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Subject: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 02 Sep 12 - 09:43 AM Time to bust on the Dems and the DNC to remind them once again that the Fat Cats are busting on the 99%... In case ya'll watchin' it on the news I'll be the wiry old hillbilly beating on a white 5 gallon plastic drum... See ya... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Wesley S Date: 02 Sep 12 - 10:42 AM Can you narrow it down a little bit? How about you wear a Mudcat T-shirt? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 02 Sep 12 - 12:38 PM Unless you run a hospitality suite in a better hotel, vou can't hope to gain any delegate's ear. Have fun, Bobert. You might gain a little attention by getting arrested. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Rapparee Date: 02 Sep 12 - 12:58 PM Ooooooooooh...tear gas! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: gnu Date: 02 Sep 12 - 01:37 PM A smoke-in? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Lonesome EJ Date: 02 Sep 12 - 01:39 PM Gave Romney a pass and you're busting on Obama? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: GUEST,olddude Date: 02 Sep 12 - 01:43 PM Tell Bill and Hillary you are a friend of mine. I will get ya a free lunch |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Sep 12 - 02:08 PM I think he probably figures it's completely useless to try to get Romney's people to even listen, LEJ. Chongo says to say "Hi" to Hillary and Bill if you see 'em. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bill D Date: 02 Sep 12 - 02:21 PM New Awlins woulda been a 2 day drive in rain... Charlotte is just down the road. Watch which crowds you hang with, Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: dick greenhaus Date: 02 Sep 12 - 04:23 PM Does the Occupy movement have a policy director who selects the most pointless places to stage demonstrations? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 02 Sep 12 - 07:54 PM I am beat... The march ended up at least three miles moving at about 1 mph and I drummed almost the entire march in 92 degrees and extremely humid... Got home and went right to bed and didn't move for an hour... Still very tired but it was a blast... Met some real nice folks... One guy came up to me and said "Hey, I remember you... I made a video of Occupy Charlotte last fall and your are in it and lots of folks who have viewed it say they remembered you... Must a had a goober hangin' out my nose...lol... Very tired... The news tonight said that a lot of "older" protestors had to drop out... I made it and I feel it... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: ChanteyLass Date: 02 Sep 12 - 08:37 PM Hooray for you! You have stamina! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 02 Sep 12 - 09:07 PM BTW... The entire march once we made it to "up town" turned into a part atmosphere 'cause hundreds and hundreds of DNC delegates lined the street behind the portable fences and seemed to be enjoying the march and the entertainment... Musta been somethin' for them having just arrived in a strange city and here the street was closed in fron of their hotel with a couple thousand rowdy protesters... No one felt threatened even though the police way over re-acted with way too many cops... Way too many... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Sawzaw Date: 04 Sep 12 - 07:25 AM "I challenge you to find a real Occupier who supports either Romney or Obama." More Occupiers protest Democratic convention than RNCAbout a half a mile away from the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, more than 100 protesters affiliated with the Occupy Wall Street movement are camped out in tents and on sleeping pads in a sweltering local park.The protest turnout has already far exceeded that of Tampa, when the threat of a hurricane derailed East Coast activists' plans to come down by bus and camp out in a tent city they dubbed "Romneyville." Protests at the RNC were so sparse that the local police chief cancelled several planned press conferences that would have addressed the force's response to activists. The largest protest event only attracted 300 people, while a coalition of 1,000 Occupy and other protesters already squashed that record in a march on Sunday in Charlotte. Ryan Lash, an Occupier from Washington D.C., told Yahoo News on Monday that despite the group's bigger presence in Charlotte, the protesters equally dislike Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. "We don't like either side," the shirtless Lash said. "I challenge you to find a real Occupier who supports either Romney or Obama." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 04 Sep 12 - 07:59 AM See? I support Occupy. Not Romney. Not Prez al-Obama. No brag. Just fact. (:-( D)= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Richard Bridge Date: 04 Sep 12 - 08:01 AM Those who fail to vote leave the vote to others. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: GUEST,TIA Date: 04 Sep 12 - 08:26 AM So Sawzaw...did you just learn this about Occupy? Occupiers been saying this all along. Pay attention. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: GUEST,TIA Date: 04 Sep 12 - 08:27 AM PS Well done Bobert. Keep it up (as long as you can :) ) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 04 Sep 12 - 09:07 AM I find no problems being both an Occupier and one who will vote for Obama... The trickle down, unregulated plan has shown to be a complete failure... This weekend's demonstration was my 5th major one here in Charlotte and was as tiresome as any I have even been involved with... My arms still ache from drumming but... ...it's important that we don't give the Dems a pass because we know the Republicans don't give a shit about Occupy and the Dems do... We got a lot of thumbs up from the hundreds and hundreds of delegates... They are aware of the issues of income inequality and corruption of the Big Boys... We (the P-Vine went with me) were in Charlotte again yesterday for the festival and tour the art museums and it started to pour down rain and we ran for a parking deck and were huddled up inside with a number of delegates... The P-Vine mentioned to a couple that I had been there the day before as part of Occupy and these people were very supportive... Nice conversations... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Amos Date: 04 Sep 12 - 10:12 AM More protesters demonstrated at the DNC because they figured soeone would be awake andpay somne attention, Doodah. Or maybe because the Dems had the brains not to park in front of a hurricane? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Sep 12 - 11:30 AM Good work, Beaubear! SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 04 Sep 12 - 01:02 PM The youngin's did all the hard work, Magz... I mean, they pulled the entire demonstration, which BTW included over a dozen organizations, with a budget of $10.000... That was for permits, advertising, signs, shuttles, etc. etc.... My hat is off to them... These kids are out future and they are extremely smart... BTW, here's a funny story... I wasn't sure where we were supposed to go so some kids got on the train that I just knew were going so I tagged along with them... They were real nice kids... Anyway, one told me that they had come from Asheville, NC and were part of the UNC-Asheville SDS chapter... I said, "Cool, I was part of the 60's SDS" which they thought was cool and then I said "I knew 3 of the 'Chicago 7" to which they all looked at me with blank stares... Oh well??? lol... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 04 Sep 12 - 01:36 PM Which 3? Kukla, Fran, or Ollie? (:-( ))= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: katlaughing Date: 04 Sep 12 - 03:11 PM Bobert, it is a fine, fine thing you have done and I am proud to know ya. Thanks for being there!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 04 Sep 12 - 03:19 PM Proud to know you, Kat, too... But I don't need any thanks... I grew up with an activist mom (and later my dad who attended the Moratorium march in D.C.) so it's not really much of a decision to go down there... I should be down there today, too, but I'm playing music tonight so... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 04 Sep 12 - 03:35 PM So Bobert, were any of your pals in the Weather Underground? We need more folks like that. (:-( ))= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Don Firth Date: 04 Sep 12 - 03:58 PM Kukla, Fran, or Ollie? Yeah, that's probably still within Krinkle's intellectual grasp. Stretching it a bit, though. #### Wish I could be there with you, Bobert. But it's a kind of a long walk from up here in the Norse-weft. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: gnu Date: 04 Sep 12 - 04:20 PM I object to the implication but Hank's post made me laugh. A good joke is a good joke. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 04 Sep 12 - 04:48 PM Yeah, I knew some folks who were part of the Weather Underground, i.e. Weathermen... Big deal... If you were an anti-war activist back then you'd go to conferences where workshops were held... Everyone kinda knew everyone else... I also knew White Panthers, Black Panthers, SCLC, SOC, SCLC folks... There really wasn't this big difference between folks... Actually, thinking back, I only knew two the the 7... I met Abbie Hoffman in Phillie and Jerry Rubin in Charlottesville, Va... Also met William Kunstler in C-ville at the same conference... Like I said, hey, every was just regular people out there fighting to stop a stupid war and ism's... I never thought of any of it as a big deal... Now my trip to Ann Arbor was a different story as I spent two lousy days in a Detroit jail cell for no reason whats so ever other than cops could arrest you if they didn't like the way you looked... Detroit was a cool town... It's cops were assholes... Same with Philly's cop and Frank Russo was King Prick of all Chiefs of Police in America... That was one man who deserves a good ass whup... Seems that there has been at least one arrest in Charlotte today on Stonewall Street... Maybe more by now... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 04 Sep 12 - 05:30 PM I was just a kid. But I read Abbie's book til it fell to pieces. I loved it. But it was my older sister's. I didn't rip it off from the store. I stole it from her. (:-( ))= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 04 Sep 12 - 05:51 PM Abbie was cool... Kinda quiet really... I mean, person to person... I stood in line with him in Philly to get shook down for guns... He was either behind me or in front, I can't remember... Just a regular guy... Now for those who don't recall there was a "Chicago 8" also which included Bobby Seal of the Black Panther party... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 04 Sep 12 - 10:37 PM We met 40 or 50 Occupy Wilmington people. We picted the local BoA with them. I would say all of them will vote Democrat. They seem real enough to me. I support the Occupy Movement and the Dems. But for different reasons. I don't see a conflict. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 04 Sep 12 - 10:38 PM Glad you marched Bob! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 05 Sep 12 - 03:18 PM We had a few whacks, Jack... We even had a handful of Republican Tea Party "plants with slick, expensive signs that read, We want out country back" but everyone just ignored them... There was one group, The Socialist Workers, who seemed to hate everyone and everything... I recall them from the 60s... They would come to our Radical Student Union (SDS affiliate) meeting and try to divert our anti-war focus toward their little beefs and then call us say we were part of the establishment for not going along with what they wanted... Never happy... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: ChanteyLass Date: 05 Sep 12 - 04:05 PM I didn't know there was still an SDS! I was one of about ten members of the SDS Worker-Student Alliance at Rhode Island College. I never met anyone in the Weather Underground or the Chicago 7. I did know one member of the Progressive Labor Party. A few other SDS members considered joining the PLP but ultimately decided not to. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 05 Sep 12 - 04:10 PM Yeah, I was surprised to find that SDS is still around myself, C-Lass... I guess I kinda knew more folks because I was the "rector" (hated that term) of our chapter which meant I was up in D.C. for meetings about once a month... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 05 Sep 12 - 04:28 PM Did you ever meet Hanoi Jane? (:-( ))= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 05 Sep 12 - 04:31 PM Nah, but I'd sho nuff liked to have... A cheap motel room would have been just fine back then... Or the back seat of my VW bug... She was hot as a three dollar pistol... Ted Turner messed up... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Sawzaw Date: 05 Sep 12 - 07:00 PM Hey Bobert: Who was it that started that stupid ass war? Who ended it? Just askin' |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 05 Sep 12 - 07:18 PM I never thought she was that hot. She looks too much like Henry. Now Karen Black, she was hot. (:-( P)= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 05 Sep 12 - 07:19 PM That war was started by Ike and JFK... More by JFK who, BTW, was a tad too sensitive to being framed as a commie-lover by the Republican hawks... A month before his assassination he told his Chief of Staff that Nam was a bad idea and that after the '64 election he would pull out... He felt that if he pulled out before the '64 election he would be pounded by the McCrathy-ite Republicans as a commie-lover... As for who ended it??? Well, in the '68 campaign Richard Nixon said he had a "secret plan" for ending the Vietnam war... Well, it must have been so secret that he didn't even know it... Some 7 years later and 30,000 more Americans killed the US had to pull out because, contrary to Tin Foil Nation who to this very day think that US could have won that war if it had stayed, it was apparent that there was no victory to be had and that between the North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong the US was just going to continue down a losing path... Any other questions, Sawz??