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Subject: BS: Made in America From: Bev and Jerry Date: 14 Dec 11 - 11:58 PM This link has popped up in our email twice this week and we found it rather interesting. Bev and Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Bobert Date: 15 Dec 11 - 08:08 AM Diane Sawyer also did a piece where a family agreed to have everything that wasn't "Made in America" taken out of their homes... When they returned the house was completely bare, appliances and all... Then the family was tasked with replacing everything with American made products and the cost of the American made came in at less than the stuff that was removed... Very eye opening... Got me thinking about out trade deficits and our unemployment and thinking that if we really pushed American made products we could get our economy humming again... Makes you wonder what is keeping this push down??? The only thing I can think of is that the big box stores are in bed with the Chinese and the two of them are using their vast wealth to keep this story under the carpet... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Richard Bridge Date: 15 Dec 11 - 08:22 AM I'm surprised the US made replacements were cheaper. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Bill D Date: 15 Dec 11 - 10:44 AM It's a good thing shoes were not included in the deal. There simply aren't any mass production shoe companies here....and the few handmade shoes would blow that price differential out of the water! (I don't really believe they were able to replace everything in that house.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Little Hawk Date: 15 Dec 11 - 01:22 PM Terrific! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: GUEST,999 Date: 15 Dec 11 - 01:36 PM If Chinese-made goods were barred from Canada, Canadian Tire would go tits up. Until such time as people support the home team--read buy Canadian--our economy will suffer more than it has to. Tell the multinationals to get stuffed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: frogprince Date: 15 Dec 11 - 01:40 PM "(I don't really believe they were able to replace everything in that house.)" I strongly suspect that's correct. I remember a cartoon that had to have been over 35 years ago, intended to rag on people for buying non-American made items. It listed a whole string of imported items that one of the characters owned, by country of origin. Even at that time, the list included things that simply were not made in America. A camera,from either Germany or Japan, was included; can anyone name me a camera suitable for a serious photographer that was made in America? If so, when was it last produced? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: gnu Date: 15 Dec 11 - 02:04 PM There have been a number of different threads on this and related topics. I buy from my city, my province, my region, Canada, US and THEN elsewhere if I can't find it "here". Same for groceries, but just stuff like bananas... nothing from Asia except jars of mixed fruit in winter... on sale. I wish I could find a video... I think it was made by Loblaws... about the decline in food production in Canada and the fact that we are losing the ability to feed ourselves. Shocking and distressing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Jack the Sailor Date: 15 Dec 11 - 02:09 PM If it will cheer you up GNU, I am pretty sure that Canada is a net exporter of food. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: gnu Date: 15 Dec 11 - 02:48 PM Not at all JtS... it's only because of certain foods. Bread and water don't feed people properly. The video was dramatic and traumatic. 9... Chinese tire... have you seen any stuff on the net about their new warehouse? It's unreal. Huge. Trains roll into it and robots do the picking and distribution. Saaayyyy... anyone use the checkout-yerself riggins at the grocery store? SHAME ON YOU!!! I REFUSE TO WORK FOR THE GROCERY STORES FOR FREE AND PUT SOMEONE OUT OF A JOB. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Jack the Sailor Date: 15 Dec 11 - 03:08 PM Isn't it OK to send wheat to Costa Rica and Get banana's back? Ship fish and beef to the US in exchange for pop tarts and oranges? You could eat nothing but Canadian food and have a much healthier diet than your grand parents if you would just have canned and frozen fruits, meat and vegetables in the winter and spring. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 15 Dec 11 - 07:19 PM I suspect there is very little one could buy, from foodstuffs to electronics to major appliances to transportation, to fuel, to even housing, that is enough for one to live comfortably on 'made in America'. Many items are assembled in America, but are manufactured from non-American made components. Does the MiA crowd eschew those items? I find it hard to believe they have a very good living standard at a reasonable cost if they do. It is, indeed, a global economy...like it or not. