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SEAN SOUTH


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GUEST,Mairia Cahill 29 Oct 07 - 07:40 PM
dick greenhaus 29 Oct 07 - 10:44 PM
Peace 29 Oct 07 - 10:51 PM
Peace 29 Oct 07 - 10:57 PM
Big Mick 29 Oct 07 - 11:01 PM
John MacKenzie 30 Oct 07 - 05:16 AM
Kenny B (inactive) 30 Oct 07 - 01:21 PM
Kenny B (inactive) 30 Oct 07 - 01:30 PM
Kenny B (inactive) 30 Oct 07 - 01:35 PM
Shaneo 30 Oct 07 - 02:30 PM
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Shaneo 30 Oct 07 - 02:47 PM
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Peace 30 Oct 07 - 05:49 PM
Big Mick 31 Oct 07 - 08:38 AM
Peace 31 Oct 07 - 11:38 AM
GUEST,mairia cahill 01 Nov 07 - 06:29 PM
An Buachaill Caol Dubh 03 Nov 07 - 11:52 AM
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Subject: Lament for sean south
From: GUEST,Mairia Cahill
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 07:40 PM

hi, does anyone have a midi file of the tune for lament for sean south? some of the words are

He was born in limerick city, where the shannon waters flow
A lad of princely bearing as everybody knows
He loved his native language because it was his own
Oh let irishmen remember well, sean south of garryowen

i really need a hold of the tune of this song, i vagely know it but would appreciate if anyone has it could they post it on here, or send it to mairiac@hotmail.com

go raibh mile


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:44 PM

I believe it's sung to the same tune as Roddy McCorley.


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Peace
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:51 PM

Sean A Gra


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Peace
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:57 PM

'Sean South From Garryowen' is sung to the tune of Roddy McCorley.

The words to 'Lament' seem not to scan. However, that's just a guess on my part.


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Big Mick
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 11:01 PM

Not the same tune, Dick. As Peace correctly points out, the song "Sean South of Garryowen" is sung to the tune of Roddy McCorley. I am not familiar with the tune of "Lament for Sean South" but I am sure it will come around here soon. I will do some checking in the meantime.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 05:16 AM

Background here you should find all the info you need from this page, including a You Tube link to the Wolf Tones singing it.
G.


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 01:21 PM

For what its worth
If you leave out the comma on the first line it can fit the Sean South / Roddy McCorley Tune
Could be wrong I was once b4
Might be an additional verse either sung slowly at the beginning or end of the traditional stirring song?

He was born in limerick city where
the shannon waters flow
A lad of princely bearing,
as everybody knows
He loved his native language,
because it was his own
Oh let irishmen remember well,
Sean south of garryowen


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 01:30 PM

See also Site with "preceding poem"


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 01:35 PM

Sorry Blue Clicky (or should it be a green clicky for an Irish song )didnt work

Sean South with optional Intro Poem


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Shaneo
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 02:30 PM

He was born in limerick city where
the shannon waters flow
A lad of princely bearing,
as everybody knows
He loved his native language,
because it was his own
Oh let irishmen ne'er forget
Sean south of garryowen

As christmas eve was dawning near
he faced our ancient foe
But many had greeted him that day
for few had seen him go
But when his reddled body
Came home to rest amoung his own
There were thousands there to welcome back
Sean South from Garryowen

The wee ones in Fermanagh homes
Are asking where your gone
Where is the red haired soldier now
who spoke our Gaelic tongue
Beside the fire he drew for us
and spoke of Pearse and Tone
Oh mammt will we meet again
Sean South from Garryowen

A Sheain a ghra your resting now
with Ireland's noble dead
While Ulster fields are crimson
with the blood you gladly shed
May the God who reigns in heaven
take you to his kingly throne
And may Irishmen remember well
Sean South from Garryowen
__________________________________
Taken from The Republican paper , 'The United Irishman' in 1957.
The writer remains unknown as with many rebel song writers,


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Peace
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 02:39 PM

OK, now I'm confused. Are they both the same song under different titles?


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 02:42 PM

Well done Shaneo.
Was it a memory thing or thro Google, I tried google and didnt get a result.
Great
Kenny B


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Shaneo
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 02:47 PM

Different songs, same title. the one I placed above is also named Sean South From Garryowen signed as ''Glas is bui''
The other song of the same name but but more widely known was written by Sean Costello and from the singing of The Wolfe Tones with the poem at the start by Liam McGowan.


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Shaneo
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 02:54 PM

I got the lyrics from a recently released book 'Sean South From Garryowen' written by Des Fogerty, it gives a great insight the life of Sean, his childhood=his life with the F.C.A. [part time army in Ireland] and the training that came in handy while with the F.C.A while taking part in the raid on Brookeborough R.I.C station.
A great book and highly recommended to anybody with the slightest interest in Irish history .


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Peace
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 02:56 PM

Great work.


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: GUEST,Winger
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 03:04 PM

Shaneo,

That should read "Brookeborough R.U.C station".


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 03:08 PM

Thanks Shaneo


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: GUEST,Jim I
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 04:04 PM

Hi Giok
I tried to access the YouTube clip of the Wolfe Tones to find it had been removed due to 'terms of use violation'!

So it seems that folk music is censored whereas clips of people being beaten up and videoed on mobile phones are perfectly legitimate!


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Peace
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 05:49 PM

I was listening to the Wolfe Tones singing it yesterday on Youtube.


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Big Mick
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 08:38 AM

Folks, we are confusing the original request. The specific song that is being inquired about is "Lament for Sean South", not the song "Sean South of Garryowen" which is set to the tune of "Roddy McCorley". I have contacted some folks trying to track down the tune. I will be back.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: Peace
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 11:38 AM

Thank you, Mick.


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: GUEST,mairia cahill
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 06:29 PM

Thanks a million everyone for all the trying to find out about this song - i have asked a few people in belfast, and the tune is definately not the same as roddy mc corley, but a different tune entirely, i am trying to lay the tune down as we speak, but cant transfer it to midi. its a similar tune to banna strand, but not the same either. go raibh mile


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 11:52 AM

I've heard both the songs mentioned sung quite a few times over the years. That beginning,

"It was on a dreary New Year's Day, as the shades of night came down"

is sung to the air of "Roddy McCorley" (or something very close to it; more regular)

The other, as given by Shaneo above, is sung to the air of "She lived beside the Anner, at the foot of Sliabh na mBan"/Slievenamon.

There's a third, which I heard Dominic Behan sing (on a recording) which goes something like:

"Have you been   in Limerick green,
And through these woods and valleys
Where often Sean did gaze upon
The beauty of his coun-te-ree"   (i.e. with extra syllable)

(Maybe another verse here)

"And did you see him murdered be
Far from these woods and valleys,
Because he heard, because he dared,
To heed the call to rally"      (ra-ah-lee)

"And will you go to fight the foe
[From Sean Sabht's woods and valleys]   (I think)

(The only other lines I can recall are the last two of the final verse, and I don't think they can go with the two quoted immediately above) These last two lines are,

""'Oh, no' we cry, 'he did not die,
But lives for all eternity'"

Unfortunately, I don't recognise the air from any other song.

ABCD


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Subject: RE: Lament for sean south
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 05 Nov 07 - 02:45 PM

Managed to recall:

"And will you go... &c

Or is young Sean in vain now gone
And dead his dream of Liberty"

"Is it in vain his life's blood flows,
Far from ... &c
"Oh no, we cry... &c


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