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Subject: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: gnu
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 02:14 PM

I found her just moments ago. I went downstairs to get Mum a jug of water. I opened the door. The light came on. I grabbed a jug water and shut the door. I turned to go back upstairs and froze in shock. I felt the side of the water jug, desperately hoping to be wrong but it was warm.

I opened the door and began to pump the temperature setting... coldest... warmest... coldest... warmest... but there was no response. I pushed her up on two legs and let her hit the floor... again... and again... but her compressor remained silent.

I grabbed a towel and mopped out the freezer compartment. The last defrost cycle was done.

With a grim heart I ascended the basement steps where Mum was waiting, wondering why I was so long fetching her water and wondering what the noises were about. I told her I had bad news and handed her the jug of water. She knew without me having to tell her. I could see the look in her eyes. She said, softly, "We'll have to get someone to take it out of the basement. It just goes to the dump does it or does it have to go to some recycling place?"

CFBs London, Winnepeg, Zweibrucken, Trenton and then to Moncton, NB. Sixty years of dedicated service. I am sad to see her go.

I must remember to grab the light bulb before she gets trashed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 02:21 PM

When I bough my 1953 Spartanette trailer back around 10 years ago after it had been sitting since the early 60s without so much as having it's doors open, I found the original Frigidaire in it... It took months of cleaning and hauling junk outta the trailer before I got around to the mechanical systems but when I plugged the Frigidarie in it came right on and began cooling... Worked fine...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: GUEST,999
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 02:21 PM

Well, Gnu, it lived a good life. Cooled a few beers and kept the odd bit of food from getting all like this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 03:30 PM

Bruce, you find the most INTERESTING photos!


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: EBarnacle
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 03:44 PM

Frigidaire. One of the many brands that were so pervasive that the name became a generic. Ave et vale thou good and faithful servant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: maeve
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 03:51 PM

I knew this had to be your thread, g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TummyHurtsFridge.jpg


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 05:02 PM

Brings me back to the day I lost Roy, my refrigerator. I was listening to my favourite critter song:

""Now I also met a cow who was standin' in my kitchen
Opening my refrigerator door
And she said do you mind if I fix myself a sandwich
'Cause I can't live on the grass anymore""



Ode to a critter


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 05:35 PM

Ode to a refrigerator!
A refrigerator is a humane invention
A freezer is a blessed merciful thing
Because it means we don't have to
kill deer and cows every other day
Because of heat making the meat go bad
Especially in late Spring, summer,
and the early Fall
We can keep meat frozen
For months maybe even years
A refrigerator is a wonderful thing

DANGER MOOSE CROSSING!

A Moose is a splendid animal
He is reclusive retiring and docile
And a very curious ackward creature
They will watch you for hours
hiding behind trees and bushes and things
HOWEVER---------------WARNING! WARNING!
Don't ever come across one when it is rutting
Or horney as they say.
BECAUSE IT WILL KILL YOU!

By mystic drifter


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 05:44 PM

To the truck



To the store:

Refrig shopping again


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 01:41 PM

Does it look like this?

People collect those things, use them as something else or refurbish them. I think if you put out a free ad somewhere for a vintage 1950 fridge, not working, someone will take it off your hands.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 02:21 PM

gnu, our old Frididaire has decided to join yours in that great scrapyard at the edge of town.

Now if is had been an old woody, an icebox, the junktique dealers would be calling.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 03:52 PM

I dunno, gnu.
But, if the "best before" date on any of the thawed out food indicates "1956", I'd suggest you chuck it.
;)

That reminds me of a gent who once said to me that his fridge was "unthawing". Does that mean it was begining to freeze again?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: gnu
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 03:53 PM

SRS... not quite but it does have the old style. Unfortunately, two years ago the humidity caused a bunch of brown and black stains on it which I could not remove with baking soda and water (not mold) so I doubt if anyone will want it. But, thanks for the idea.

