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Subject: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 02:04 AM What were you doing that day? How did it affect you? Do you think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone? Who do you think was behind it? =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 04:44 AM Abraham Lincoln...? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Jack Campin Date: 22 Nov 12 - 04:50 AM And the anniversary of this: the death of Aldous Huxley |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 04:51 AM The mob? The commies? The Klan? Nixon? The CIA? =(:-( 0) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 05:11 AM Perhaps it was like Murder on the Orient Express, they all did it! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Charmion Date: 22 Nov 12 - 06:10 AM 22 November is also the birthday of Charles de Gaule. Perspective, people; the rest of the world also has history. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Dead Horse Date: 22 Nov 12 - 06:21 AM So long as he is still dead, why worry? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 06:30 AM Will it ever happen again? It was an earthshaking event. =(:-( o) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: catspaw49 Date: 22 Nov 12 - 06:44 AM Do you ever look for existing threads? ......Obviously not...... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 06:48 AM How often does it fall on Thanksgiving? =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 07:01 AM You're right Henry....the turkey did it! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: kendall Date: 22 Nov 12 - 07:06 AM I was hanging storm windows with my Father in law. Shock and anger that any son of a bitch thought he had the right to kill our president. Charmion, many things happened on that day, some less important. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 07:11 AM I was just a little kid. I didn't understand it much. Mom said Oswald was crazy. No cartoons on TV for 3 weeks. All day every day news coverage. Funeral. =(:-( 0) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 07:14 AM Hinckley nearly pulled it off again. =(:-( o) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 08:02 AM Caroline must feel very sad today. =(:-( I) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,999 Date: 22 Nov 12 - 08:41 AM "How often does it [Nov 22] fall on Thanksgiving?" A better phrasing of the question would be "How often does Thanksgiving fall on November 22?" because November 22 is 'fixed' and Thanksgiving is not. 2012, 2018, 2029, 2035, 2040, 2046, 2057, 2063, 2068, 2074, 2085, 2091, 2096 When we look at those numbers we can easily see a pattern that will hold true until we once again re-adjust the calendar by having a double leap year--that is a leap year where there are TWO extra days added, but since that occurs only once every 10,000 years or so it need not affect this calculation. The pattern is easily discernible by noting the years between the above dates. The pattern is such: 6,11,6,5,6,11,6,5,6,11,6,5 and so on. A very simple calculation when compared to "Who put the bomp in the bomp shu bomp shu bomp?" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Charmion Date: 22 Nov 12 - 08:46 AM Thanks, Brucie9. I have always wished for an appropriate assessment of the challenge presented in the bomp-shu-bomp question. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: catspaw49 Date: 22 Nov 12 - 08:52 AM That would have been Fred Bandersnatch. He had an excess of bomps leftover from a celebration the previous week in honor of the Great Fartiste, Joseph Pujol, aka "Le Petomane." Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,999 Date: 22 Nov 12 - 09:35 AM I thank you both. Fred Bandersnatch, a name I will commit to memory. It answers a question that has plagued me for many decades. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Jeri Date: 22 Nov 12 - 09:41 AM AKA "Da Frub". At least, that's what they called him in the chess club. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Charley Noble Date: 22 Nov 12 - 10:22 AM Blackbeard also died this day. Hi, Henry! Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 10:30 AM Hi. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Steve Shaw Date: 22 Nov 12 - 10:33 AM I was a 12-year-old lad and I was in front of the telly at home in Radcliffe, Manchester. Scene At 6.30 was on. A few minutes into the programme, Mike Scott, the estimable presenter, interrupted his item to tell us in a halting, incredulous voice that news has just come in that President Kennedy had been shot. That was at about 6.35pm UK time. Granada TV was the first to break the news in the UK, I discovered later. http://www.transdiffusion.org/tv/tvheroes/mike_scott |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Bill D Date: 22 Nov 12 - 10:37 AM I was...chillingly.. in an American History class in college. I also had a paper route and had to deliver that news headline to over a hundred people. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Stringsinger Date: 22 Nov 12 - 10:48 AM The best account of the assassination of Kennedy is Lamar Waldron and Thom Hartmann's book, "Ultimate Sacrifice" (which should be made into a movie soon). He was killed by the mafia, Roselli tried and failed in Chicago, Trafficante, in Miami, and in Dallas, was done finally by Marcello in Dallas, who was Ruby's boss. Harvey was set up as a patsy. Marcello did it |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 11:09 AM I figured it was them. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 12:23 PM But what I can't figure out, Perry..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Jack Campin Date: 22 Nov 12 - 01:02 PM Happy 99th birthday Benjamin Britten. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,Gervase Date: 22 Nov 12 - 01:22 PM I was sitting under the kitchen table while my mother made marmalade, and I couldn't work out why she was crying so much (even though I was nearly five). Both my parents idolised JFK, and my mother was often told she looked like Jackie, which pleased her no end. Thankfully neither of them lived long enough to have their naive idealism dashed by what's now known about JFK. That said, history could have given us many far worse presidents. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: catspaw49 Date: 22 Nov 12 - 01:26 PM .....and indeed it did. Hayes, Harding, Millard Fillmore, etc...... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: kendall Date: 22 Nov 12 - 02:13 PM Franklin Pierce useless as a screen door in a submarine. William McKinley, in the pockets of the Robber barons. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,999 Date: 22 Nov 12 - 02:22 PM I have posted where I was in two previous threads on Kennedy's assassination/murder. I mean no disrespect to JFK or my American friends. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: John MacKenzie Date: 22 Nov 12 - 02:24 PM Today is the anniversary of the death of C S Lewis. known (ironically) to his family, as Jack. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Charmion Date: 22 Nov 12 - 02:37 PM 22 November 1963 was my Dad's 44th birthday. I was nine, in Grade 5 at Manotick Public School. The death of President Kennedy was the lead item on the CBC news that evening, in odd contrast with the orange-flavoured birthday cake provided -- as always -- by Granny. The first time I ever saw a television in school was for the funeral procession, of which I remember only the black horse and the backwards boots. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: John MacKenzie Date: 22 Nov 12 - 02:47 PM Yup, that's a very emotive image Charmian. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: pdq Date: 22 Nov 12 - 02:47 PM The Mob took out Kennedy because of the abuse they were subjected to by Bobby Kennedy, not JFK. I believe it was Marcella who was deported. Numerous Mobsters were verbally abused by Bobby at Senate hearings. They had to suck it up while the proceedings went on, but they were going to get even. Does anyone else think that the Dallas police pulled away from Oswald so they were out of harm's way when Ruby pulled the gun? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 03:11 PM Yes. They did. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,999 Date: 22 Nov 12 - 03:53 PM "Does anyone else think that the Dallas police pulled away from Oswald so they were out of harm's way when Ruby pulled the gun?" I watched the news (at the time) with that footage and other than pictures hanging from the walls of that underground area with choreography instructions, I don't know how anyone could NOT have seen that, pdq. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: pdq Date: 22 Nov 12 - 04:26 PM "...underground area with choreography instructions..." You don't suppose that the ballet lessons were given by Lyndon Johnson, do you? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: John MacKenzie Date: 22 Nov 12 - 04:38 PM Nah, Ron's boy took classes |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Stringsinger Date: 22 Nov 12 - 05:29 PM Carlos Marcello was not deported. He was sent to prison and died shortly afterward. Yes, JFK was killed because of RFK. This was Marcello's idea, "cut off the head of the snake". Ruby shot the patsy, pure and simple. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 22 Nov 12 - 05:36 PM For the loss to the world, Huxley's and Lewis' deaths meant much more, for they had accomplished much. To America (and to the world) Kennedy's was the death of promise unfulfilled, and that is the saddest death. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Greg F. Date: 22 Nov 12 - 05:50 PM "Who put the bomp in the bomp shu bomp shu bomp?" Who gives a shit, Bruce? Much more importantly, who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong? Espescially since Ding Dongs may soon be extinct. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: pdq Date: 22 Nov 12 - 05:52 PM Yes, Carlos Marcello was deported by Bobby Kennedy. It was a rude "grab 'n' go" type deportation that infuriated Marcello. I think he was born in Tunisia of Sicilian parents, but he held a Guatamalan passport. Bobby sent him to Guatamala. lots of info here |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,999 Date: 22 Nov 12 - 06:18 PM "Much more importantly, who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong?" Greg, this is the one time you have ever disappointed me. Bed Frandersnatch put the 'ram in the rama lama ding dong'. Spaw said so earlier in the thread. Sheesh, how many authors can a brilliant piece of writing have? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Greg F. Date: 22 Nov 12 - 06:26 PM Awright then, wise guy: Who put the dip in the dip da dip da dip?? Bet I gotcha there!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 06:30 PM You. You are the dipshit around here. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,999 Date: 22 Nov 12 - 06:32 PM Only for a moment. Bred Fandersnatch. I have that on good authority. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: gnu Date: 22 Nov 12 - 06:38 PM My but you are a wee testicle tonight. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,999 Date: 22 Nov 12 - 06:59 PM Henry, if you'd ever given Greg a chance to express his views, you'd see the man behind the posts. He is a well-read, lucid, intelligent man who has a great love of American literature and American history. He and I have been good friends for more years than I remember. He was encouraging to me at the lowest ebb of my life. I trust him without reservation. As a btw, a zinger to my old friend was interrupted by your post. That was just not a good thing to do. Capiche? I had the best set-up line in the history of Mudcat and now it's fucked. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 22 Nov 12 - 07:48 PM Dear me! =(:-( °) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,999 Date: 22 Nov 12 - 08:11 PM Yeah, dear you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: olddude Date: 22 Nov 12 - 09:54 PM Fifth grade, the nun came in and told us, we were all horrified. Never forget that day ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Bobert Date: 22 Nov 12 - 10:31 PM You a youngish old-dude, Olster... Me??? 11th grade... Mr. Cormeirs US Gov't 5th period class... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: ChanteyLass Date: 22 Nov 12 - 11:15 PM I was a high school sophomore in French 2 when a senior came into the classroom and whispered something to the teacher. Seniors in study hall had been pulled out to deliver the message to the teachers. Our French teacher was an eccentric woman. Normally I enjoy eccentric people, but this one was rude to students who struggled to learn French. Luckily, I was at least adequate in the subject so did not incur her wrath, but I disliked how she treated others. After the senior whispered to her, the teacher pulled a face and said, loud enough for all of us to hear, "In the head?" The senior nodded. Later the principal came on the intercom and told us what had happened and that we should all go to our lockers, get our things, and go home. A few students had cars. Some others took the city's public buses. Most of us walked. I remember feeling like I was in a fog for the entire walk home. As a teacher, I was on the other side of the desk when the Challenger shuttle exploded and when the World Trade Center was destroyed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,999 Date: 22 Nov 12 - 11:44 PM "As a teacher, I was on the other side of the desk when the Challenger shuttle exploded and when the World Trade Center was destroyed." Ditto, CL. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: ragdall Date: 23 Nov 12 - 12:20 AM I was in first year at college (in Canada) when the news came. They played the radio news over the P.A. system. Classes were cancelled for the remainder of the day. We all went home. Being sent home seems to be a common response to the event. I wonder why? Was there some directive that those in charge were following? Was there a fear that something worse was about to happen? rags |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST Date: 23 Nov 12 - 01:04 AM You know what! I don't give a fuck what you folks surmise and this and that about what happened. A good man went down and I look to my right just above my shoulder and see the man on my plate that has meant everything to me since it happened. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: kendall Date: 23 Nov 12 - 06:56 AM Define Good. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 23 Nov 12 - 07:14 AM That whole family. Creepy. =(:-( o) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,Another guest Date: 23 Nov 12 - 10:23 AM 'I look to my right just above my shoulder and see the man on my plate that has meant everything to me since it happened.' I had a plate like that once. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Stringsinger Date: 24 Nov 12 - 08:01 AM Carlos Marcello was not deported. There was a reporter that spent time with him while he was in jail and admitted to the assassination. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 24 Nov 12 - 08:15 AM It seems like a mob hit. They had to show how much power they had. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Ed T Date: 24 Nov 12 - 09:00 AM There are many folks who were not alive when this happened. I suspect in twenty years or so, the anniversary will be seen much like the assassination of other historic figures in the world. No one will be there to post their personal memories of when they heard it in the media. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: number 6 Date: 24 Nov 12 - 09:03 AM "The pattern is such: 6,11,6,5,6,11,6,5,6,11,6,5 and so on." Hmmmm don't blame me for putting the 'bomp' in the bomp shu bomp. biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: number 6 Date: 24 Nov 12 - 09:06 AM ... I wasn't even near the Brill Building that day. biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: LadyJean Date: 24 Nov 12 - 10:32 AM The private school we went to let out early on Fridays. The carpool mom of the day, pulled up and said to her daughter "Guess what?" The daughter said, "What?" her mother said, "The president's been shot!' I thought it was some kind of family in joke. I was mistaken. I was 8, when this was going on. My sister turned 7 on the day of his funeral. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 24 Nov 12 - 10:41 AM I wonder if the mob killed Bobby too. Was Sirhan another patsy? =(:-( o) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 24 Nov 12 - 10:37 PM Yea. I bet they killed Bobby too. =(:-( o) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Joe Offer Date: 24 Nov 12 - 11:19 PM This page says J.Edgar Hoover send Bobby and Jack Kennedy a constant stream of derogatory information about Martin Luther King, Jr., in an attempt to turn the Kennedys against King. We've all heard the stories about King and his marital infidelity and other issues - is it possible that these are all lies from J.Edgar Hoover? -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 25 Nov 12 - 02:04 AM Maybe J. Edgar killed Bobby? =(:-( o) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: kendall Date: 25 Nov 12 - 06:46 AM There is plenty of evidence that J.E. Hoover was a cross dressing, paranoid coward, and a glory seeker.Any agent that stood out got dumped. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: GUEST,Patsy Date: 25 Nov 12 - 09:55 AM Ironically the rock and pop scene was getting underway with a new freedom of thought and expression so it surprises me that as he was a bit of an icon more wasn't done to protect him. Standing and waving in an open top car wasn't the brightest thing to let him do. Perhaps the whole thing was set up from someone inside, which might explain how Oswald could be the lone killer if he indeed was the one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: Henry Krinkle Date: 25 Nov 12 - 09:59 AM I don't think Oswald was the killer. It was a pro job. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: pdq Date: 22 Nov 14 - 10:29 AM He may not have really been a "pro", but he did a lot of work for Lyndon Johnson: Malcolm "Mac" Wallace |
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Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing From: LadyJean Date: 22 Nov 14 - 09:49 PM I was going to a private girl's school with an alma mater that began, "In thy pillared portals" So the main entrance had to have pillars. I was outside those pillars. It was a Friday afternoon, and school let out early. Tghe carpool mother for the day pulled up. I don't remember who she was, but I'll always remember that she got out of the car and asked her daughter, "Guess what?" The daughter answered "What?" The mother said, "The president's been shot". I thought she was joking. All the way home we told each other that he was young and strong and he'd get better. Mother told us what last rites were. My sister's birthday is November 25. She often got it off from school, because of Thanksgiving. But never before or since on a Monday. Grandma and Grandaddy came early that day, so we could watch the funeral together. Odd to think, Grandma could remember McKinley's funeral, and Harding's, and Roosevelt's. (Note: McKinley was killed by an anarchist named Leon Cszogloz. Harding and Roosevelt died of natural causes.) Cszogloz, whose name I probably misspelled, acted alone, as did Charles Guiteau who shot James Garfield. I expect Oswald worked alone. |
