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Subject: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 09:07 PM

Squirrels can turn vicious????

They are squirrels. He's a bear. Bears wipe there arses with squirrels. Round these parts anyway. Attack a dog? Maybe a weeny dog. I have lost all respect for the elite macho twit. Queen's special forces? More queen than special. A fuckin squirrel?


Partridge are easier to catch and those rats with bushy tails smell of musk and taste like crap. Surely a refined Englishman would prefer a much better meal? But, apparently the rats are a far more formidible foe too battle than a dumb bird.

I'd laugh if it wasn't so inane.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 10:06 PM

I thought you were talking about female bears! Seriously, gnu, I thought you were having fun with spelling "gyrls!" Too funny!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 10:32 PM

Squirrels are awesome, tastiest critters in the forest GNU. Much better than any bird ... Black, Grey and fox are the best... Forget reds, no meat on em


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 11:27 PM

You gotta have squirrel in burgoo, even though effete recipes like this one leave it out. The squirrels are traditionally shot with a .36 caliber muzzleloading rifle, preferably in the head so you don't waste meat.

Should you wish to try another Kentucky dish -- squirrel brains on toast -- I feel that I should mention that it can spread Jakob-Crutchfeld Disease (as proven by the CDC).


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 11:30 PM

All of those "survivor" shows are for wimps. Let's try a couple of REAL survivor shows:

1. Dump 'em naked in the Sawtooth Mountains in January, tell town is 75 miles or so that-a-way, and good luck.

2. Dump 'em naked in the Spring in Northern Ontario, the Yukon, or Alaska. Tell 'em the same thing.

No crew to film them; anyone who makes it to town wins.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 11:43 PM

I've got scars either side of a knuckle where a Grey Squirrel bit right through it.
Got savaged when the wife and me were students, drunk in a park,
and she got a bee in her bonnet insisting I catch her one of the cute little critters so she could give it a proper girly cuddle..

I thought I was safe grabbing one from behind round the back of it's neck;
but as soon as I got a firm grip the vicious little buggers head suddenly rotated near 360 degrees
and dug it's teeth into my knuckle, hanging on to my blood streaming finger until I could shake it off...

Wife was laughing hysterically.

Things we have to do to please women..


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Newport Boy
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 06:16 AM

Yes, you have to watch grey squirrels. One ran into our kitchen on a hot summer day. I cornered it on a window ledge and grabbed it. Then it grabbed me! I still have the teeth marks between my thumb and finger. I yelled a bit, but had the presence of mind to keep my grip until I got outside. When I opened my hands, it let go and ran off.

At least I had the attention of all the nurses in A&E. None of them had seen a squirrel bite before.

Phil


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: TheSnail
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 06:21 AM

Surely a refined Englishman would prefer a much better meal?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/oct/19/red-squirrels-protection

I have met Lord Redesdale. Delightful chap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Allan C.
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 06:25 AM

With reference to Rap's remark about squirrel brains, (side note: can you imagine how many squirrel brains it would take to make enough to spread onto a piece of toast?!) here is more than you would ever want to know about
Creuzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 11:03 AM

You scramble them with eggs. Some people also use them in burgoo, but I don't.

More than you want to know here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 11:03 AM

Yeah......Karen is a histotech and the first time I heard about JCD I fuckin' lost it!   It is way beyond scary, AIDS ain't shit. She blows all that stuff off as well controlled by proper precautions in tissue handling but nonetheless I am always a bit worried for her....