Sorry to hear of your loss, Q. It's never easy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 04:15 PM

Always a pain to sort and dump old food, especially that which has become ice balls in the freezer section.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 04:37 PM

""Always a pain to sort and dump old food, especially that which has become ice balls in the freezer section.

And when you come across stuff in a container, and you don't recall what it is, or when it was put in the freezer. An electricity outage has its benefits, forcing folks to reevaluate and clean out the old stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 10:21 PM

Our large chest freezer could use a clean out. Found a yeast can yesterday, dated 1982.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 12:16 AM

Another old timer - it took 8 hours to remove the ice which filled the freezer compartment - when we cleaned the Hut in the lead up to the Bush Music Club's 50th Anniversary in 2004. We had no idea how long it took to completely fill the freezer compartment as the fridge is only opened once or twice a week.

Mike also defrosted it in 2009 for our 55th anniversary (it didn't take so long as there was only 5 years of ice to remove that time) & he will no doubt get the same gig in 2014!

It won't be the same when it eventually dies & we get a newer fridge. The Bush Music Club is Australia's oldest folk club & we have collected traditional music all that time - no wonder we collect old whitegoods, too!

sandra


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 03:28 AM

I did note that gnu's description of his reaction to the warm jug of water did not include:

a.) checking to make sure the beast was still plugged in.

b.) checking the outlet to make sure it was still "live."

(If the light still came on when the door opened, it was probably safe to skip those, but machines can be sneaky, illogical, and untrustworthy.)

Regarding: "It just goes to the dump does it or does it have to go to some recycling place?"

Nearly all places in the US have laws strictly requiring that any refrigerator or freezer "discarded" (or even placed outdoors) must have the door completely removed due to the possible accident of kids locking themselves in and suffocating when they play around one.

In some jurisdictions, just having one with the door on it on your property where it's not constantly observable can be heavily fined, even if no accident occurs.

Even if it's not a legal requirement, it seems like a good enough idea, even if it just sits by the back door until someone can take it away for you.

As old as it is, Federal Regulations in the US would require getting it to a service operator able to "capture" any remaining refrigerant in the thing, since it would almost certainly be one of the "banned" kinds.

Removing the door is usually a matter of removing about 4 or 6 screws, and mostly very easy to do. In the absence of a suitable "appliance dolly" taking the door off may make it a lot easier to get the thing out of the basement as well since it gives you more ways to grab onto it. And if you save the screws (and of course the door) it goes back on about as easily as it comes off, if someone wants to rehabilitate the fridge for some use.

Typical "trash collectors" generally won't touch an old fridge. It's common to have to pay someone to get rid of an old one (or any appliance) for you, but a very few places include the cost of delivery of a new appliance and removal of one being replaced in the purchase price. The only one that I've confirmed does it that way in my area is Home Depot, and I don't know if that's a corporate policy or a local one. I have confirmed several others that don't do it like that. Since delivery + removal can run into quite a few bucks, (sometimes near $100?) it's worth knowing what the policies and prices are to figure them into the real cost of a replacement.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Ed T
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:08 AM

I lived on a farm and when I was very young (before electricity arrived) our family had an icebox. It looked like a refrig. - but had a compartment to store ice for inside cooling. It was filled with ice from our icehouse. Large blocks of ice was collected (cut out) in wintertime from a local lake and stored under sawdust in the icehouse for summer icebox use. We also stored filled milk cans in the icehouse from our dairy herd. Commercial milk pick up was every other day. The old icebox still remains in the old farmhouse (our family, no longer living in the area, now uses the house as a summer home), and is used for can goods storage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:37 AM

I do have some memories of an old ice box we had for a while ca 1942-43 or so. Since there were/are no lakes in the area that froze over (beyond a little scum on the surface) the ice was from a refrigeration plant (ammonium cycle refrigeration assumed?) and delivered about weekly.

