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Subject: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,olddude Date: 02 Aug 12 - 02:54 PM Few weeks ago we had a yard sale for the folks affected by the Colorado wildfires. So what to do with the stuff you don't need. I took a van full of things like thermos jugs, dinnerware, kitchen gadgets over to my Amish friends. They were like kids in a toy store. The thermos jugs especially because it keeps drinks cold and they don't have refrigs. kitchen gadgets like choppers or hand anything is always a big hit. So if you end up with lots of glassware like baking dishes or plastic jugs take them to your Amish friends ... it is so nice to see the smiles |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Jack the Sailor Date: 02 Aug 12 - 03:04 PM >>The thermos jugs especially because it keeps drinks cold and they don't have refrigs.<< I am dying to know how they make it cold in the first place. ;-) We don't have any Amish around here that I know of. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,olddude Date: 02 Aug 12 - 03:26 PM they have ice delivery twice a week Jack .... When they work in the fields they fill them with spring water. In the winter many will harvest ice from the farm ponds by cutting huge blocks and loading them on wagons , put them in the barn with layers of sawdust, The ice will keep for quite a while. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Becca72 Date: 02 Aug 12 - 03:51 PM I'm stuck on "refrigs", myself. You frig once and then the second time you re-frig? :-) 'round here we use the fridge. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Jack the Sailor Date: 02 Aug 12 - 03:53 PM I found out what the word "Frig" meant when I used it, somewhat innocently, in front of my very religious grandfather. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: gnu Date: 02 Aug 12 - 03:59 PM "Hit me"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST, topsie Date: 02 Aug 12 - 04:06 PM If the Amish think it is wrong to use electricity, shouldn't they refuse gifts, such as flasks, made using electricity? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,999 Date: 02 Aug 12 - 04:28 PM "If the Amish think it is wrong to use electricity, shouldn't they refuse gifts, such as flasks, made using electricity?" Because electricity is created from molecules and ions and all that stuff, and they predated electricity, that's why. For example, I belong to a group that really believes in jujubes. The word has been bastardized to things like mojo, juju, U2, etc. Well, at one of the meetings we hold every century--that should have read 'the one meeting we hold every century--we decided that at the next meeting we'd discuss sugar as a common bond between all the aforementioned. I'll let you know how that works out in 2102. Until then, think jujubes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,olddude Date: 02 Aug 12 - 04:50 PM ya I don't figure stuff, I just like those folks,good people they are honest, make me laugh with their humor and you know where you stand always with them. Now they can't own or drive a car but you can drive them that's ok. Can't own a computer but I bid for them on ebay, can't have a phone but can use one if your English neighbor lets ya whatever... LOL ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,999 Date: 02 Aug 12 - 05:17 PM Dan, I have a good friend who lives in a Jewish section of Montreal. In fact, he is between two synagogues and darned near everyone on the street is Hasidic. He is often asked on Friday early-evenings if he could 1) turn on the lights 2) turn off the computer A few years ago my friend and his missus got really sick--some sort of flu with all its complications. For the next week they had meals and snacks (kosher of course) delivered, and a few speed-dials given to them just in case. Good people don't forget other good people. Never have and never will. That's one of the true beauties of life. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: olddude Date: 02 Aug 12 - 05:19 PM And Jelly Jars, few people do their own canning anymore sadly .. we stopped when the kids all grew up ... nothing better than canned tomatoes. The Amish that live close by, they hit the yard sales often, but the friends I have out in the sticks it is pretty hard for them. Their wives can always use that stuff. And it is refrig where I come from , you say po-ta-to I say Po-tat-o LOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,999 Date: 02 Aug 12 - 05:41 PM Speaking of canning and jarring, there's a couple near here who make a sweet relish that is too good to have its taste diluted by other foods. When they get some new stuff out I will make sure you get a jar. This stuff defines great. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Jack the Sailor Date: 02 Aug 12 - 06:01 PM Wow! So many things on this thread worthy of comment. Carol was once hit on by an older married Amish man. So their honesty had bounds. Carol has an organic garden and does delicious canned tomatoes (she makes salsa and tomato sauce), pepper jelly and relish. Bruce, in what universe is it not more work to find someone to turn off your light, let them in you home, and let them out, rather than to flip the damned switch yourself? But I bet your friend got some killer chicken soup. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,999 Date: 02 Aug 12 - 06:18 PM In the religious universe, Jack. I have no idea why. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Jack the Sailor Date: 02 Aug 12 - 06:25 PM If they have those clappers do they have to find a goy to clap for them on Friday night? If they clap for the goy to come turn on the light and the light goes on anyway, do they still need the goy? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Aug 12 - 06:29 PM Since both my parents passed away in the last few years, there is a ton of stuff around here that I don't need. I've given a lot of it to the local Salvation Army Thrift Store. I've sold some of it. I've given some of it to friends. I've put furniture out at the side of the road (it disappears in an amazingly short time). I've thrown the more useless stuff out at the dump. And I'm still not done yet. I'm also getting rid of a lot of my own stuff lately...downsizing. I would prefer not to leave behind a pile of possessions the size of the Great Pyramid when I eventually shuffle off to the world of Spirit. Those Amish sound like nice folks, Dan. Whereabouts are you living again? I don't think there are any Amish in this area. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: framus Date: 02 Aug 12 - 08:14 PM We don't have any Amish in Northern Ireland, but it's always nice to give stuff to somebody who'll use/enjoy it when you've stopped. Do it! It'll make you feel good too. We all reach an age when the (putative) value is irrelevant. If you don't need, give it somewhere it will be appreciated. BTW, I'm not wealthy, but once something is paid for, it costs nothing to pass it on. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 02 Aug 12 - 08:16 PM I'm pleased to hear your story about a happy encounter, Dan. What with the problems your mother, aunt and daughter have had, you deserve some joy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Janie Date: 02 Aug 12 - 09:31 PM "What to do with stuff you don't need." Loaded question for me. I can nearly guarantee that if I keep it, I won't be able to find it when I need it. If I do happen to know where it is and get rid of it, I will find myself needing it. If I keep it and know where it is, that decreases the odds I will actually need it. Worst of all is when I need it, know I did have it, can't remember if I kept it or not, and have no clue about where I may have stashed it in the event I might need it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Ebbie Date: 02 Aug 12 - 09:59 PM The seeming illogic of Amish thinking stems from their belief or recognition that the ease and convenience of modern things has a corrupting effect on an individual who should have his/her mind set on spiritual matters. Many Amish are in business of one kind or another. For instance, a cousin of mine has a small-engine repair shop. Or they wholesale produce. Or make furniture to order. Or a carpenter does remodeling outside their community. Their business simply cannot survive without a means of communication. They need a telephone. So in order to avoid having the corrupting convenience in one's home some of them install a telephone down the road or even in a barn that a number of Amish families share. Amish families frequently rent a locker in town for food items that need a constant freezing temperature or in order to travel they go by train (which somehow is less corruptive) or they hire a driver and car to take them. Mind you, if the prospective driver is an apostate - meaning he or she has ever - as in the dim past - joined the Amish church they will not hire him/her. I have no doubt but that there are Amish philanderers. They are human beings. But I have never personally known an Amish thief. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: YorkshireYankee Date: 02 Aug 12 - 10:16 PM Jack, you're right, orthodox Jews don't ask non-Jews to turn their lights on/off for them on the Sabbath because it's "easier". They ask because (unlike any other religion ;-p), Judaism has a history of concluding it's ok to adhere to the letter of The Law -- which is decided by the Rabbis or Talmudic scholars at some point -- rather than the spirit (which of course is something Jesus was reacting to). So... not only are Jews not supposed to turn lights on/off, but no computers, telly, radio, doorbell (if it's electric), or electrical appliances of any sort (not sure about opening/closing the fridge, to be honest), and no driving, either, which is why orthodox Jews live within walking distance of their synagogue. As for asking someone else to do it for you; if they are not Jewish (or too young to be considered responsible, i.e. under 13), then it "doesn't count". I remember my father telling me stories about his grandmother asking him to turn lights, etc. on/off, because he was too young for it to "count". I won't argue that it doesn't sound a bit odd/silly/hypocritical (pick one)... AAMOF, my dad rejected Judaism when he got older, and his childhood experiences of such technical religious "loopholes" had a lot to do with it (as well as all the hypocrisy/inconsistencies he had observed). |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Beer Date: 02 Aug 12 - 10:23 PM Hay Bruce!!! Can I have my potatoes back please!! There is no better feeling than giving. Well! maybe making love is a close first as well. Good thread Dan. Adrien |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Jack the Sailor Date: 03 Aug 12 - 12:00 AM I wasn't calling anyone a hypocrite YY. Impractical, maybe, but not hypocritical. I like Jesus' bit about taking your ass out of a ditch. If you can save your donkey surely you can turn on your own light. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Ebbie Date: 03 Aug 12 - 01:13 AM hhahahhah JtS, you remind me of what I once innocently said to my devout mother. One Sunday I had helped corral some of their cattle (or something like that, I no longer quite remember) and I remarked to my mother that the Bible says it's OK to help your neighbor get his ass out of the ditch. My mother said, quietly, That's 'oxen'. I said, What? She said, In the Bible it says ox. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST, topsie Date: 03 Aug 12 - 07:51 AM Not sure what happened there - sorry about the blank post. The Amish attitude doesn't seem so strange when you think how many poeple, including me, eat meat but would not want to be the person who kills the animal. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: olddude Date: 03 Aug 12 - 08:52 AM well I only know they are good friends and good people. I never once felt unwelcome and when I stop by they stop work and come out smiling. Like everyone else over the years we end up with a lot of stuff that someone can use. I make trips to the Salvation Army but there is only so many thermos coolers they can use or glass baking dishes. Knowing people who can use them is wonderful because it is sure better than throwing them away and it helps someone |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: kendall Date: 03 Aug 12 - 09:58 AM We don't have any Amish here, but we do have Salvation Army and Goodwill. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: jacqui.c Date: 03 Aug 12 - 10:11 AM Surplus clothes from this household get taken to the homeless shelter - they are always in demand. I take women's clothing in to the women's shelter on a Monday afternoon when I do my needlecraft group, put them out on a table and, by the time I leave two hours later, they've all gone. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: olddude Date: 03 Aug 12 - 10:20 AM I had a lot of furniture from my office that I didn't need, I put it out to the curb with a note Free ... by the time I set the last table down people stopped and loaded up .. one young girl said, I really need that chair etc ... nice to help out, all of it gone in half hour |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Bobert Date: 03 Aug 12 - 10:37 AM Ebbie talking about the Amish brought up memories of working as a framing carpenter for strict Mennonites one summer when I was in college... They were pretty much against modern machines at home but on the job site, we had every modern tool that any other framing crew had... Musta have been hard for them to explain that to their kids... But back to the Amish for a second... Up in Lancaster, Pa. there is a large number of Amish and they are every kinda business you can think of... They even have an Amish "gift shop" but ya' have to be carefull in there 'cause half the stuff they sell ain't Amish, at all... It's Chinese??? Go figure??? BTW, everyone know about their buggies but what folks may not know is that those things ain't cheap... Over 10 grand!!! B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,olddude Date: 03 Aug 12 - 11:15 AM They really are expensive, many of the families I know share a buggy ..What I get a kick out of is their machine shop ... My one friend has his apprentice jump on a peddle bike thing and peddle away .. bada bing the drill press works and the lathe ... his other stuff has a peddle like the old sewing machines do ... amazed at the quality that come out however. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Bettynh Date: 03 Aug 12 - 11:38 AM Kendall, don't be so sure. Unity is the home town of the Organic Farmers organization and fair. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: kendall Date: 03 Aug 12 - 11:49 AM None near us. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: EBarnacle Date: 03 Aug 12 - 12:09 PM The rabbinic theory about using electrical devices on Sabbath is that there has been an interpretation that using electricity is making a fire, which is forbidden. There is a whole set of recipes which are adapted to this issue. I don't know what they do about the refrigerator. As far as donating, lady Hillary and I save most of our stuff up for our regional charity rummage sale [Visiting Nurses' Association of Somerset County, NJ]. Whatever is left over at the end of the sale goes to other charities. We also work with Freecycle. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Bill D Date: 03 Aug 12 - 12:53 PM I have no problem finding organizations to take unwanted 'stuff'... they call, send begging letters, and I 'suspect' sell mailing lists. We get 2-3 calls every week from Salvation Army and various other charities. Some take a wider variety of stuff than others. My problem is....unlike Janie.... I DO know mostly what I have and generally where it is. Thus, I delay tossing it because it may come in handy. I really DO find uses for many odd items and have saved thousands in 30 years by having 'stuff' around and the tools to use it. Yes.... that means way more than I will ever use, but..