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Sea song from Yarmouth

pavane 09 Jan 08 - 03:30 AM
pavane 09 Jan 08 - 03:31 AM
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GUEST,PMB 09 Jan 08 - 03:50 AM
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Waddon Pete 09 Jan 08 - 04:03 AM
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Subject: Sea song from Yarmouth
From: pavane
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 03:30 AM

I just found the following in a 1918 book on the Herring fishery, and wondered if it is already known. Unfortunately, Google books will not show me the full item, just the one verse, and to get the rest, I would have to track down the book.

The farmer has his rent to pay
Haul you joskins haul
And seed to buy, I've heard him say
Haul you joskins haul

But we who ?plough the North Sea deep

And that's all I can see!

You can see it here:
http://books.google.com/books?lr=&id=e7gEAAAAMAAJ&dq=herrings+dutch+method&q=yarmouth&pgis=1


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Subject: RE: Sea song from Yarmouth
From: pavane
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 03:31 AM

Here is a blue clicky to the image:

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Subject: RE: Sea song from Yarmouth
From: pavane
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 03:42 AM

I have managed to extract another snippet, the end of the song

The harvest which to all is free
And Gorleston Light is home for me
Haul you joskins haul

This old chantey, sung by the East Coast.....


Another snippet


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Subject: RE: Sea song from Yarmouth
From: pavane
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 03:45 AM

Apparently they accompanied the song on an accordion which they called a 'mewsic' (music!!!!)


the next bit


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Subject: RE: Sea song from Yarmouth
From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 03:50 AM

"There was her with her music, all along the street,
And me with me tambourine keeping up the beat"...


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Subject: RE: Sea song from Yarmouth
From: pavane
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 03:52 AM

PMB, I don't understand the relevance?


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Subject: RE: Sea song from Yarmouth
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 04:03 AM

Hello Pavane,

This is interesting.....we need a local on the case!

BTW joskin is another word for a bumpkin!

Best wishes,


Peter


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Subject: RE: Sea song from Yarmouth
From: pavane
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 04:10 AM

I did find the meaning of joskin, as a rural dweller or bumpkin, as you say.

I just came across this song by accident, when researching my Dutch ancestor who ran a herring fishery in London and Yarmouth c1805 to 1820


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Subject: RE: Sea song from Yarmouth
From: pavane
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 04:15 AM

As this book was published in the UK, there will be a copy in the British library. We just need someone with access who could get down there and copy the page.
I doubt that there will be any indication of a tune though.


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Subject: RE: Sea song from Yarmouth
From: GUEST,Suffolk Miracle
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 08:17 AM

Bob Roberts had a version of this. He called it the Yarmouth Shanty, though clearly it is a net hauling song rather than a shanty. He published it in EITHER Slice of Suffolk OR Breeze for a Bargeman. Unfortunately due to a recent move my copies are boxed up and I can't check
From memory the missing lines are:

We who plough the North Sea deep
We never sow, we always reap

We reap the harvest of the sea
And Gorlestone Light is home to me

Heave her up and heave her down
And heave her back to Yarmouth Town

Joskins were the leather overtrousers that farm workers wore at harvest time to protect their legs against being cut nby the schyle or sickle. In winter when there was litle work to do on farms many agricultural labourers were laid off, and in order to earn a little money they worked on the fishing boats. Since they had no desire to do this long term they rarely went to the expense of buying proper oilskin trousers - they just wore their joskins. Real fishermen therefore referred to these part-time bumpkin sailors as Joskins.


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Subject: RE: Sea song from Yarmouth
From: GUEST,Suffolk Miracle
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 08:41 AM

Schyle is a typo for scythe and not an obscure Suffolk musical instrument! Although now I think back on it, what the world calls a scythe tended to be called in Suffolk a sickle, and what the Soviet flag called a sickle was called a billhook. Which brings me to the term 'a music'
A Music in Suffolk was primarily a musical instrument of unspecified nature -'He yu brought yu music wi yu boi?' could be anything from a whistle to a hammer dulcimer. But by far the most popular instruments in Suffolk were squeezy ones; and these were generally called accordians. An accordian was rarely anything the Hohner company would recognise. All melodians were accordians and quite often concertinas were as well!


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Subject: RE: Sea song from Yarmouth
From: pavane
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 09:43 AM

OK, so it is a known song after all.

(I play melodeon & concertina myself, so I know what you mean. Useful to sailors as they were small and fairly robust)


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