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 11:07 AM

By the by, there are places here in Idaho where the Fish & Game people permit you to "harvest" all the red squirrels you want, as they are driving out the native greys. Mayhap there is a business model here? An illegal trade in squirrels? Lend-Lease?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 11:17 AM

Ya dip em in beer battered flour and egg and fry em, awesome. Ya can also make squirrel and dumplings like the Cajun guys do .. also awesome.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 11:18 AM

and far better then any rabbit ya ever ate


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Ed T
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 11:22 AM

Main Bear tactic:)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 11:22 AM

Bear Grylls is great at climbing and getting in and out of situations. I have no problem with him. Pretty good info for the most part. Some is a bit out there. He takes a lot of chances that if one were stuck in such situations, common sense if more of a life saver. You don't need to take unnecessary risks when you are already at risk. sometimes the longer way is smarter then trying to build a piss poor raft and run down the rapids. Yikes


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: DMcG
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 11:28 AM

By the by, there are places here in Idaho where the Fish & Game people permit you to "harvest" all the red squirrels you want, as they are driving out the native greys.

But in the UK there are very few reds left because the greys have driven them out. What's that about?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 11:59 AM

I read recently that we (in UK) are starting to see quite a few black squirrels, and it's a genetic mutation of the greys. I can't understand people who grab, accost and frighten a wild creature, and are then amazed when the poor thing bites them! What do you expect, a kiss on the cheek? It's best to leave wild things alone and observe quietly, taking pleasure in watching them from a distance. as for cooking and eating them, well...!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 12:39 PM

not anymore Eliza, just watching them


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 12:51 PM

Ed T... hahahahahaa!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 01:06 PM

I'm glad, olddude, 'cos I bet they'd give you indigestion!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 01:19 PM

I dunno, but the reds are driving out the native greys. Must be a Commie Plot!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 01:26 PM

I believe that here in UK the greys gave a nasty virus to the reds who are dying of it at a terrible rate. I wonder if your reds know something ours don't!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 01:33 PM

You mean about vaccines? Nobody that I know of has reported the reds getting any shots (except from .22s and airguns).

By the way, remember that this is possible only in certain designated areas. I can't, for example, shoot the squirrels in my backyard -- the police are terribly sticky about that sort of thing even here in Ye Olde West.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 01:41 PM

I tried my darnedest to get a pic a few years ago of a red the pines at the edge of my backyard. A foot long and maybe slightly more... nose to arse! Not a word of lie. Couldn't get my el cheapo camera to work at the proper times and wished I had grabbed the SLR instead. I bought a new digital camera next time I saw a good one on sale.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 02:17 PM

I'd not read this thread until just now. While following link in the Cutty Sark thread, I came across a mention of Bear Grylls in the link below which made me curious about this thread. Maybe this link deserves another thread.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-24033196-scouts-werent-prepared-for-this-squatters-from-st-pauls.do


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 02:24 PM

ChanteyLass... they should send in the SAS. Not Bear, of course, unless he brings his elite squad of masked and highly trained squirrels... oh, the horror.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 03:14 PM

Sounds like breaking and entering to me. Cops can raise fingerprints, etc. if they want to.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 04:42 PM

Sounds bogus at first glance. "But when police arrived two days later they told the owners they could not help." The OWNERS have no right against invasion and damage of their property? If so, I think the cops are pussies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 06:34 PM

Guy from the streets once told me, "Every cop has a price, even if it's just to eat his doughnut in peace."


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 08:51 PM

I am here to tell you, anyone want a squirrel I got thousands. They critters run all over my yard. I got grey's I got black, I got fox, I got reds ... I even have a grey with a black tail ...

There is just so much food for them in the big farming area. The reds are destructive critter, they dig a hole in your roof. The others pretty much just run around and bother nothing except occasionally get fried running across the power lines. I live trapped several reds and took them in the woods to get them away from the houses. My neighbors are not so concerned, they just get out the 22 rifle


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 08:55 PM

by the gnu, bear is right , they are easy to catch in survival. You make a drop trap. Heavy rock balanced on a small trigger made from sticks. Bait it near the tree. I used mushed up acorns or pretty much any seed. They touch the trigger, the rock drops ..wack .. ya got a squirrel dinner.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 10:15 PM

Once when I was in the bloody Army I got into a very boring discussion with a guy from Out West who was bragging on how he and his buddies went hunting. They had the best of everythng, used the best techniques, and of course ALWAYS shot their deer, elk, bear, mastodon, T-Rex, or rabbit.

