seeing all of it. IF what Nick said about it being about an hour long, I guess that upload is missing about 15 mins of it. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: Bonzo3legs Date: 22 Oct 22 - 04:52 PM The Bonnie Labouring Boy is missing sung by Martin Carthy and Shirley Collins towards the end. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST,nickp (cookieless) Date: 22 Oct 22 - 05:09 PM My copy is 44:43 and does have credits which continue after the end of the one listed above. My 'hour' as mentioned almost 10 years ago was from memory and even then that wasn't exactly reliable! |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: Bonzo3legs Date: 22 Oct 22 - 05:34 PM Here is Bonnie Labouring Boy |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST,CJB Date: 22 Oct 22 - 11:51 PM Here’s the Genome link to an Albion Band doco. on the Beeb. https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/a297bb2165194dacb35dd79908ee649d Is this the programme uploaded to YT? However it’s not an Arena programme. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST Date: 22 Oct 22 - 11:53 PM https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/a297bb2165194dacb35dd79908ee649d |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: Bonzo3legs Date: 23 Oct 22 - 04:02 AM Nick's 44 minute version does appear to be the full version as per Radio Times! I also remember one or two master tape traders in the 1980s referring to programme length of an hour. Source: Radio Times 20:15 The Albion Band BBC Two logo BBC Two Wed 17th Sep 1980, 20:15 on BBC Two England The second in a series of six programmes from the BBC's Bristol Arts Unit. Tonight, a film about a hugely-successful British rock band and its founder, Ashley Hutchings. The Albion Band are pioneers of a rock music drawn from the roots of the English pastoral tradition. This portrait of the band and its leader follows them to concerts, recordings, country dances and to the National Theatre, where they provided the music for the triumphant production of Larkrise. with comments from RICHARD THOMPSON , KEITH DEWHURST and ASHLEY HUTCHINGS Film editor PIP HEYWOOD Directed by DAVID HUTT and COLIN rose BBC Bristol Contributors Unknown: Ashley Hutchings. Unknown: Richard Thompson Unknown: Keith Dewhurst Directed By: David Hutt Source: Radio Times 21:00 M*A*S*H: B.J. Papa San BBC Two logo BBC Two Wed 17th Sep 1980, 21:00 on BBC Two England Given that life is a bit of an uphill battle anyway, it is not easy to answer a cry for help from another human being, especially during a war. But people who care still go on trying and this time it is B.J.'s turn. Contributors Writer: Larry Balmagia Director: James Sheldon Hawkeye: Alan Alda B.J. Hunnicutt: Mike Farrell Colonel Potter: Harry Morgan Radar: Gary Burghoff Hotlips: Loretta Swit Fr Mulcahy: William Christopher Klinger: Jamie Farr Major Charles Winchester: David Ogden Stiers Source: Radio Times |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST Date: 23 Oct 22 - 05:18 AM "The Bonnie Labouring Boy is missing sung by Martin Carthy and Shirley Collins towards the end"? It's there, just over 30 mins into the youtube video. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: Bonzo3legs Date: 23 Oct 22 - 05:38 AM Ah thanks, for some reason I thought it was at the end. No recordings have ever surfaced of The Albion River Hymn. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST,nickp (cookieless - new pc will log in again Date: 23 Oct 22 - 05:44 AM Yes, as the genome describes. I have it on excellent authority that much searching was done at the BBC - and probably still is - but no trace of a master found. I live in hope. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST Date: 23 Oct 22 - 08:05 AM "The Grand Circle Dance" tune used in Larkrise: is it traditional? |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: nickp Date: 24 Oct 22 - 04:54 AM (Aha, logged in at last!!) Yes, it's a morris tune. There's experts on Mudcat but to me it sounds like "Maid of the Mill" (although happy to be wrong. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: Harry Rivers Date: 24 Oct 22 - 10:21 AM Sounds like "William and Nancy" (Bledington tradition) to me. Harry |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST Date: 24 Oct 22 - 10:51 AM That's right, it is used for William and Nancy, and Ashley used it for a barn dance too. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: Bonzo3legs Date: 24 Oct 22 - 03:55 PM That's right, it is used for William and Nancy, and Ashley used it for a barn dance too. |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: GUEST,CJB Date: 25 Oct 22 - 04:18 AM There are a few different uploads to YT of the same film then? Please could folks add a list of links here (even clickies). Thanks. On the 1979 “Full Hour” version there’s a nice clip of Dartmoor step dancing right at the start. Like to see more of that!! Why was that included? |
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Subject: RE: Albion Band Documentary - BBC - Help, please? From: Bonzo3legs Date: 25 Oct 22 - 05:22 AM The chap dancing was Bob Cann, who Ashley included in his "Kicking Up The Sawdust Band" project. I saw them at the Theatre Royal in Stratford London around 1981. |
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