Since even icebox temperatures are a little limited in how long food can be kept, nearly every small town in the region had a "locker" business with one of the old fashioned refrig units to make ice for delivery to the locals, and also with rentable "bins" where people could store frozen food. When the trip to town included a vist to the "locker" to get some of the stash, it was a nice treat for the kids to go along and "help" since they got a chance to get cool for a few minutes any time of the year. It was a little less enjoyable plucking a hundred or so chickens on a weekend family get-to, to get them ready to go to the freezer plant.

Old iceboxes are, incidentally, much in demand among the "antiques" traders, if they've got all their hardware and are in good enough shape to be cleaned up and "look like real furniture." It would be impossible to guess all the things people claim to use them for, but probably "just fer braggin'" is among the most common real reasons most of 'em buy one.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Charmion
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 12:33 PM

The IGA grocery store in the village where I grew up had a walk-in freezer where householders could rent lockers to store their frozen food; consequently, one did not go to the supermarket (it wasn't really adequate, let alone super), one went to the Locker.

That was back in the mid-'50s, when Canadians who lived through the Depression and the War (or even two wars) were still getting used to the idea of buying stuff, so refrigerators were not yet universal. Even if your family had a fridge, chances were excellent that its freezer compartment was a feeble thing barely capable of keeping a pint of ice cream in solid form, let alone preserving the output from a quarter-acre garden patch for winter use.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Ed T
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 03:19 PM

We had a secure area (from pests) in the ice storage area for winter use. I recall quarters of beef, pork and lamb hanging and very frozen (there were few winter thaws back in those days, as there are today). I used to run out in cold weather to saw off a steak, which I cooked on a cast iron fry pan on the wood stove. Mmmmm is all I can say on my recollection of the excellent taste of the home grown meat.

Our apples were home canned or dried. We had a smoke building for hams and bacon. We pickled or canned (one lb cans) veggies, chicken and fish (lobster) and salted cod. Our celler held spuds, carrots and real turnips (versus swedes). No shortage of good hearty food in our home.

No person was allowed to swear in our house-which was just fine, as the home made lye soap could have been lethal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 06:27 PM

Federal regulations with regard to fridge disposal are largely voluntary.
Responsible Appliance Disposal (RAD) Program

EPA's RAD is a voluntary partnership program that began in October 2006 to help protect the ozone layer and reduce emissions of greenhouse gases. ......partners recover ozone-depleting chemicals from old refrigerators, freezers, ...
.....partners ensure that (in addition to refrigerant) metals, plastic and glass are recycled.....pcbs mercury and used oil are recovered and properly disposed.
http://www.epa.gov/ozone/partnerships/rad/

There is no overall requirement, some jurisdictions have fairly rigid statutes but these are lacking in others.

Here in Calgary, we are dependent on junk disposal contractors. We bought our new fridge from a company that will remove the old one (at our expense). I believe that the situation is no better in most U.S. jurisdictions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Ed T
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:07 PM

In Nova Scotia, a group will come to your house and pick up old fridges and freezers and give you $30. Its covered by a small levy put on power bills to help reduce energy consumption from old appliances.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 08:26 PM

In our Wash DC suburb, you can call for pickups of large items. You DO have to removed doors of fridges... (ummm,,,not 'frigs'...Google tells me that many people have no idea of the linguistic difference)


I have a Norge which was old when we bought this house 30 years ago. I use it for beer and 'extra' storage.... I have to keep bar clamps on both doors to keep it closed. It refuses to die! I'm sure that I can get something newer for free from Craigslist of somewhere like that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 08:38 PM

linguistic comes from linguine-


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 09:02 PM

Ed T, good idea.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 09:07 PM

My dad sent me some frozen salmon (overnighted in an iced package) some months before he died, and I forgot about this one so it got pretty old. After he died I never had the heart to get rid of it. So I have a piece of vacuum packed smoked salmon in my freezer from 1997. :-(

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - our Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 01:17 AM

Gnu, I added one word, "our" to the thread title. Hope you don't mind. I thought this was another corporate-demise threads, but it isn't. Frigidaire started out as the Guardian Frigerator Company in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and developed the first self-contained refrigerator in 1916. General Motors owned the company 1919-1979, and renamed it "Frigidaire." The White Sewing Machine Company bought Frigidaire in 1979, and Electrolux bought White in 1986. Frigidaire has headquarters in Charlotte, NC - another Midwestern firm gone South. Electrolux has headquarters in Stockholm.