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Stringsinger Date: 15 Dec 11 - 07:35 PM The only way to do this is to dismantle the WTO, NAFTA, the IMF and other Transnational banks and companies that have no allegiance to the US, while exporting American jobs, and maintaining offices here tax free. Another way is for America to raise tariffs on foreign imports, such as China etc. We need to keep American jobs safe at home. Another way is to support American trade unionism. The global economy is working against every country in the world because exploitation in jobs keeps workers in most countries in economic slavery. America has the technical know how to produce industrial based commodities without having to export unduly. This is what the American Revolution was about, opposition to British made goods such as furnished by the East India Tea Company and King George's investments. We need an economic revolution as well as a political system reform. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: kendall Date: 15 Dec 11 - 08:17 PM I have three automobiles, all three are American. Did you see on the news yesterday where China has a modern giant aircraft carrier? Why do they need an aircraft carrier? This is the sort of thing they are buying with the money we send to them for their inferior goods. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Jack Campin Date: 15 Dec 11 - 08:50 PM Why do they need an aircraft carrier? To defend themselves against the sort of country where anybody can think having three automobiles is either sane or morally acceptable? I once spent an afternoon walking along the shore of the Bosphorus. For hour after hour there was a parade of fully laden Chinese container ships sailing past, taking stuff to Russia, Ukraine and the Danubian basin. All of them dilapidated rustbuckets. I imagined what might be in there: hundreds of thousands of tons of trainers, polyester pants, plastic musical ashtrays, Hello Kitty alarm clocks, cigarette filters, trays for holding frozen fish, strimmer twine, rubber bands, Disney children's books in Hungarian, bus flooring, double-glazed window parts, pencil sharpeners, roof paint... it was like clinging on the wall of a rectum watching the shit go past. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: gnu Date: 15 Dec 11 - 09:08 PM Nope... the only way is to buy close to home. I do. If you don't, well, yer buyin them another warship and when you can't pay up, the jig's up. Smartin up er pay up... big time. That ain't rocket science but if ya keep buyin that shit it might lead to rockets. Seems to me I heard about somethin like that before... what's it called... history? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: frogprince Date: 15 Dec 11 - 09:31 PM Campin, I'll draw you a picture, though I really doubt that you'll give it any reasonable consideration. A man has three cars. If, on rare occasion, two of them are consuming fuel or otherwise affecting the world in any way at the same time, it is because two family members have need to go to different places at the same time. At least one of those cars is a very old vehicle, used a limited amount, which the owner keeps for the love of the style and character of cars of that period; it would otherwise be a pile of rust somewhere. The owner lives in a nice, decent, decidely modest home. There are millions of people for whom it is simply not viable to walk, ride a bicycle, or use public transportation for every single trip they make. You're blasting pious rant at someone who isn't anywhere near being an example of bloated capitalist consumption. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Jack the Sailor Date: 15 Dec 11 - 09:36 PM If a man in his golden age can't hold on to a couple of vehicles that have served him well and have something reliable for his lovely wife to drive just what is this world coming to anyway? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Jack Campin Date: 16 Dec 11 - 08:17 AM Multiply that kind of self-righteous insistence on a lifestyle where you "have" to have three cars by tens of millions, and you see why the US would need four Earths to make its consumption sustainable. If you have to destroy so much to live, move somewhere else. The car-based geography of America can't continue indefinitely; the only question is when and how it comes to an end, and how much destruction and mass murder it achieves before then. If not now, when? (The only consumers in America who are logical about this are the millenarians. If you're certain that Christ will destroy the material universe before your Prius next needs an oil filter, of course you don't need to care what you do to the planet). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Nigel Parsons Date: 16 Dec 11 - 08:29 AM "Buy your goods from America" "Everybody listen to the children go "Nah!" " |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: GUEST,EBarnacle Date: 16 Dec 11 - 09:45 AM Both of my last two American vehicles were made in Canada. LL Bean still sells some American made shoes. One line of the Atmospheric Water Generators I market is American made. The others are made in Trinidad and China. PS, that individual signing in as EB ain't me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Jeri Date: 16 Dec 11 - 09:49 AM It's de-cookied Ebbie, EBarnacle. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Jack the Sailor Date: 16 Dec 11 - 09:53 AM The auto industries in the US and Canada are highly integrated and subject to a treaty requiring a level of parity. Buying a North American brand assembled in Canada is the economic equivalent of "buying American" give or take 5-10%. Give the level of beneficial trade between the two countries, buying almost any Canadian good is, on average, about as good as buying American. Buy Canadian fish, the Canadian fisherman vacations in Florida. Buy Chilean fish, the Chilean fisherman goes to Rio. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Jack Campin Date: 16 Dec 11 - 10:12 AM And how many cars could American industry produce if they were required to use only American raw materials? If they were required to use only American raw materials and leave enough of them available for future generations at the end end of the process? If they were required to do that and not help drown whole nations in the sea? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: EBarnacle Date: 16 Dec 11 - 12:07 PM As Jack says, ingredients come from all over. The magnets in your hard drive--rare earth from China, although the US will soon be reopening rare earth mines. Your cell phone could not operate without African minerals. Medication--lithium from China, batteries, too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Jack the Sailor Date: 16 Dec 11 - 12:18 PM You two are way off topic. The thread is about supporting US jobs. Using a Moen faucet rather than an import is good for the US economy. The chromium in the plating or the rare earths for the electronics probably comes from the same mines. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Alice Date: 16 Dec 11 - 12:39 PM A home builder (who is also an economist) in my town decided to build a house completely with made in the USA supplies. He did it. He also compiled the list of suppliers, and ABC News faxed it around the country to architects and builders. Here is a video that explains what he did. Home Built in Bozeman, MT all Made In America Alice |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Alice Date: 16 Dec 11 - 12:46 PM The first message in this thread had the same link I just posted. Built in America is already being done, folks. Please spread the word. Tell every contractor you know about the supply list they can print out. Watch the video at the link (a quick ad is first) because it is well worth it. Alice |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Cap't Bob Date: 16 Dec 11 - 01:04 PM I found the following site on Facebook: http://www.americansworking.com/ Surprised at the number of goods produced in the USA. Most if not all of the brands will not be found at Walmart. I tend to use the site as much as possible. Cap't Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Cap't Bob Date: 16 Dec 11 - 01:07 PM Found the following link on Facebook: http://www.americansworking.com/ Intend to use it as much as possible. Cap't Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: pdq Date: 16 Dec 11 - 01:16 PM It is very good for the United States to have a healthy prosperous Mexico on its southern border. Plants build by US firms in Mexico have promoted a happy and successful Middle Class in Mexico, replacing (to some extent) the Wealthy Elite v. Hopeless Poor system that dominated Mexico since the Spanish Conquest. The rise of Mexico's Middle Class has enable them to buy more US goods and employ mre US workes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Alice Date: 16 Dec 11 - 01:24 PM Here is the web site of the builder in Bozeman, Montana, who compiled the original list and built the "all American home" featured by ABC News. His name is Anders Lewendal and the website is theallamericanhome.com. Here is a direct link to the list of suppliers: http://theallamericanhome.com/the-list/ Alice |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: Greg F. Date: 16 Dec 11 - 01:55 PM Plants build by US firms in Mexico have promoted a happy and successful Middle Class in Mexico... ROFLMAO!!! That's one of the best Bullshit excuses for the exploitation of Mexican labor I've ever heard !! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: GUEST,kendall Date: 16 Dec 11 - 02:10 PM Jack, Jacqui and I often go in different directions. Both of our main vehicle are fuel efficient. The third is a 1937 Packard that we drive on weekends up to 40 miles or so. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: gnu Date: 16 Dec 11 - 02:21 PM "exploitation of Mexican labor" Well, I would ask you this, "Why are Mexicans employed at these jobs." Pretty simple answer from the viewpoint of the Mexicans employed in these jobs, really. Or should I say answersssssss? The questions and answers availale for discussion are many and varied and require much more in depth analyses than this thread will ever be able to acheive. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Made in America From: gnu Date: 16 Dec 11 - 02:21 PM "Why are Mexicans employed at these jobs?" ?, of course. |
