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Subject: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 05 Nov 12 - 01:54 PM Lovely story..... Well done lads! And to all the others still out there working their butts off to help mend broken places and broken people..... >>>>...."We come from a hard place to live" says Coach Pine. "Many of our elders go without heat, electricity and hot water every day, we know what is needed in situations like this." And so they did, clearing a complete basement of moldy sheet rock and rugs in 30 minutes. As they helped a Chinese husband and wife who barely spoke English the man turned and asked "Who are these people?" A Road Runner staff member replied, "They are American Indians, they come from a community which is the poorest place in America." The man replied "I am honored they would come to help me." Jeff Turning Heart said, "At first I was sad the race was cancelled but coming here and seeing all these people working together made me feel proud to be part of it. We know how to survive in desperate situations and have the skills to assist these people in need. I know I am stronger from this experience." The runners never imagined they would be coming to New York City to help another community in need but as One Spirit founder Jeri Baker said "These young people are now heroes in their community and an inspiration for our youth. That is what this trip was all about. I think that part of our mission was accomplished. There will be other races to run and goals to reach but helping people in need is priceless." We come from a hard place to live..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: Ebbie Date: 05 Nov 12 - 02:07 PM Great story. Bless their hearts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: Dead Horse Date: 05 Nov 12 - 03:55 PM Why is it only the Lacotans that are worth a mention? It clearly states in the interview that: "On Sunday morning Team One Spirit joined a few hundred other runners and climbed aboard a New York ferry heading toward one of the hardest hit boroughs in the city, Staten Island." So it was 'a few hundred' + five then? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 05 Nov 12 - 04:02 PM Well, 'dead horse' it *could* be that it's from 'Indian Country Today'.... Doh! smiley...and she slaps hand to forehead... I'm GLAD the Lakota were mentioned, not nearly enough stories about them all 'out there' and they're very proud of their young people doing this, so they have every right to write about them... Thanks for coming in and being so positive and kind...(not) Please, close the door on your way out and don't bother to come in again... Thank you... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: Dead Horse Date: 06 Nov 12 - 07:35 AM Touchy aint ya! I merely pointed out that it was a hell of a lot more than just five Lakotans. Get your head from out of your nether regions and read what I wrote again - instead of reading stuff into it. If you have trouble understanding the written word as against the spoken word, then you have no place posting to internet forums. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 06 Nov 12 - 09:03 AM Touchy? Nah.... I'm just used to dealing with Twerps....especially racist ones. By the way, the correct terminology is Lakota, not Lakotans. Thank you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: Stilly River Sage Date: 06 Nov 12 - 09:11 AM There are lots of appropriate terminologies for tribal groups, Lizzie, and he wasn't being a racist. Are there any downtrodden minority in the UK who get the same amount of coverage? It might be easier for you - any time you look at issues like this from afar, the Internet amounts to looking through a keyhole - you can only see a tiny fraction. Working on issues where you can actually be on the ground might be very rewarding. Just a thought. You wear your heart on your sleeve and clearly care about helping people - but some of this long distance activist stuff goes astray. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 06 Nov 12 - 10:34 AM No, Maggie, it doesn't go astray at all.... As you know, I run the Support Chief Raoni page too, and I can assure you that I've had many messages from Indigenous People thanking me for bringing their stories out to the world. Obviously I'm not the only person doing this, but I can assure you that many of them feel totally forgotten about... I also have many Native Americans on my page who have asked to come over to me, not the other way around... I have EVERY right to feel flamingly angry over what happened to them, and to Australia's Aboriginal people as well, for the British were very much to blame. I've had people on my page say they have changed their entire opinions about Indigenous Peoples since reading much of the information I put on there.... I know how deeply depressed and lost many of the Native Americans feel, and I won't ever stop shouting out on their behalf.... As for your comment about me doing something for similar 'downtrodden communities' in my country (????)...no, there are no similar communities, that is communities who have endured a Silent Holocaust against them, who have had their history written OUT of the history books, and who, to this day, are still facing covert genocide by the rulers of the very country which, to this day, still belongs to them. I find your remark deeply offensive.... Perhaps, rather than spend your time following me around Mudcat, telling me off, like a strict teacher would do with a wayward child, I would like to suggest that YOU take up their story, their fight, too, for goddamn it, so many of them are suffering in silence and most 'Americans' care shit about them! And now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to put some information on Raoni's page...and I am truly NOT in the best of moods after having a complete Numbskull come over to my page this morning, upset that *I* was upset at the photo on his page of him cosying up to Mr. Genocide himself, John McCain, who, but for a stroke of a few votes would have ended up as YOUR President, despite bringing Genocide to The Dine years back (watch 'The Broken Rainbow' on Youtube)..and who is now after the Navajo's water, wanting them to sign away their rights to their river for 'time immemorial' in exchange for having fresh water brought to their houses at long last. THEN he will let Peabody Coal (spit!) use their river for whatever they want... (!!!) Needless to say, The Navajo have told him where to stick his ideas.. The idiot on my FB page started to throw God at me, apparently is now praying for my evil soul, (oh, purleeeeeeze!) whilst cuddling up to Mr. Evil himself... Fook ALL those who screw the Native Americans and ALL Indigenous People, who are, right now, under attack globally as The Corporate Bastards and Corrupt Polliticians move in to steal the resources on their land.... And there is NOTHING wrong with putting this article in the BS section here, unless, it offends *some* people *purely* because it is about Native Americans....? I abide by the words in this song....I will never forget, nor let others forget! 