Where was your 60-yr-old Frigidaire made, gnu?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - our Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: gnu
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 05:32 AM

I dunno. Must check out the plate.

As for the title change, as usual, ya got a good reason.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - our Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 06:31 AM

My late mother-in-law had a 1940s fridge (can't remember the make) with cast iron "queen anne" legs that lasted her into the 1990s.
"You don't need an iceman honey
Gonna buy you a Frigidaire"
(Outskirts of Town)

RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - our Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 12:37 PM

gnu-

So sad. I feel your loss.

And this is not the time of year to get much ice-cutting done as an alternative to keeping it really cool.

In Maine, we only get a $50 rebate if the old frig is still running and we buy a more efficient one. But they actually pick it up for free. What a deal!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - our Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Bettynh
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 01:00 PM

Aside from the issue of noxious gases, you now have a pretty secure storage cupboard. I have a freezer in the cellar that hasn't run for many years. It works well to keep out moisture, though, and I use it to store detergent and other drygoods that would be damaged by cellar damp. The cabinet would be pretty mouseproof for a long time, too, if you want to store grains and such.

LOL, it's a good excuse to do nothing, anyway...


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - our Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 01:32 PM

We got the new fridge from Sears, with their promise to remove the old one, and paid the $25 which they added to the invoice for its removal.
The promised day for pickup passed, so we complained. A second promised pickup day also passed. Ten days now.
We get apologies, and a third pickup day is given to us. In the meantime, the relic sits on the patio near our front door.

(It is a Frigidaire, 40-50 years old. It is parked with its back to a wall, so I can't check date or place of manufacture).


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - our Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 02:02 PM

Maybe you should get on to Frigidaire. Maybe they could use the story as proof it's a good idea to get one of their fridges, if they keep going well for sixty years.

Why they might even want to buy her off you...


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - our Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 03:46 PM

Complete digression, but an item in the New York Times last week says pianos are increasingly being consigned to the dump. Many people don't have the room in current accomodations and few play anymore.

I have an old upright grand with a cracked board, been in the basement for 50 plus years.
I will see if a local woodworker would like the solid mahogany, but otherwise it is of little value.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - our Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: gnu
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 09:51 PM

McGrath... my present Frigidaire was bought on Nov 23 and it started to mess up in the following Aug two years ago. They came and "fixed" it so it didn't wake me up at night (putty). It was freezing food on the top shelf. They told me to "turn it down" or avoid putting on the top shelf anything I didn't want frozen. The next Aug it iced up so badly the fan couldn't run and I had to shut it down and defrost it. They said I should have bought the extended warranty but if it messed up again they would wave the service call ($90) and sell me any major parts at cost. It still makes noise in warm weather and I figure the only reason it doesn't frost up is the fact that I have some air conditioning. The new one's are not made to last any more than 8 years max. Soooo... fuck Frigidaire. I like Bettynh's idea better.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - our Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: gnu
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 03:40 PM

I just fired the b**** up again. Took everything out this AM. Near a half inch of frost on some of the stuff in the freezer. Swabbed it out and put a floor fan in front of it... 45 minutes later I mopped up nearly a cup of water that drained from the fan housing. Kept the fan on it for six hours. I was waiting for cold weather so I could load up coolers and put them in the garage... -6C tonight so I'm cool with that. If she's okay, everything goes back in in the AM and I'll be good until at least next summer.

Who needs Facebook, eh? >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Obit - our Frigidaire 1952 - 2012
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 05:06 PM

Hey, it's a real Frigidaire ain't it???

It'll be fine, gn-ze...

1952, ya' say??? Best Frigidaire ever made...

B~


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