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Subject: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Georgiansilver Date: 01 Sep 12 - 04:37 PM It may seem a strange question to some... but who do you live your life for? You get one crack at it... only one performance with no rehearsals....... so who do you live it for... your girlfriend/wife/partner.... or yourself???????????? Tell me! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Sep 12 - 04:46 PM That is one hell of a big question. I'll PM you about it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: John MacKenzie Date: 01 Sep 12 - 04:49 PM I live it for me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Amos Date: 01 Sep 12 - 04:52 PM Depends on what you mean by Who, GS. It's an interesting and flexible word, you know. And even Jesus knew how big the scope is within a single Who when you start looking... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Sep 12 - 04:56 PM I think that Jesus probably understood exactly who one lives one's life for. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Ebbie Date: 01 Sep 12 - 05:16 PM Ah. I was feeling bad when I realized I'd have to admit that I was probably living it for myself, but when Amos brought up Jesus a biblical line came to me: Love thy neighbor as thyself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: John MacKenzie Date: 01 Sep 12 - 05:21 PM You cannot live other people's lives for them. Just ask any parent! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: gnu Date: 01 Sep 12 - 05:41 PM Wise words, John. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Beer Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:05 PM Probably the heaviest thread ever posted GS. I think I live for myself as well. But without a doubt, I live for others as well. My wife, children, grand child, brothers and sisters and friends. Adrien |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Don Firth Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:06 PM A good friend of mine of the Jewish persuasion had a small piece of paper in a picture frame on his living room wall with a saying in Hebrew. I asked him what it said. He told me that it was a saying of Rabbi Hillel, first century BCE. If I am not for myself, who am I?Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:31 PM Very very thought-provoking Georgiansilver. I live for God first. Then I try to be true to myself. Then I live for my fellow men and women, and I also live for wildlife and Nature. That's a tall order and I fail miserably a lot of the time. I suppose if I was expressing this in a moral philosophy sort of way, I'd say I lived for The Good. I gained much insight into all this from several nuns I've known over the years. If one clings to God and The Righteous Life, one is reasonably safe. But other, less ideal things drag one away at times (eg pleasure, money, greed, materialism, self-indulgence, excitement, sex etc etc) One can only try! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Bobert Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:53 PM Well, life is strange and filled with change... When I was 15 and playing on a championship baseball team I'd have to say it would have been my coach... Then it was... And then it was... I reckon that most of us are at that age where there are fewer laps in the windshield than in the rear view mirror and so, at least for me, the answer to that question has to be... ...the P-Vine... And I'd be perfectly willing to go the distance without that changing... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Georgiansilver Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:07 PM Personally I try my hardest to live my life... guided by the Holy Spirit... by God... but like so many other Christians I fail miserably. I get so much wrong and often say the wrong thing... I try to live for God but end up living for me, for God, if that makes sense...... I am too much of a 'human being' with thoughts other than those I should have to be a good Christian. However!!!!! I shall keep trying! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:16 PM I think it's natural to fail and falter. But the thing is to have the Ideal in ones mind and just head for it as best you can. I can be horribly selfish. After decades and decades of life, I still seem to have so much still to learn! I have this funny picture in my head of me arriving at the Pearly Gates at last, and God just shaking His head and saying "Oh dear! Oh dear!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Bobert Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:30 PM Kinda a trick question for those of us of Faith... Do we live for God and because of God??? Sure, we want to please Him but seein' as we are here at His insistence I think the best way to please Him is to live life much the way Jesus and the Father would have us do... The Holy Spirit??? Not so much... The Holy Spirit is more a messenger than a strings puller... So yeah... I want very much to please God and Jesus and my love here on this Earth, in this life, is how I best can do that... I'm stickin' with my answer: the P-Vine... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:34 PM Bobert, love is truly good. You can't go far wrong with that in your heart. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Henry Krinkle Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:56 PM I live for lust and lust for life. (:-( P)= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:59 PM Kree-gah! That's a real serious question, Geo-Silv. I gotta think carefully here... Well, in the first place, ya gotta take care of yerself, cos that is yer responsibility. So I am livin' for myself in that sense. On the other hand, ya gotta have ideals too or yer nothin' better than a dirty mango-stealer that would sell out his own ma at a moment's notice. I had the choice in fronta me when I landed in New York City of joinin' a criminal gang...the short cut to some illusory form of "security" and self-esteem....or workin' my way up into some position of social responsibility to my fellow apes, monkeys, and humans. For a brief time I flirted with petty crime. I did some bad things which I am real sorry about. But I woke up pretty quick and realized that if ya don't struggle for the greater good, yer life ain't worth a hill of beans. So I joined the forces of the law, and I have never looked back. For that I can thank Humphrey Bogart. He opened my eyes to the truth in them great movies he made. I have also always tried to treat females with maximum courtesy and appreciation, be they ape, monkey or human. I have trouble relatin' to dogs for some reason...mainly that they go nuts when they see me...but I am hopin' to reach a truce with 'em one of these days. Religiously speakin', I take my example from the tragic life and death of King Kong, an ape who was took from his natural home by treachery and force, subjected to public humiliation like a carnival freak, and gunned down by a brain-dead system that figgered he was just in their way. He died for all of us. I've also been readin' some about Jesus lately, and I see that he sacrificed himself too on behalf of all sufferin' people and did nothin' but good works while he was here on Earth. I gotta say I really admire that. I think people oughta find themselves a good role model like Jesus, Humphrey Bogart, or King Kong, and aim for the highest good they can. So...ultimately what we should be livin' for...and I try...is the highest Good that we are capable of understandin' and achievin'. - Chongo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Rapparee Date: 01 Sep 12 - 10:51 PM I once asked the question here "What Are You Willing To Die For?" This question is similar and so is the answer, as I see it anyway. If you can't answer both I think you haven't really explored yourself and what you believe in. Ecclesiastes 3:1-22. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 02 Sep 12 - 05:31 AM I've had a good think, and I'm afraid I wouldn't be willing to die for anyone or anything. I would cling to life at all costs. I suppose it's the natural instinct of survival. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: John MacKenzie Date: 02 Sep 12 - 05:52 AM To split hairs on this one. Being willing to die, smacks of fanaticism, whereas. Being prepared to die, speaks more of heroism. I am none of the above. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Megan L Date: 02 Sep 12 - 05:59 AM What my beliefs are, are personal to me they are deeply held but I refuse to impose them on the lives of others. I live because I am alive. If in the way I live my life I can help those around me live their lifes free from or in some way lessen pain, fear or need then I will do whatever I can to make that happen. I try to treat those around me with respect not because it is what I want them to show me but because it is who I am. If I can make them stop for a moment in a busy day and smile or laugh then it is a good day. I try to live my life without judgement. Sometimes i am saddedned or worried by something someone I care about does because I can see the danger it poses to their health or wellbeing but I refuse to judge them I choose to love them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Will Fly Date: 02 Sep 12 - 06:03 AM I've never "lived my life" consciously for anyone or anything. I live, from minute to minute and day to day, doing what seems right and proper on the minute and on the day. My family matters very much to me. Good friends matter very much to me. If they need love, help or support, they get all I can give. Music matters very much to me. Good food, good wine, good companionship, conviviality - all add to the mix. I am not and never have been religious - rejecting all that very firmly and for (to me) good reasons from a very early age. I would call myself a reasonably liberal humanist and atheist, with a slight tendency to sarcasm and whimsy when irritated by the world... :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: kendall Date: 02 Sep 12 - 06:51 AM I'm a Deist. I had nothing to do with being born, and I have no control over when or how I "snuff it". I live because it seems like the right thing to do. That being said, I also do my best to make my friends and relatives glad to have me in their lives.I also feel an obligation to leave the world better than I found it; thats probably why I became a conservation officer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: G-Force Date: 02 Sep 12 - 12:33 PM Well, being British, I live fifty percent of it for the taxman. The other fifty percent is for me and my good lady. Before you say 'what about other people?', see the first fifty percent. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Sep 12 - 02:25 PM There are certain people on whose behalf I would be willing to risk death, depending on the situation. Why? Well, I love them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link Date: 02 Sep 12 - 05:15 PM i should like to say that i live primarily for my God and Saviour but as the bible says "the heart is decietful...who can know it" so more acurrately i would say it is what i aim at. i do think that "love thy neighbour as thyself" is a single command not a double.the "as thyself" is a given; even though some, sadly, say that they hate themselves |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Charley Noble Date: 02 Sep 12 - 05:41 PM I continue to live so as to have some positive impact on my friends and family, whether they appreciate it or not. When they do appreciate what I do, it's a whole lot nicer! God has nothing to do with it, as far as I'm concerned. Neither does the Internal Revenue Service. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: gnu Date: 02 Sep 12 - 06:43 PM John... Megan... thanks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Elmore Date: 03 Sep 12 - 11:44 AM My wife. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Ebbie Date: 03 Sep 12 - 12:20 PM "I perceived that there is nothing better for them than to be joyful and to do good as long as they live; also that everyone should eat and drink and take pleasure in all his toil—this is God's gift to man." To my mind, the question would more easily be answered if it were:What do you live for. 'Who' is a trick question, not really answerable. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Bill D Date: 03 Sep 12 - 02:10 PM "Who" ...coming from Georgiansilver .....is an open invitation to make answers religious. You know in advance how he and a few others here would tend to answer. Some make their religious answers #1, some list it differently. \ I have not made a choice, as I basically agree with Ebbie. Even answering 'what' would take me several paragraphs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Amos Date: 03 Sep 12 - 03:19 PM I don't think there is a being alive who does not live, one way or another, for multiple dimensions. Everyone strives to keep a self going, most add a close relationship of some kind such as a spouse, children. There are few who do not identify with some group, a town or a club or a profession or a larger group like a sub-species, and put some effort into bringing about some good for it. There are probably a dozen other facets that are common to most humans, including, for example, physical possessions, other kinds of life, and so on. So I think the question as posed is a tawdry rhetorical device, pot-metal and paint, as far as moral or intellectual substance is concerned. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Georgiansilver Date: 03 Sep 12 - 03:56 PM BillD. You stated :->>>>>>"Who" ...coming from Georgiansilver .....is an open invitation to make answers religious. You know in advance how he and a few others here would tend to answer.<<<<<<. Looking at the way my original question was asked, how could you come to that assumption?...... In actual fact, when I was writing the question I was going through one of those times when I was recognising some of my own selfishness.. I still live too much for me and not for others...... that is what prompted the question. People who are Christian are not perfect but it won't stop me trying........ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: kendall Date: 03 Sep 12 - 04:07 PM I wish I was a believer, but alas,it seems so egotistical to think that there is an omnipotent being up there somewhere who needs humans to write his/her/its rules, and gives a damn for me or any other of its creations. I'm not knocking anyone Else's faith, I wish I could join you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Bill D Date: 03 Sep 12 - 04:33 PM " Looking at the way my original question was asked, how could you come to that assumption?.." I make that assumption based on the many posts you made several years ago. Your religious dedication was clear in most of you discussions. But I didn't comment until after your 2nd post in THIS thread, where you say: "Personally I try my hardest to live my life... guided by the Holy Spirit... by God..." and I did use the word "tend" in making my assumption. You DO say "In actual fact, when I was writing the question I was going through one of those times when I was recognising some of my own selfishness.. I still live too much for me and not for others...." and throughout that statement, based on what you have said many times, I see a reflection of your desire to replace YOUR desires and goals and behavior with what you consider to be God's will and commandments. From your viewpoint, as a religious person, I even see that as almost a necessary goal. I'm sure you would wish that non-believers would 'change', be 'saved' and develop goals and lives that reflect what YOU are quite sure is the 'true path'... so I answered in the way I did. Had a total stranger asked the question, *I* might have chimed in earlier. Asking yourself such questions can help you sort out feelings and perhaps even point you in new directions, but as you see, those who approach the issue from different directions do not even want to deal with the question phrased that way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Joe_F Date: 03 Sep 12 - 08:20 PM Nobody. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: gnu Date: 03 Sep 12 - 08:45 PM Ebbie.... yeah. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: michaelr Date: 03 Sep 12 - 09:03 PM I know better than to get into religious discussions, but I can't help but wonder how one "lives for God". What does that even mean? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Charley Noble Date: 03 Sep 12 - 10:05 PM So far no one has mentioned cigarets, whiskey, and wild, wild women. But I do appreciate what Kendall has said above. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Rob Naylor Date: 03 Sep 12 - 10:42 PM I'm with Will Fly here: I too live from day to day, and try to live as much as possible by the idea of "do as you would be done by". Friends, family and enjoying life are very important to me. I try and help people if they need it. I too rejected religion from an early age, but then spent a number of years looking into Christianity, Buddhism, Islam and other religions and philosophies....not sure whether I was looking for something to believe in or just confirming to myself (within the balance of probabilities) that my rejection of it was reasonable. I used to have great fun arguing with creationists on "talk.origins" but realised after the same fallacies had been knocked down dozens or hundreds of times that they would continue to spout stuff that had been shown to be rubbish for years, sometimes decades, after having been shown that it was wrong. So I stopped. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Bobert Date: 03 Sep 12 - 10:47 PM Not to sure who wrote this but... "If you go before me and we don't get a chance to say good bye I'll be coming right behind you So meet me in the south side of the sky" I don't much think that if I lost my wife, the P-Vine, I'd want to go on... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Amos Date: 03 Sep 12 - 11:09 PM God is a verb, born from within; to live "for" it is merely an effort to find one's highest perspectives and integraste one's consciousness to it. I think it is something all people of good conscience and consciousness do, without needing any dogma or definitions to encourage them. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: theleveller Date: 04 Sep 12 - 04:30 AM Interesting discussion with Stephen Dawkins on Radio 4 at the moment, regarding The Selfish Gene and The God Delusion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Georgiansilver Date: 04 Sep 12 - 05:17 AM Bill... everyone can deal with any question in any way they wish to. They can even ignore it if they are not sure of or happy with the way it is phrased. Posts on here do not need to be answered do they? I make no excuse for being Christian.. that is my choice and I attempt to live by 'certain standards' without going into great detail. However there are those who dislike Christians... or religious people and their faith/belief and can't help but attack them for their views or the way they portray themselves, however well meaning. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: kendall Date: 04 Sep 12 - 06:32 AM It's interesting how closely Jesus resembles the ancient Egyptian god Horus. Even the Golden Rule was borrowed from the code of Hammurabi. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: theleveller Date: 04 Sep 12 - 06:52 AM The regeneration idea of a willing sacrificial victim born again is a continuous theme in many beliefs way before Christianity. Read Robert Graves' 'The White Goddess'. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: John P Date: 04 Sep 12 - 09:48 AM Everyone lives for themselves. If you believe in God, that belief is a part of you, so when you say you live for God, you are saying that you live the way you think you should. If you say you live for your mate, you are responding to something within yourself that makes living for your mate a good idea. And so forth. I'm not sure it's possible for anyone to live for anyone or anything else, unless they are a slave with absolutely no freedom of choice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 04 Sep 12 - 12:09 PM In which case, John one can thus ask "In what way do you live as you think you should?", which would be a perfectly valid and interesting question. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Mooh Date: 04 Sep 12 - 12:51 PM Those around me, and our surroundings. Family, friends, the community of clients/customers/students, churches, schools, businesses, and the environment in which we live and work. Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Ed Date: 04 Sep 12 - 01:10 PM You are dead right, John P. I was going to make the same point myself, but never got round to it. It's quite impossible to live for anyone or anything other than yourself. No one ever has, and no one ever will. Simple as that. Eliza says In which case ... "In what way do you live as you think you should?" By doing what feels right (whatever that means). It's fairly straightforward. The idea that this is a 'deep question' is nonsense. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: ClaireBear Date: 04 Sep 12 - 01:44 PM I live "for" myself, my son, my lover, my dear friends, tho ... but mostly I try to live "to" this practice: It doesn't much matter what you believe in. It matters how you live your life. Be kind -- that's the essence. Just be kind. Simplicity itself. Claire |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: ClaireBear Date: 04 Sep 12 - 01:45 PM Got distracted. "tho..." was going to be "those I know who most need help." C |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: theleveller Date: 04 Sep 12 - 01:51 PM I try to live to my own set of values. Sometimes I fail and disappoint myself and, from time to time, something I read or discover makes me reassess my values. Even things cast in stone can be worn away by time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Ed Date: 04 Sep 12 - 01:52 PM Well said Claire. Doing what feels right, is for most of us 'being kind' Simplicity itself, indeed |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: theleveller Date: 04 Sep 12 - 01:52 PM "by" not "to". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Bill D Date: 04 Sep 12 - 03:49 PM Georgiansilver: "I make no excuse for being Christian." nor should you.. " However there are those who dislike Christians... or religious people and their faith/belief and can't help but attack them for their views or the way they portray themselves, however well meaning." I have many many friends who are sincere Christians.... but it is not a subject that comes up regularly. They are aware that it is not 'beliefs' I 'dislike', but attempts to turn every topic to "God's wishes" or to hint that *I* ought to consider the status of my 'soul'....etc. I answered, as I say, your question ...after your 2nd post ...because you DO seem to find it difficult to discuss morals or feelings or life in general without pretty quickly inserting god into it. This always FEELS like proselytizing, whether you define it that way or not. It is a funny line I try to walk... defending the right of everyone to believe and/or worship as they please, while suggesting that they NOT use a non-religious forum to state ...many times... their deeply held beliefs. There ARE places for Christians to compare notes on such things. Now... I AM willing to discuss, and have often done so here, the various aspects of belief in general and the various philosophical arguments and bases for different ways people think and believe..... (*sort of a 'comparative religion' roundtable*). I studied comparative religion in college and am fascinated by its place in human history... it is IMPORTANT to be aware of how & why people develop beliefs of ALL kinds. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link Date: 04 Sep 12 - 04:07 PM i see kendal and leveller are expanding/extrapolating from the question. and rob-i wonder what those fallicies are ,but any such i am quite sure are not confined to creationists.best wishes BTW. I have some agreement with bill as i think the enquiry does invite a faith response-but not exclusively so. i am not surprised that some use it to express unbelief,rather than just either answering the question ,or ignoring the thread! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Rob Naylor Date: 04 Sep 12 - 05:33 PM Pete: If you look "up-thread", I think you'll find that people only started to post specifically about unbelief after several people had posted about their beliefs. The question "Who do you live your life for" is as you recognised a general one, and invites replies that specifically mention unbelief as a factor...saying that you live your life as a humanist, or guided by principles that have nothing whatsoever to do with any external "spirit", or "father figure" is just as much "answering the question" as is an answer proclaiming faith in God, Allah or Shiva. You seem to be suggesting that people ought to ignore the thread rather than responding with the idea that a deity plays no part in their life! Creationist fallacies I can debate with you when we next meet, but suffice it to say that the various versions of "X Questions That Evolutionists Can't Answer" have been absolutely refuted time again. And I still see creationists trotting out lines about moon dust, sea salinity and earth's rotation slowing which even AIG, Woodmaroppe, Hovind etc have stopped using, at least in arenas where they may be challenged! Enough of that, though. Best wishes to you, too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,TIA Date: 05 Sep 12 - 03:57 PM Until I had kids...me. Now...them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,kendall Date: 05 Sep 12 - 04:37 PM "To thine own self, be true." (Shakespeare) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Georgiansilver Date: 05 Sep 12 - 05:49 PM Bill you said in your last post:- >>>>>Now... I AM willing to discuss, and have often done so here, the various aspects of belief in general and the various philosophical arguments and bases for different ways people think and believe..... (*sort of a 'comparative religion' roundtable*). I studied comparative religion in college and am fascinated by its place in human history... it is IMPORTANT to be aware of how & why people develop beliefs of ALL kinds.