'Michael Bucher - 'Don't Forget About Me' |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 06 Nov 12 - 11:00 AM We could all help. According to an article in my newspaper last week, 14 blood centers in the northeast are closed because of Superstorm Sandy. Blood is in short supply all over the country as a result. Call your local blood center and see if they can use your blood. Ot give money to the American Red Cross or the Salvation Army. You can donate online. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: gnu Date: 06 Nov 12 - 02:37 PM Excellent song, Lizzie. Thanks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 06 Nov 12 - 05:07 PM It was Russell Means who said we're all on the Reservation now...and how right he was.... The lyrics, gnu... DON'T FORGET ABOUT ME Lyrics and Music by Michael Bucher I'm the one who has painted on the rock in the desert sun I'm the one was buried with the small pox blanket on the run I'm the one who built my burial mound for all to see Never dreaming that the grave robbers' prize would be me And don't forget about me, I'm the voice singing in your head And don't forget about me, I told the stories that you have Don't forget about me, take notice of all they do 'Cos if they do it to me who's to say they won't do it to you? I'm the one who is buried with my heart at Wounded Knee I'm the one who was tossed in the ditch on the Trail of Tears I'm the one who was buried with my medicine bag in my hand Now my medicine is on display on some collector's stand Don't forget about me Don't forget about me I'm the one who has seen all the genocide first hand They couldn't cheat me fast enough take what I had And now they build their trophy houses right on top of my grave If they have no honor, than they have no shame And don't forget about me, I'm the voice singing in your head And don't forget about me, I told the stories that you have Don't forget about me, take notice of all they do If they do it to me who's to say they won't do it to you?" 26 Inspiring Images from Hurricane Sandy |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: ChanteyLass Date: 06 Nov 12 - 08:59 PM This story reminds me of how the Choctaw people sent what they could to the Irish during the famine. While in Ireland recently, at the beginning of the tour I asked the guide if he knew about that event. He did and said he would talk about it during another part of the tour, which he did when we got to the part of the country where The Long March was re-enacted every other year (alternating annually between Ireland and Oklahoma). I brought back a book from Ireland for each of my grands. Here is one. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2771431-the-long-march |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: GUEST,999 Date: 06 Nov 12 - 10:11 PM Lizzie, you go gal. I hate that expression, but check your e-mail for what I was gonna post. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: ollaimh Date: 07 Nov 12 - 12:21 AM i gotta say that people should call other ethnic groups what they want to be called and shut the f*** up when told how to properly address others. i've been through that s**t all my life on other issues but its the same, if anyone part of any ethnic group tells you what they like being called. follow their wishes. the genocide against natives in north america has almost no equal in the world. and most canadians and americans couldn't care less. i could list hundreds of illegalities and crimes that would make people blanch if they offured against any other people. however most north americans have a complete double standard towards natives. i really hope obama pardons the wrongfully convicted leonard peltier. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: GUEST,999 Date: 07 Nov 12 - 12:24 AM Don't hold your breath on that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: GUEST,Lizzie Date: 07 Nov 12 - 04:52 AM Thank you, Bruce... xx :0) Chantey Lass, I stumbled across the story of The Choctaw and the Irish a while back now. It brought tears.... I made this to help spread their story out. And there's a great song on there by Damian Dempsey, for the Choctaw still visit Ireland to this day, where they are honoured and thanked by the Irish for what they did....I hope you can see the link, as it's via Facebook: The Choctaw help The Irish on hearing they were starving.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 07 Nov 12 - 09:29 AM From the first post: "clearing a complete basement of moldy sheet rock and rugs in 30 minutes." Man, I wish I had that kind of co-ordination and energy. There are some good things about being young, I guess. Most of the time, I'm glad I was born when I was. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: ChanteyLass Date: 07 Nov 12 - 04:34 PM Thank you, Lizzie. I was able to see the FB post and liked reading the comments. I also followed the links, and one wonderful thing about YouTube is the links to other related videos. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: gnu Date: 07 Nov 12 - 05:26 PM Thanks for that link on The Choctaw/Irish. I will make sure that is available to as many Irish descendants in NB (and beyond - there are a lot of NBers all over NA but they still get the newsletter) as I can. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: ollaimh Date: 10 Nov 12 - 12:07 PM and i gotta say maggie the recycling the old american redneck position "we don't want no out side agitators" is about as low as it gets. yes the english have a lot to answer for in the gaelic world, but there is no abuse in history to comare the the genocide against american natives, and it is on going. the american government still rules pine ridge reservation like a central american dictatorship and the murder of a quarter of a million mayan natives by the american suposted and armed rios mont regime in guatemala cries out for justice. and the effects of native land displacement are being fought right now. i could give hundreds of examples.(residential schools) you don't like those outside agitators? well do something at home to begin justice and respect for american natives. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Lakota Five & Hurricane Sandy From: GUEST,Stim Date: 10 Nov 12 - 01:22 PM The genocide against the american native population is hardly unique, ollaimh--consider the 6 million Jews, the 2 million Armenians, 800,000 Rwandans, 1.7 million Cambodians, and the tens of millions killed in the gulags and by the Communist Chinese. "Murder by Governement", of ethnic minorities, political opposition, and people who were simply in the way, was responsible for the deaths of up to 176 million people in the 20th century--more than all the battle deaths put together. |
