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BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 Dec
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Subject: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: katlaughing Date: 20 Dec 07 - 07:24 PM I was excited to hear there will be a live webcast of the Solstice at Newgrange in Ireland! You may read more about it at Heritage Ireland.. Here's the blurb from the World on PRI: The Newgrange solstice event will be streamed in a live webcast beginning at 8:30 a.m. unlike other webcasts, Tuffy says this one isn't entirely focused on earthly images: "Some people suggest that when the light shines into the chamber, that because it's a burial place, that perhaps the spirits of the dead or the belief was 5,000 years ago, that the beam of light would carry the spirits away from the chamber to be reborn." Among those planning to witness the online Solstice event is musician and folklorist Áine Minogue: "I think its magical the idea of our ancestors speaking to us a thousand years before Stonehenge was built I think its just stunning that you can actually see it online and share in." Minogue calls Newgrange a sacred place that partly inspired the music on her album Between the Worlds. She says she tried to capture the feeling of standing in that inner chamber when the sunlight streams in, when the ancients contemplated the divine, a moment she describes as a "crack" in time: "It's the idea that the veil between worlds is very thin during these cracks in time ...because these Celts had several other worlds that they believed in, a land of eternal youth, a magical world under the ocean and one also one beneath the ground." Any talk of a land of eternal youth or a magical undersea world sounds like fantasy to most modern ears. But not so long ago, the idea of a virtual world or the Internet, didn't even exist. Now all of these worlds will converge. If the skies are clear, and the sunlight streams into the ancient Newgrange tomb tomorrow, millions are expected to see that image streamed online. Hopefully the ancients approve. For The World, I'm David Leveille. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: artbrooks Date: 20 Dec 07 - 07:53 PM Kat, is that 8:30 local (UK) time? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: curmudgeon Date: 20 Dec 07 - 08:46 PM When will it happen Mudcat time? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: Brendy Date: 20 Dec 07 - 09:02 PM 8.30 local time 02.30 tomorrow (21st) morning, Mudcat Time. .... somebody else calculate that as well..., just to make sure. B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: Brendy Date: 20 Dec 07 - 09:08 PM Thanks, by the way, kat. B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: katlaughing Date: 20 Dec 07 - 10:35 PM You're most welcome, Brendy. Thanks for letting us know it is local Ireland time. According to the Time Zone Converter it would be 130a in Colorado, where I am. That would mean it would be 330a Mudcat time, as I am 2 hours behind Mudcat. That's what the time converter says for Philadelphia, PA, 330a, which is close enough to Mudcat to calculate. Heck, I may stay up late tonight. 130a I can do, later and I don't think I'd be awake!**bg** Thanks, folks. Merry Solstice to you! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: Brendy Date: 20 Dec 07 - 10:44 PM Thanks kat. And to you and Rog as well. It should be well worth the vigil 03.30 Mudcat time, it is, then... 09.30 CET (my time-zone) B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: katlaughing Date: 20 Dec 07 - 11:30 PM Oh, Brendy, I thought you were on Ireland time? Maybe I didn't calculate it right? I just picked Dublin from the list available at that site. what is "CET?" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: Brendy Date: 20 Dec 07 - 11:48 PM I'm 1 hr ahead of GMT (Dublin time) kat, in Denmark. CET means Central European Time (it is 05.45 here at the min). I subtracted an hr when I was making my calculations. 03.30 Eastern Time would correspond with 08.30 GMT ... now that kind of thing confuses the hell out of me.... ;-) B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: katlaughing Date: 20 Dec 07 - 11:51 PM Oh, I shoulda known that! Thanks, Brendy. Confuses the hell outta me, too! So, only about 3.5 hours to go for me. You're up early.:-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: Brendy Date: 21 Dec 07 - 12:06 AM 3.5 hrs from here, too..., so the mathematics worked... LOL I'm on a 36 hr rhythm at the min. It happens for the first month or so after a season of gigging. By the time I get back to normal again (bed 11pm, up 7am), it's nearly time to go back on the road again. I'll probably hit the sack sometime after sunrise... ... thereby avoiding all the 'Dracula' quips... I've been in the burial chamber at Newgrange many times, but there is an application system in place there if you actually want to be present in the chamber at sunrise. I think it is around 50 years 'long 'at the minute I think it's a brilliant idea. The oldest building in the World; built 500 years before the Giza Pyramids, and a good 1000 years before Stonehenge..., and the sun shines through a gap the size of a shoebox. Ingenious. Here is The Newgrange Website B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: alison Date: 21 Dec 07 - 12:41 AM brilliant - so that's 7.30pm Sat Sydney Oz time they used to do a simulation of what it would look like when they did tours of Newgrange (might well still do)- I remember standing in the dark and watching the light moving up the chamber - even that "fake" solistice could raise the hairs on the back of your neck thanks slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: Brendy Date: 21 Dec 07 - 12:49 AM Yep, that's right, alison.... It's amazing, actually, how many people can't handle that few seconds of total darkness when they begin that demonstration. How are you, anyway, alison? Are you keeping OK? B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange online! From: katlaughing Date: 21 Dec 07 - 02:19 AM Arrgghh...that's just when they start the broadcast. It may take a bit of time for it to start, according to this: If conditions are good the rising sun will illuminate the passage and chamber between 8:58am and 9:15am GMT (Greenwich Mean Time). The good news is if you miss it the first time, they will be doing it tomorrow, too, that is on the 21st and 22nd. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: Brendy Date: 21 Dec 07 - 02:53 AM I have my speckled white robe, golden sickle, and sprig of misteltoe at the ready... The sun has risen here in Denmark, but it is fairly overcast at the min. Here's the Irish Weather as reported by RTÉ, Ireland's National Broadcaster.... B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: Brendy Date: 21 Dec 07 - 03:08 AM ... Leinster looks as if it'll be sunny enough today, so where there's light, there's hope. Hang in there, kat... ;-) B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: katlaughing Date: 21 Dec 07 - 03:30 AM See ya there, Brendy! I'm going, right....now! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: Brendy Date: 21 Dec 07 - 03:38 AM Feckin' server's offline, it says, here.... Tried it in Firefox & IE..., zilch so far. It says the server's taking too long to respond... :-( B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: katlaughing Date: 21 Dec 07 - 03:39 AM Looks as though their system has overloaded. I keep getting a "problem loading page!" I'll have to ask Rog to set up a satellite dish from the station and try to get it tomorrow night, if it doesn't let me in, soon. *sigh* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: katlaughing Date: 21 Dec 07 - 03:39 AM Same here. Good news is, if I do with Rog's help, tomorrow, we may be able to record it, too! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: katlaughing Date: 21 Dec 07 - 03:40 AM Maybe the Spirits aren't willing.:-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: Brendy Date: 21 Dec 07 - 03:43 AM I'll set my sat up, I think, in time for tomorrow..., should have foreseen something like this (even though I'm not a druid...). A DVD of it would be grand to have, alright... I'll keep at it for another while, though B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: katlaughing Date: 21 Dec 07 - 03:47 AM Sounds good, Brendy. I am off ta bed, then. G'night/morning/etc.:-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: Brendy Date: 21 Dec 07 - 03:49 AM You too, kat. B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: Brendy Date: 21 Dec 07 - 04:04 AM No, I'm afraid that's it.... Over and out for this time. B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: katlaughing Date: 21 Dec 07 - 09:56 AM Well, at least they have it archived. No go on the sat, here. Rog says we can't get an Atlantic bird. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: Les in Chorlton Date: 21 Dec 07 - 10:03 AM What I find really exciting is the mathematical, technological and scientific knowledge and understanding that the creators of Newgrange must of had. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 Dec From: Cats at Work Date: 21 Dec 07 - 10:15 AM What an amazing experience. Can't wait for tomorrow as well. solstice Blessings. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: katlaughing Date: 21 Dec 07 - 10:38 AM According to an email I received: Unfortunately the weather forecast(is) not good for tomorrow morning, I assume there will be a webcast of the highlights available later. That was in response to an email I'd sent asking them to get another webhost so more people could view the live webcast. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: ard mhacha Date: 21 Dec 07 - 02:04 PM It was one of the best viewing mornings ever, I hope to-morrows weather is as good, the forecast isn`t promising. I have visited Newgrange on a number of times, before the authorities attempted to create the site as they imagined it to be, when it was first built, the old site was much more exciting, they over done the `make-up`. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: Brendy Date: 21 Dec 07 - 06:00 PM Just saw the webcast.... Nice one. Happy Solstice everybody! B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 Dec From: Micca Date: 21 Dec 07 - 07:22 PM I watched the rerun and half way through muted the sound, WHY did those 2 Amadán feel they had to TALK all the way through such a profoundly moving visual expierience???, it could have ruined a deeply Religious and Spiritual moment! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: Brendy Date: 21 Dec 07 - 07:29 PM I know what you mean... it wasn't a football match after all. I was waiting for them to break out in a verse of 'Here Comes The Sun'. The downed server made the RTÉ News website. RTÉ plan to show the webcast tomorrow. Bigger servers I imagine... B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 Dec From: Micca Date: 22 Dec 07 - 02:28 AM Brendy, LOL, " Here comes the Sun"!! didnt think of that but it would not have surprised me!!!, they were a PRIZE pair of amadán!!, I would adise anyone viewing to kill the sound part of the web cast at an appropriate moment, or view the recording without it at all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: Brendy Date: 22 Dec 07 - 04:14 AM It's live again..., but the weather isn't as good... Kill the sound this time, too ;-) Click on the link again. B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: Brendy Date: 22 Dec 07 - 04:22 AM ... but the sunrise is recorded from '"Thursday 21st December 2007" God Bless Ireland, eh? B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 D From: Brendy Date: 22 Dec 07 - 04:29 AM She said it, Micca... "Here Comes The Sun..." LOL B. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Live at Newgrange 830GMT 21 &22 Dec From: Micca Date: 22 Dec 07 - 09:15 AM some people are SOOOOOO Predictable.....shame she had one of those voices that set my teeth on edge as well! |