<<<<<< Are you suggesting that as I refer to my beliefs only and don't discuss the various aspects of belief in general as you do that I am a lesser mortal than you? I don't belittle anyone elses beliefs or postings on their beliefs.... why do my posts unsettle you? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Bill D Date: 05 Sep 12 - 07:59 PM "Are you suggesting ......[snip]... that I am a lesser mortal than you?" Awww... c'mon GS... I suggest no such thing! Why would you read into my language anything but what I said? Your posts do not "unsettle" me, they just reflect, as YOU admit, only one viewpoint... and one which tends... as *I* state... to assume certain basic premises which are by no means universal, and are a matter of much controversy. My basic point, once more... is that THIS is not a good place to 'witness'. If all you have to say about the very complex issue of religious beliefs is: "I love God & Jesus.", it kinda echoes hollowly. We know you are a dedicated, honest Christian and ARE trying as best you can to live accordingly... but you seldom say much more than that. Look.... this is a free forum, and I have no control over your posts. I think it is best that I not engage you any longer on this, as I seem to just upset you and end up having to defend things *I* did not say. I will drop the topic unless you specifically wish to continue it in PMs... I apologize for intruding on the thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: gnu Date: 05 Sep 12 - 09:41 PM Bill D... cool here... and THERE... u r a gentleman. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Georgiansilver Date: 06 Sep 12 - 02:05 AM All I would ask Bill is that you perhaps take a look at my last maybe 1000 posts and see how many of them are connected with my Faith..... and then ask yourself if your first post on this thread was justified. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Big Al Whittle Date: 06 Sep 12 - 03:47 AM theres a lot to be said for cake, and a nice cup of coffee - with some friends to chat with. I went fishing yesterday - that was nice in the sun. No work to speak of - that's retirement for you.....didn't feel great with theold ticker, but it was alright. theres all the things you've done. All the places you've been. Life is an end in itself. It has to be. Its all we're certain of. If you can enjoy it. If you can't, enjoy the hope of something better. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 06 Sep 12 - 04:14 AM The question sort of assumes that responders will either live for themselves, some other person or group, or a supernatural figure such as God or Jesus (who are usually visualised as people with superhuman attributes). But I think that it's time that humans started to realise that there are millions of other living things on this planet besides humans and their wants and needs. A lot of those other living things are dying out because of our impact on the biosphere - and we will soon find out the hard way that our species can't exist without them. To be brutally frank it's time we stopped living JUST for ourselves and each other and started living for a more balanced existence and a sustainable future for our species and all other species. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Claire M Date: 06 Sep 12 - 06:12 AM Hiya, When I move (see other posts) I'll have to change my way of thinking a bit, so I'll essentially be living my life for (well, around) them because I don't want to be chucked out. I don't think you can (or should) live for other people though; what if you fall out with the person you've been living your life for ?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Ms Penelope Rutledge Date: 06 Sep 12 - 11:30 AM Who do I live my life for? Well, first and foremost...my family. Yes, my first concern is for family members and upholding the Rutledge tradition, maintaining the ancestral heritage and property, etc. Next, I live my life for my community, Twillingsgate. I have devoted considerable time to helping preserve heritage buildings in our historic town centre and encouraging all forms of art and cultural expression here in order to raise people's consciousness to the finer things in life. Then there are homeless animals, always a priority! I founded a local organization to rescue homeless animals of all sorts, and I am proud to say that this year alone we have given succour to 152 cats, 74 dogs, 25 caged birds of various sorts, one pot-bellied pig, one chinchilla, a Canadian moose...heaven knows how it came to Twillingsgate! But there you are. It now lives happily in a paddock behind the Rectory. Oh, and a duck-billed platypus as well. Then there is my country, England, and the Royal tradition. Rutledges have always stood firm in their defense of the Empire and are never found wanting when duty calls! (though I must say I heartily disapproved of our recent adventures in Afghanistan and Iraq). And what else do I live for, beyond that? Good taste. Without