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: JohnInKansas Date: 03 Aug 12 - 09:58 PM The simple answer to what to do with stuff you don't need is pretty simple. That's the stuff you use to make other stuff out of ... ... that you don't need. Recollection is that the Amish, and everyone else, in older times just wrapped a rag around a gallon jug. Wet the rag and put it in the shade and the water stayed cool enough to drink. Without the rag and/or with the jug out in the sun you might not be able to get a drink without hurting yourself. (If anyone in your area remembers how to make a proper "water jug" donation of a glass gallon jug would probably be appreciated, since it's nearly impossible to get one now. Everything's in plastic.) For a thermos to provide a "cool drink," the "cool" part is relative. You don't need to have ice to make it a better container than a tin bucket. The town of Yoder, Kansas that's a center for a fair sized Amish group is about 8 miles from where my grandad had his farm, so they were well known by the general population and some ideas were picked up on visits to the farm. Since most of the locals knew about them, but few people actually knew more than a few of them in any personal/familiar way, it's hard to tell how accurate some of the information really was. There has been a rather wide variation among Amish in areas here. Some of them, at least then, would have declined clothing with a zipper in them - or might have removed it and put in buttonholes(?). Others didn't mind a zipper, although they really seemed to prefer what they made for themselves at home. That didn't make unsuitable clothing completely inappropriate, since they might salvage the cloth to make something else, but some wouldn't (couldn't?) use anything with prints or patterns. For others, or for those in other settlements, it might not matter. (At least for a few years, the Co-op Feedstore separated the solid color feedsacks "for the Amish" and the local ladies avoided buying them "as a favor." Then they started putting the feed in paper bags (~1948?) and you can't get a proper feedsack anymore.) The "Yoder Hardware" store still advertises that it's the place to find "old fashioned stuff" but since there are almost no places making anything that's not pretty current, it's hard to find much of anything that really supports that claim. (TV advertising seems kind of modern(?) but mostly the ads I've heard were on radio. Maybe that's old-fashioned enough?) At least one harness maker (Bontrager?) appears to still be active in the area, but that's based mainly on the sign by the driveway being repainted recently enough that you can still read it. I doubt if he advertises - or needs to. He probably doesn't take email orders, although I can't say for sure. The annual "Yoder Rodeo" does have a "quaint" flavor to it, with mule races among the events (and only a few horses even seen in events), but it's hard to tell how much of it is "real" and how much may be "reenactment" to advertise the town. The best evidence that they show off real working mules is that nobody fell off of one the last time we dropped in on a few events - which does indicate some real familiarity on the part of both the mule and the rider. (The mules are much more agile - and even smarter - than "Festus" ever demonstrated.) John |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Ebbie Date: 04 Aug 12 - 02:43 AM As JohninKansas stresses, there are many shadings of Amishness. Like many "Christian" people many of them disagree with each other- and start another branch, which then becomes Swartzentruber Amish or Bontrager Amish or whatever. More officially, there are Old Order Amish, who are the most strict in the observance of their beliefs; they tend not to have electricity and many don't even have piped running water. I have seen homes that have a small hand pump in the kitchen. I suppose they are the equivalent of the Orthodox Jew. Then there are others. There are 'car Amish' which can be Beachy Amish or even Conservative Mennonite. Another branch is Amish Mennonite, and they may have electricity but they don't have cars or telephones or radios. The latter is what my family was. Ebbie/Elva BONTRAGER |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: YorkshireYankee Date: 04 Aug 12 - 01:43 PM Wow, Ebbie, sounds like your life may have involved a fair few conflicting extremes! Heard a new documentary on Amish life discussed yesterday on BBC Radio 4's Front Row programme: "Director Lynn Alleway discusses her experiences making a documentary, which follows an Old Order Amish family in America. According to the strict rules of the Amish church, filming is not permitted, so by opening up their homes and life to the cameras Miriam and David risk being ex-communicated and excluded from their society." To hear the interview: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01l8n7p (scroll down to "Chapter 2") The film's website: Amish: A Secret Life "An extraordinarily intimate portrait about Amish life and faith. The film opens up a world usually kept private. Miriam and David are Old Order Amish, and photography is not permitted under the rules of the Amish church. So when they agree to open their home and their lives to the cameras, they embark on a journey which is not without risk. As the film unfolds, we learn exactly what is at stake for this family - and why they wanted to share their lives and risk all." Sounds well worth seeing (IMHO)... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Ebbie Date: 04 Aug 12 - 02:39 PM The BBC in recent years has come out with a number of excellent documentaries on the Amish. Unlike Hollywood's efforts. lol My father was a horse trainer and breeder who took great pride in his horses. One thing that has struck me over the years is the movies' portrayal of carriage horses. Our horses were never allowed to break out of a trot so the image on Bonanza, for instance, of wagon horses loping and lurching along is ludicrous to me. Stage coach horses may well have galloped, I don't know, that era was well before my time. To this day, I think very few things equal the beauty of horses in a trot. Mind you, I haven't been Amish since age 17 when I left home, but I have literally hundreds of Amish relatives (they tend to have very large families). I have never understood what combination of events/mindsets/upbringing causes some to leave the church versus those who stay. But this is far from olddude's opening thread. Let me just say that in my experience the Amish have little false pride- so giving new use to an old item is a good thing. Most Amish are thrifty to a fault. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Claire M Date: 05 Aug 12 - 11:19 AM Hiya, Ebbie – I saw that programme. I love some of their music. & the women's dresses are amazing. If you want to, could you tell me some more about what that life was like?? My family always says I might regret the results of my clear-outs, but if something truly means a lot, then passing it on never crosses my mind. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Ebbie Date: 05 Aug 12 - 01:27 PM As a lifestyle, Claire M, it was great. We had lots of horses, for instance - after having sold a few beforehand, we sold 13 of them at our farm auction. We always had horses to ride. The downside, of course, was that sometimes one would come home and find that your father had traded or sold off one of your favorite horses. :) Same with our dogs. We always had one dog that remained but the others- if someone admired one of them, Dad would pack them off. When I was 14 years old it was still a treat to me to ride in a car, believe it or not. Not school buses, of course; that was old hat, like to any kid. A friend of my daughter's asked me once if it was like growing up with the Beverly Hillbillies. *g* No. But it was a lot like Little House on the Prairie. Minus the galloping horses under harness. :) As a religion- hmmmm. I consider it a crime against children. Ignorance is not only acceptable but kind of venerated. (In fairness, I imagine a great deal has changed in the Amish view of education since I was young. Many Amish communities now have their own schools and there are now many Amish youngsters going off to college.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,olddude Date: 05 Aug 12 - 02:10 PM The friends I know Ebbie only went to school to learn the three R's and that is it. They then go off and apprentice for a trade. But I am amazed at how well read my friend Mahalon is. He is very very smart and can converse about a wide range of topics. He is always reading some book ... I have lots of fun with those guys. They are so comfortable with me that they will joke and laugh at some of my antics. They also only have an outside hand water pump like you said. I always bring them something ... ice cream is well appreciated for sure and the little guys and girls jump up and down .. so fun |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Bobert Date: 05 Aug 12 - 02:10 PM The Mennonites are every similar, Eb... The real conservative ones don't let their kids go to school past the 7th grade... That was the case with the ones I worked with... There was a 13 year old kid in our crew who had completed "his education": 7th grade... And, oh my God, these people wouldn't get rid of a danged thing... If something broke they'd jerry rig it back and if it was too broken they'd find a new use for it... But the "modern" Mennonites are just more like non- Mennonites in their appearance and behavior... And they drive ordinary cars that aren't black... The Amish, if I am not mistaken, still won't own a car unless it's black... And they hide their cars in the barns... BTW, they hide their telephones in the barns, too... BTW, part 2... They have refrigerators and washing machines that run on propane??? Don't ask me??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Ebbie Date: 05 Aug 12 - 02:20 PM Keep in mind, Bobsterist, that only certain branches of Amish have cars. And yes. The 'car Amish' that I know did drive only black autos; some went so far as to paint the chrome black. In the Virginia Amish church, though, there was a family that drove their little Ford Ferguson tractor to church, a little trailer behind. :) So far as I know (but then, I probably wouldn't know), there was no official remonstrance. Olddude, the ignorance I mentioned accounts, imo, for a great deal of the insensitivity of some Amish to animals. The puppy mills of Indiana that I've read about are beyond appalling. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,olddude Date: 05 Aug 12 - 02:23 PM Ebbie Last time I went out, I was wearing a bright yellow tacky Hawaiian shirt, baggy shorts and sandals and a pittsburgh steelers ball cap. The little guys started giggling and my friends said .. "Looking good Dan" LOL I love those people |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Bobert Date: 05 Aug 12 - 02:32 PM Yeah, Eb, I know that some Amish still don't have cars... And the ones that do make every effort to keep them well hidden... I used to go Mason-Dixon Auto Auction in Greencastle, Pa. and there were two Amish guys who were like the procurers of cars for their fellow Amish... They were there every week bidding on anything black... Didn't much matter what kind of car it was as long as it was black... I'm sure there ois a joke in there but I'll leave it alone for now... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: katlaughing Date: 05 Aug 12 - 05:26 PM One more aside: my granddad made hundreds of wooden toys each year for needy children of Denver and his grandkids. One of the things I got was a one-shaft carriage. I didn't realise until a few years ago when I gave it to Night Owl when she had her housefire (she'd had a carriage business) it is a to scale replica of an Amish buggy. Pretty neat. Granddad lived in PA before moving West. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Ebbie Date: 05 Aug 12 - 05:42 PM One of my dad's ideosyncracies (sp?)was his attitude toward the covered 'double buggy'. Most of our relatives made use of them. We had a double but it was like those carriages used in Central Park and for the tourist trade; it was open to the sky (so when it rained or snowed we ducked beneath the blanket or got soaked. lol) The double buggy was for two horses and was used for family. For two people we used a single buggy (one horse, one seat, single shaft)also open to the elements. We also had wagons and buckboards and two-wheeled carts. As I said, growing up that way was fine as far as horseflesh was concerned. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,olddude Date: 05 Aug 12 - 09:21 PM My friend has two mini horses (same kind my daughter owns) but he hooks up a little wagon to them when he is shoveling the stalls. They can in and around the barn so easy .. cool idea I thought ... My kids are spoiled pets but she does pull the neighborhood little kids in her wagon with them ... walks the little horses in the dog park and drives them out in the van .. cute little things .. they look like a great dane dog size wise |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Ross Campbell Date: 06 Aug 12 - 06:05 PM JohnInKansas - re Gallon glass jugs - something like this? http://www.dorsethomebrew.co.uk/shop/36-35-large/1-gallon-clear-glass-demijohn.jpg From about forty years ago, when excise rules in the UK were relaxed, it became legal to brew beer at home for your own use. The practise became widespread. Eventually specialist shops grew to meet the demand for raw materials, equipment, etc. National chain "Boots the Chemist" stocked a wide range of brewing necessities, including the glass demijohns as pictured above. The brewing craze long since passed its peak, but flagons like these crop up regularly at Charity Shops and car boot sales over here for a pound or two (current retail price appears to be £6.95, maybe $10?) Maybe the vogue for micro-breweries in the US pre-empted a similar home-brew industry? Or does the excise situation still prohibit home production of alcohol? Ross |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Aug 12 - 06:20 PM Amish car, big on style, not so big in horse power. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Ebbie Date: 06 Aug 12 - 09:10 PM Wow. A one-horse engine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,olddude Date: 06 Aug 12 - 09:11 PM Ross it is completely legal to make you own beer or wine .. Not whiskey however, that is illegal. My dad made his own beer, I have made lots of wine (gave it all away) but my friend Garry and I got a kick out of going in the fields and getting the grapes from the end posts. The auto grape pickers cannot get the end post grapes so they give them to us. One time we made 55 gallons of the best french grape wine anywhere. People loved it .. I will have a beer once in a while, maybe a glass of wine but I am a coffee drinker mostly |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Ebbie Date: 06 Aug 12 - 10:41 PM I once went with a guy who made his own vodka out of potato. Made a great nightlight. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Ross Campbell Date: 07 Aug 12 - 11:21 PM My mum used to make the occasional batch of wine. She just followed recipes from library books, but must have been doing things right - she once won first prize for a bottle of "Champagne" in the Scottish Women's Rural Institute tent at Drymen Show, following which she was horrified to be invited to contribute an article on wine-making to a national magazine. It would have been an interesting article - she insisted that her wine was not alcoholic, despite the fact that it clearly was! This misconception may have arisen from an earlier experimental recipe for Advocaat (egg nog) which had a huge vat of mashed-up eggs (including shells) and other ingredients marinading in our kitchen next to the stove for weeks. Towards the end of the process, a portion of brandy had to be added (to stop the fermentation process) so she could see how the Advocaat would be alcoholic. But she hadn't added