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MorwenEdhelwen1 07 Dec 11 - 05:53 PM
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Subject: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 07 Dec 11 - 05:53 PM

Well, thanks everyone who offered their opinions on the Racial Stereotypes thread. I'm now officially starting work on the Dickens reworking of OT that was the subject of that thread, and in this one I'll be posting updates on how it's coming along so that anyone who might want to read about that can. (Sorry if that seems exhibitionist of me. I thought last night that some people might want to know how it's coming along).


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 07 Dec 11 - 09:30 PM

I've written about three and-a-half pages so far (improvement for someone who used to never be able to go beyond the first page). Can any writers on here offer tips on how to go ahead with a story?


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 08 Dec 11 - 03:09 AM

Refresh. anyone interested?


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 08 Dec 11 - 07:19 PM

Refresh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: GUEST,999
Date: 08 Dec 11 - 07:43 PM

Morwen, we are many of us interested. I look forward to seeing the results of your labours.

Keep in mind that books (stories) are NOT written by consensus, they are written by writers.

Love what you are doing, but I don't want to waste time influencing a mind that's been made-up for a while.

In short, write the damned story!


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 08 Dec 11 - 07:53 PM

999, have you ever had that bored feeling when you read your own stuff? You know thinking your own writing (or typing) is boring? That's what I nearly always get. And frequently too. And "what does any of this have to do with the other parts of the story?"


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 09 Dec 11 - 07:10 PM

Paul Theroux's latest book is partially about writer's block. He invents a fabulous woman character and recovers.

I remember seeing a copy of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address covered with corrections by a teacher. Reduced the speech to dull cubed. Beware!
I edited papers for publication (technical, scientific) and wrote some myself. Probably destroyed any ability I had for creative writing, so all I can offer is bland like mashed potato without butter and salt.

But maybe- take your subject, make it ridiculous and fantastic- just might loosen the block.


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: Paul Burke
Date: 09 Dec 11 - 07:24 PM

Morwen:

I don't want to be captious, but you seem to post a lot to threads you've started yourself, and that comes across as a bit wrong. There might be a parable about writing here: think about it lots, and write once.

As for Oliver Twist, make Brownlow a predatory paedophile, Fagin a Muslim, Sykes a wounded war hero, and get Bumble appointed commandant of Guantanamo Bay. Oh, and Oliver is a feral yoof.


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 09 Dec 11 - 08:43 PM

Oliver was a rather sickening little 'yoof.' And that cripple in that Christmas story.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Dec 11 - 05:06 AM

I don't wish to be harsh but why try to rework a book by one of the finest authors in the English language? Comparisons are almost bound to be to your detriment. Better to come up with something original,


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Dec 11 - 08:25 AM

If you think what you have written is boring and you're asking for help after three and a half pages, the prognosis doesn't look good and maybe you should consider a different project.To a writer, writing should be the most exciting thing he or she does, not a chore that has to be undertaken. It strikes me that you are relatively inexperienced if you've never got beyond one page before, and to undertake artewriting of Dickens is, quite frankly, like deciding to swim the Atlantic when you've never ventured beyond the nursery pool.

Have you considered taking a creative writing course? There you will learn about planning, plot and character construction and development, research, finding your style and much more. I don't think it's possible to teach someone to be a good writer but it is possible to show them how to learn the craft of writing.

It's always worth bearing in mind what Samuel Johnson said when asked to critique a young writer's work: "Your work is both good and original. Unfortuately, the parts that are good are not original and the parts that are original are not good".


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Dec 11 - 08:27 AM

should read, "a rewriting of Dickens".


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 10 Dec 11 - 03:32 PM

One of the Finest Authors ?????? He wrote some tearjerkers. Now Kipling - there was an author !


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 10 Dec 11 - 07:08 PM

I'm not asking for help. I have this feeling all the time. It's the reason why I never finish anything.


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 03:42 AM

Sorry for that! FWIW, I was thinking I might work on something else for a while and see if I get more ideas for the Dickens one when I'm not thinking. That may help :).


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: Mr Happy
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 09:32 AM

Charles Dickens reworked comes out 'Chicken Salerds' !!


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: Will Fly
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 10:02 AM

Or 'He licks dancers'...


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: theleveller
Date: 21 Dec 11 - 09:35 AM

Or 'darkens cliches'


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Subject: RE: BS: Morwen's Dickens reworking
From: Mr Happy
Date: 21 Dec 11 - 10:14 AM

He licks dancers? - not morrismen, I hope!


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