it, what does one really have to live for when all's said and done? * PR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link Date: 06 Sep 12 - 12:34 PM rob-sounds like you are well versed in the subject. as to creationists arguments being soundly refuted.i,m sure they are-as far as evolutionists are concerned. of course if the likes of dawkins is challenged by creationists as qualified as himself he declines-lest anyone take creationism seriously!or so he says!. moon dust etc;have you seen the item on creation.com"arguments creationists should not use" ps are you finding places to play while working away? regards pete |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: MGM·Lion Date: 06 Sep 12 - 01:08 PM "...England, and the Royal tradition. Rutledges have always stood firm in their defense of the Empire..." In that case, Guest Mrs Penelope Rutledge, why spell 'defence' the American way? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Winston Wellington-Jones Date: 06 Sep 12 - 01:36 PM She is probably attempting to make our colleagues across the pond feel more comfortable by doing so, M. Either that or she's had a bit too much port. Or perhaps it's code for a secret message to her lover in Spain. One never knows, does one? WWJ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Ms Penelope Rutledge Date: 06 Sep 12 - 01:55 PM Given the fact that there is hardly a barmaid or younger female domestic servant left within 100 miles of Twillingsgate who hasn't been bothered by your lewd advances, Winston, I think you would be wise to do the diplomatic thing and shut up! * PR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 06 Sep 12 - 03:25 PM Here we go again, pete! There is no such thing as an "evolutionist" and 'creationists' may have a facility for pulling passages out of the Bible to support their weird prejudices - but that doesn't put them in the same league as Richard Dawkins. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Don Firth Date: 06 Sep 12 - 03:37 PM "Creationism" is mythology. "Evolution" is science. There is nothing wrong with either of them. UNLESS one confuses one with the other. End of discussion. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Bill D Date: 06 Sep 12 - 04:59 PM "Evolution" is a series of theories that keeps changing as more facts are discovered. "Creationism" is a series of theories that cannot change, because they assume certain things to BE facts that cannot be tested. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish Date: 06 Sep 12 - 06:15 PM I'm going to start living my life for Winston and Penelope, above. :0) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Winston Wellington-Jones Date: 06 Sep 12 - 06:33 PM You do me an injustice, Penelope, my dear, limiting my effective "range" to only 100 miles. Ta, Lizzie. WWJ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link Date: 07 Sep 12 - 09:21 AM "end of discussion" don firth.is that a promise? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: John P Date: 07 Sep 12 - 02:52 PM Ah, pete the Satanist idiotically attempts once more to pretend that evolution is a religion by calling scientists "evolutionists". I think he's acting under orders from his dark lord. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,achmelvich Date: 07 Sep 12 - 03:02 PM when it comes down to it-i may spend my life working for the man, i may have responsibilities and love for my family -but i live my life for me. it's too short to do otherwise and when you have nearly lost it once and had your heart broke more than once...there is no-one else you can rely on. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: John P Date: 07 Sep 12 - 03:15 PM pete, I think what Don meant was "end of rational discussion". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Sep 12 - 01:55 AM ...and what Pete meant was...thank God for small favors! (To use a common expression. You don't have to take it literally.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Joe Offer Date: 08 Sep 12 - 02:24 AM I live my life for my wife, my son, and my mother-in-law - the people I live with and who are part of my day-to-day life. Of course, my own kids and my dad and late mother and brothers and sisters, and my friends are all important - but there's a distance there. I've been identified here as a religious person, so I suppose it would be legitimate to ask if live my life for God. Well, the answer gets complicated. I don't know that I could explain it in a way anyone could understand. I put away my "Yeah God!" cheerleader outfit long ago...and I never did use the pompoms. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 08 Sep 12 - 04:59 PM This is not exactly an answer to the thread question, but it comes close. In a recent thread about creativity I posted a short poem I had written, and though it's elsewhere in Mudcat I'll post it here too. It Lies Between It's 5:00 a.m., and Homer's "Rosey-Fingered Dawn" Seeps through Venetian Blinds To silhouette the soft curve of her breast beside me. Her body warmth, her ladylike small snore (I'd better say "sleep breathing", though) Assure me that she's there, alive. The meaning of my life still lies Between the bedroom window and myself. ____ 'Nuff sed. Dave Oesterreich |