When he paused to sip his beer I mentioned the the Illinois National Guard let us use weapons for hunting. I told him how we'd find a likely patch of woods and grid it off on a map and then send someone in with a AN/PRC-6 (walkie-talkie, a/k/a a "Prick Six"). When he'd find a target he'd call in "Target, A-17, 50 rounds high explosive, fire for effect" and we'd fire the 81mm mortars.

When asked what we were hunting I told him squirrels, and we were lumbering at the same time.

I don't think he believed me, but he changed the subject.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 10:25 PM

Dan... ya don't have to tell me how to get sqirrels or partridge or anything... even deer and moose... and trout in low water pools in hot weather... and porcupines in dead winter and...

I am two generations away from clawing a living out the fly infested bogs and poor soil and blizzards of Kent County, New brunswick, Canada. I am a good ol boy. I know my way around these here parts.

But... I ain't eatin any more rats with bushy tales unless I gotta drink my own piss ta wash em down. And that ain't gonna happen unless I get my own reality TV show and Bear drinks my piss too.

Oh, they might be tastety with lots of spices and such but I doubt Bear carries a lot of spices and cooking utensils. Hmmm... maybe his crew does?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 10:33 PM

LOL, he probably does carry his own spice. Ever eat a snake ... now that is some really rotten shit .... rattlers not too bad kinda like chicken that's stringy and boney :-) get yerself one of the Burmese pythons ... Now that is nasty


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Gurney
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 10:56 PM

My brother-in-law got well chopped up by a friend's pet squirrel. He said it just kept attacking him and was too fast to swat. Lots of stitches.

Bear Grylls eats things alive that I wouldn't touch with a spade.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Raptor
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 08:06 AM

Gnu I'd like to hear about you survival training.

It sounds like you have a few stories to tell.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Ed T
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 09:02 AM

Bear seems kinda high on TV? Could it be he is drinking reindeer piss?

Rocky mountain high


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 10:00 AM

I don't know if he was the one who "infiltrated" Ireland or not, but that was one of the dumbest shows I've ever seen on television.

First, the dude couldn't land at the base of Cliffs of Moher...in March...at high tide...in the wind coming from the land. Duh! I've been there then and could've told him.

Then he was secretly (with a camera crew?) going to cross on of the Lakes of Killarney. I knew the general area; if he would have walked down the road about a kilometer he would have found a nice warm pub, someone would have bought him a pint, and likely have driven him to the other side.

Never did answer my big question: Why are you infiltrating Ireland? The Garda looks unkindly upon those who avoid immigration and customs and the locals probably thought you were daft.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 10:09 AM

By the way, I could probably survive a few days in the wild myself. Of course I'd avoid climbing mountains I could walk around and swimming anything if it wasn't the absolutely last choice. Mostly I'd just make a nice base camp out of the wind, start a fire, and stay put. After a couple of days I'd make a couple more fire (preferably to make a triangle) and have wet stuff like leaves ready to make smoke. Food? I'd start preparing cordage for fishing lines and/or snares and see what sorts of edible plants were handy.

Of course, if you give me my survival kit things would be easier but I could do it from scratch if I had to. I'd really like some clothing, though, even in Summer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 11:04 AM

Absolutely true Rap ... that is the best way for sure. Bear takes way too many risks .. a broken leg in the bush or any type of bad injury and you are dead. If one has to walk out ... gotta be smart about it. Slow and steady follow the river not try to run the rapids in a grass boat for gosh sakes. The best survival expert on the planet is Cody Lundine on that show dual survival. Except he is barefoot all the time. The guy knows exactly what he is doing


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Ed T
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 12:04 PM

""Bear takes way too many risks""

That's because he is high as a kite from drinking all the urine, and he fidgets and moves around alot because he has the worms, from eat'n all the uncooked wild stuff.