any alcohol to the wine recipes, so how could that possibly be alcoholic? Perhaps we should have turned her on to making "non-alcoholic" poteen - or vodka - potatoes were one of the main local crops, and we used to get as much as we could carry after a day at the tatty-howkin' (as well as getting paid for the work!) The bottles my mum used for her winning "Champagne" were former whisky bottles recycled from the pub across the road, courtesy of the landlord and landlady, her friends the Glasgows, labelled in careful calligraphy by Patrick Sinclair who worked with my father in the Bank at the time. Back then (forty-five years ago) things that were no longer "needed" would go to jumble sales or junk shops - both of these seem to have disappeared, to be replaced by car-boot sales and eBay. (At least with car-boot sales I feel that I'm getting some fresh air - that's my story and I'm sticking to it!) Ross |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Claire M Date: 06 Sep 12 - 03:09 PM Hiya, When I knew I was going for a Respite Care stay I'd always take some stuff there with the intent of leaving it. If I didn't want it someone else always would; I had to make sure it was something I really didn't want though because once it had gone I'd never see it again!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: ChanteyLass Date: 06 Sep 12 - 10:38 PM Good idea! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 07 Sep 12 - 03:30 AM A simple lifestyle and a godly family tradition is fine by me. But what I cannot accept is the Amish way of 'shunning' those who step out of line. To isolate, ignore and banish is not Christian. I don't believe Jesus would ever have done this. As regards making alcohol at home, all sorts of delicious brews have been made in UK for centuries, if not millennia. For example, small and strong ale, mead, wine from the hedgerows etc. But recently here, Poles and other Eastern Europeans have started to make vodka in garages and outhouses. This distilled stuff is lethal, can cause blindness, and explodes easily, as it's extremely volatile. Four Poles were burnt to death a few months ago when their illicit still exploded. But to get back to the original post, I love car boots. I've sold no end of stuff, and it makes a lovely day out. I put all the better items on our wallpapering table, and the dealers whizz in at 6am to snap them up. Then I put cheap things and rubbish on a big rug on the ground. You get the less well-off rummaging through it, and I let them have say 10 articles for 50p. The rest of the day you chat with all the people and sell the rest of the stuff, and it's just like a party. Lovely! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Henry Krinkle Date: 07 Sep 12 - 04:34 AM I sell it online. Junk my neighbors throw out. Stuff I find. Easy money. With enough lemon oil and black shoe polish I can make most anything look new and shiny. Especially music gear. I bought a crappy Magnus Prelude tabletop chord organ for $25 from a pawn shop. Slathered it with lemon oil. I put it up for sale at $50. A buyer's first words were IT'S BEAUTIFUL!!!He gave me $60 and told me to keep the change. It was truly a piece of junk. (:-( D)= |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 07 Sep 12 - 05:27 AM That's exactly it, Henry. What we don't like very much will be a super find for someone else. I usually put up a rail of clothes, and the things some ladies seize as treasures! Stuff I haven't worn because they're hideous! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Henry Krinkle Date: 07 Sep 12 - 05:39 AM Very good! I found an old German 35mm camera at a yard sale. $10. Sold it to a Japanese fellow for $150. I see them at eBay for $600 these days.You never know. (:-( D)= |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 07 Sep 12 - 05:45 AM As I've got older (much older!) I find I'm cutting down more and more on 'stuff'. I just don't want loads of things cluttering up the house and garage. I'm the opposite of a hoarder. It's so nice when you've got the minimum of clothes, utensils, ornaments etc. I much prefer the space they once stood in to the items themselves. Space is good, things are bad! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 07 Sep 12 - 05:55 AM Isn't it amazing how many people force themselves to lead their lives according to made up rules attributed to an imaginary supernatural entity? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Henry Krinkle Date: 07 Sep 12 - 05:59 AM Yea. I'm a hoarder. I wish I could sell more. Anybody need a cheap Strat or four? (:-( ))= |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: Claire M Date: 10 Sep 12 - 10:48 AM Hiya, That was one of the few positive things about going to Respite Care, ChanteyLass! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What to do with stuff you don't need From: mg Date: 10 Sep 12 - 06:49 PM I am collecting craft and office materials for a camp for abused children. They need new underwear and socks, for ages 5 through 18. New toiletries, such as soaps, shampoos, etc. Hotel stuff is great. New stuffed animals about 1 foot high. Crafts: need scissors, glue, beads, feathers, glitter, stamp materials. Office: pens, markers, pencils, glue sticks, post its. These don't have to be new but should be OK shape..no dried up markers for example. Youi can PM me for US address...mg |