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 05 Sep 12 - 07:45 PM The Red Chinese helped our enemy there. And Nixon sucked up to them. And now all the jobs go there. Why buy their shoddy products? We'll all be speaking Chinese one day. Bastards. (:-( O)= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: gnu Date: 05 Sep 12 - 07:55 PM WTF is a RED Chinese? Good lord, that kind of name calling died long ago... I thought??? As for speaking Chinese, you should sign up for a course right away if that helps with your paranoia. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 05 Sep 12 - 08:02 PM I think he meant "red" as in "communism", Gn-ze... Yeah, it's outdated but that's about it... As for Nixon sucking up to the Chinese??? I think that is somewhat delusional... Nixon thought that if he opened up relations with the Chinese that it might help the US with trade and perhaps ending the war... His doing that was one of the few things that Nixon did that was the correct thing to do... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 05 Sep 12 - 08:11 PM Do you enjoy your crappy made in China crap that falls apart immediately after you buy it? And with no option to buy quality. It's all junk. Nixon was a traitor. In every way. (:-( o)= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 05 Sep 12 - 08:19 PM No, Krinkx, I don't... But if you look at the big picture, it has been somewhat good for both countries... Where I have problems is where American made goods have been outsourced but... ...there are some goods that the US shouldn't be involved in making... The problem is that Boss Hog, Inc. doesn't understand what we should be making and what the Chinese should be making... It comes down to the economic concept of folks producing what they can best produce... I mean... if we look at the US as a model with each state being a country... There is a reason why rice isn't produced in Arizona and why lobster come from Maine... In a perfect world that addresses a global economy if everyone did what they do best we would have a better world... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 05 Sep 12 - 08:28 PM We threw poor little Taiwan under the bus. If the Red Chinese attack Taiwan, our country will help the Reds. It makes my blood boil. I could just scream! (:-( O)= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 05 Sep 12 - 08:39 PM No, Krinkz... We didn't throw Taiwan under the bus... Over the years we have done lots of naval exercises with Taiwan to send a message to mainland China that it needed to leave Taiwan alone and between the diplomacy, the trade and the exercises we have been supportive of Taiwan... I mean, mainland could have taken Taiwan any time it wanted but it hasn't... No bus there... Guess again... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Don Firth Date: 05 Sep 12 - 08:59 PM The problem, Krinkle-baby, is that a lot of "Chinese crap" is not crap. Some of it is quite high quality. Case in point: when I bought my current computer, a Hewlett¬-Packard (good, solid American name) laptop with 17" screen, a half-terabyte hard-drive, a CD/DVD player-burner complete with "light-scribe," and all kinds of other nice bells and whistles, I was not aware that most Hewlett-Packards are made in China. My computer is top-quality. No complaints whatever. And I know of other Chinese products that are excellently constructed. So that "it's all crap" bit doesn't wash. I would buy American if the quality were comparable, but one often does not KNOW where a product is made. There are more American-made parts in a Toyota than there are in a Chevrolet. In fact, Toyota has several plants here in the U. S., employing American workers. I also own a Toyota. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Bobert Date: 05 Sep 12 - 09:09 PM Just don't buy their tools... Their steel ain't hard... It's soft... It bends to easily and breaks too easily... If ya want decent tools, buy American... If you want decent electronics, buy Chinese... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 06 Sep 12 - 02:49 AM Their steel is going to get someone killed. (:-( 0)= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Off to Occupy DNC Today... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 06 Sep 12 - 03:28 AM I've been buying these cheap Squier Strats. $25 -$40. I have 3 now. To sell at X-mas. Two are Indonesian. Pretty decent guitars made in the Cort factory there. One Chinese. Piece of junk. One fret shorter than the rest. The cheapest electronics I've ever seen on a guitar. Body cut strangely. Crap. I also bought a Yamaha classical. Very nice. Made in Taiwan. Tripled my money when I sold it 3 months later. I'm not impressed with Chinese products. Do you play Chinese guitars? I don't. Why would I want to? (:-( ))= |