I'd wager it's not all set up and scripted ahead;)

ya right!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 02:46 PM

Raptor... well, I do have stories. I can think of one right off that I have never posted on this site. Select the right pine in the right place... many large braches and next to fairly shallow water next to a pool. Jam small maples in the bed to form a "funnel". Throw rocks in the pool in a fashion which will scare fish. Dip net them as they go thru the funnel.

Then, MOST importantly, after they are killed, snag em with a fish hook and remove the hook... I'll let you figure out that last part. >;-)

I have another one for trout but I am pressed for time a bit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 03:07 PM

Dam a shallow pool with fish in it and stir up the mud. That depletes the oxygen and the fish come right to the surface. Or use a gorge. Or make a V-shaped dam, open at the narrow end, and spear the fish as they come through...or put a net/fish trap at the mouth. Catching fish is easy if you don't have to obey all of those laws. Why, I got my license just the other day and would you believe that fish poison, electricity, explosives, shooting, seining, trot lines, jugging and fish traps are all illegal?

Six mushroom hunters in Oregon were rescued from five days out in the wilds a couple days ago. They found a big ol' dead tree and used it for shelter from the wind, built a fire, built a roof out from the tree and a reflector behind the fire -- and stayed put. A little hunger never hurt anyone and you can carry water purification tablets. Even "dirty" water is better than no water -- there's no need to drink your own urine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 03:34 PM

Sorry, it was three mushroom hunters holed up for six days in a hollow tree in Oregon. I was relating only the first reports I read.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 12 - 08:49 PM

Raptor... iffin yer lookin fer a tastey snack when yer hungry and away from the farm, keep yer eye out for a silver birch around 40 to 60 feet tall with the top branches gone. Easy to spot from far away. When ya get to it, you will be able to see if a porcupine has made a nest. 99% of the time, yup. And if yer in a bunch a them, yer good for days if not weeks. If so, grab a stout stick and sharpen it and beat on the trunk (or wait until dawn or dusk).

Porkies taste like sweet pig on accounta they eat bark and suck the juice... mainly from maple and other smooth bark trees. They will strip the bottom few feet of firs but only if they can't get at the others. When ya see any low stripping, it usually means an old or infirm porky that can't climb. Back in the old days (even now, I suppose), when low stripping was seen on a farmers land, the hunt was on big time. THAT porky was goin down ASAP! Sound cruel? No. Losing a dozen or so trees a day just ain't acceptable. And porkies are tastey. Win-win for the farmer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Feb 12 - 11:30 PM

They're also greasy and good to eat only when you got nothing else. Maybe their taste depends on what they've been eating.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 06 Feb 12 - 11:49 PM

I have eaten about everything that walks flies, crawls or swims ...
Even about every type of bug or worm even maggots ...

Maggots are not too bad actually, as long as you don't think about what you are eating. They have 10 x the protein as meat but not for the faint of heart. Wash em off first if ya got water, if not rub them on grass or leaf something so ya don't get anything the maggot was eating.

Now ya see why I don't do the survival thing anymore ... you learn to puke a lot


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Gurney
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 01:54 AM

Maggot-riddled meat is actually easier to digest than fresh meat!
Because maggots spit out pepsin and suck back the resulting part-digested soup, and because their pepsin is close to ours, our ancestors just used to scrape off the maggots and cook the meat. If they bothered to cook the meat.
Things like Worcester Sauce were invented to disguise the taste of rotting food, and Curry was invented to disguise the smell too.
I'll take O.D.'s word about the taste of maggots neat, though.

The information about maggots comes from 'The Life of the Fly,' by the naturalist Fabre. Because my head is stuffed with things like that, I can't learn new songs easily. I think my memory is full.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 09:47 PM

Raptor... if ya sit in the one by ones (pines one inch at the butt and one inch apart) alongside an open fern space on the northerly side, which ain't easy, in late afternoon/eve where birch are makin their way to a beech grove or some such, ya can grab em with yer bare hands.

If yer up country in fly season, find a patch a yer ferns and bed down. No flies if yer below the tops of the ferns. Hides yer scent fer later too, on accounta, although such practice is illegal at that time of year, deer and moose know that trick about flies and it makes them easy to hunt. You can lay there and wait for them or go down wind.

I could have been a Bear but I am too fat. Dad taught me me too well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 10:44 PM

As my youngest brother told me after he finished USAF survival school, maggots are good for you. A great protein source. Also they eat away only dead or infected flesh so if you're wounded you can allow maggots to eat away. Then you can eat the maggots. "Just like farming," he said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 03:23 PM

Raptor... most people think you should be stealthy and quiet when hunting. Depends on the situation. Sometimes, making odd noises will bring game, especially moose but that is well known, I am sure.

My old man taught me how to "scratch out" a birch (ruffed grouse). Take a small stick and imitate a birch scratching leaves to get at bugs and such. Another is to find a rock embedded in the ground but exposed. Ya "drum them out" by tapping your heel on the rock imitating a birch drumming (my own invention). I can do the same thing when I know they are close by blowing air through almost pursed lips and passing my hand in front of my mouth imitating a birch drumming (my own invention). That works VERY well when thay are close but under cover.

I can call white tails by burping and it works better than any call you can buy or make (my own invention). Of course, ya gotta know what to do after you call. And that's another thing most people know.

I know I shouldn't post the following... never go into the woods without fishing hooks, line and copper wire, no matter where you are going or what time of year it is. If ya don't "get that" right away, think about. I ain't gonna explain it in here. It's too cruel. Thank goodness I never had to do it. But, I was taught how just in case.

Gee, I can think of so many other things. I really should write that book about photographing our native species.

JUST remembered. My old man was teaching winter survival in Nova Scotia in WW2. He used to take on new troops, train them in NS, on board ship to England and then in England and repeat. Nobody was allowed live ammo on this part of the training. He shot a deer. The sgt was very upset. Dad asked the men, "How many of you have cleaned and butchered a deer?" Few raised their hands. Dad said to the sgt, "Change in curriculum."


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 04:31 PM

Bring a tampon or two. You laugh but the case is waterproof and it is the best material in the world to catch a spark and build a fire.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 04:54 PM

Great advice Dan. Advice on fires is is one of the most important things for survival. I spent too many nights in the woods in winter. Got bronkyeritis that ain't no fun but I got that from sleeping in truck camper that had a propane heater! Fact is, I was sleeping in the bunk over the cab of the truck on a 4" mattress. Too cold on the ribs! I shoulda stacked fir branches on it like I did on top of the snow when I slept in lean-tos. >;-)

BTW, I NEVER slept in a "real" lean-to. I preferred a lean-to built like an igloo with a low ceiling (3 feet) and no fire.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 05:16 PM

I simply don't understand why you would want to make things harder.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 06:00 PM

Yea you can find any dry stuff naturally to catch a spark .. the tampon things weighs nothing to carry. Great for dressing a wound also.   But if you use sticks and a bow you need 800 degrees of friction and need something to catch the coal. Lots of natural material yes .. but if you got a tampon it works great


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 06:46 PM

We carried menstrual pads in Basic Training to pad our elbows and knees when crawling over rocks. The instructors got annoyed if they caught you doing this, but I can assure you that crawling over sharp rocks and broken bricks, through barbed wire while machine gun bullets flew overhead and explosions went off, made it worth the risk.

Menstrual pads are also useful in first aid in place of field, or carlisle, dressings.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Gurney
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 11:08 PM

When I camped rough, I always carried matches that had had their heads dipped into the molten wax under the flame of a burning candle.
Only works with friction matches, not safety matches, of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 11:31 PM

We used to roll the heads around in a block of wax rather than dip them into the melted stuff. Worked just a well.

Nowadays I look for stormproof, windproof, waterproof (lifeboat) matches. I also carry a couple of other firestarters and a couple kinds of tinder (including 0000 steel wool). The tinder is kept in the plastic container for diabetic test strips.

The kit also contains a small knife (about a 1.5 inch blade), a locking blade of course, and other things I might need.   Put a couple or three quart ziploc bags in too. You can put some toilet paper in one of the bags -- it's useful for more things than what it's intended for, and THAT is better than using leaves or smooth stones.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Gurney
Date: 09 Feb 12 - 12:53 AM

Get 'em while you can. In a Dick Francis book, the adventurer hero used the plastic cases that 35mm films come in. Quote: They weigh nothing and they're everything-proof. Like Rap., he had a kit, too. His also contained a flexible saw,-a toothed wire, and fish-hooks, which also catch birds, and work-gloves.

I use those film cases for fish-hooks. The hooks are anointed with olive oil, which makes them rustproof, and the (local) fish quite like it.
They do not seem to like WD-40 or CRC.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,Klumper
Date: 09 Feb 12 - 08:45 AM

This all sounds like a hell of a lot of extreme excessive overcautious preparation
just to nip out to the corner shop for a pint of milk and a newspaper ???


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 09 Feb 12 - 08:52 AM

Naw, when I would go out it would be very minimal .. that was the fun.. a couple of tampons maybe, a flint, a knife ... maybe a plastic tarp or garbage bag .. nothing else just my coat and hat.. go out for a few days on a walk about. Always did real well


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 09 Feb 12 - 09:07 AM

Funny but true story, I was 14, deer hunting by myself (illegal but my dad had died and I wanted to go hunting).. cold cold ... Well I got turned around way the heck out in the bush. I had shot a very nice buck. I couldn't find my way out cause it was getting dark ... cleaned my deer, found a big big rock. Pushed away the snow and made a lean to .. spent the night. Next morning I found a dirt road, followed it and it lead to the highway. I hitched home with a dead buck and my rifle. A guy picked me up in his truck, tossed my deer in the back and drove me home. My mom said, where were You did you spend the night with your friends LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 09 Feb 12 - 09:15 AM

Talk about a different time and place huh ... who today would pick up a kid with a rifle and a dead deer hitching along a highway (can't stop laughing) and back then, back there it was perfectly acceptable. I was not going to leave my deer. That was a nice buck besides if I was lost, I wasn't going hungry LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Feb 12 - 09:43 AM

Well, there are still some places and people that would do that. Fewer than before, but they're still out there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Grylls is a pussy
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 12 - 02:55 PM

I took a nice buck once. The big fella (16) out-smarted me... just walked away behind a pine copse so I picked a trail as I just knew he going up a ravine. I went due north on a dead run (raining, no wind) along a redline. Back then, I could run. I went as far as I thought I needed to and went west until I got to the ravine. I waited. Finally, I knew he made a cut and had bested the 18 year old again. Lit up a smoke. Just then, a nice 8 came waltzing along.

After all was done. I headed south to get back to the field. A deer gets heavy in dense brush. Musta gone too far. Hmmm... I'll go west and surely I'll hit the field. FIVE times! I was working my way across a section of woods shaped so that I drug that deer over three miles. Came out in a field on another road.

Walked about six miles back to my car... 100 yards from the car, the FIRST vehicle to come along stopped and asked if I needed a lift! Went back to the farm and a little old lady answered the door. I asked her for permission to drive back on her land and get my deer... 4 times before she turned her hearing aid on. She said her son would be home for lunch soon and I could ask him. I drove to that deer as fast as I could. I heaved a 180 pond deer through the air onto the trunk in one motion, tied it up and took off faster than I went in.

I know that ain't really a survival story akin with this thread but I knew I wasn't gonna get permission so I went into survival mode. >;-)


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