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Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn (Ewan MacColl)
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ROUNDING THE HORN
THE AMPHITRITE
THE ANFORD-WRIGHT
Related threads:
Penguin: Rounding The Horn (11)
Lyr Add: The Amphitrite (15)
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Subject: Lyr Add: ROUND CAPE HORN (Ewan MacColl) From: Sky Sailor Date: 18 Sep 07 - 08:10 AM I couldn't find this in DT. It is from Ewan MacColl's 'The Manchester Angel'. ROUND CAPE HORN Ewan MacColl Our ship, she lay in harbour A ship of noted fame She lay in Plymouth harbour The 'Conway' was her name She's waiting there for orders To take her far from home Proceeding on a voyage Around the north Cape Horn As we was a-laying off the sound A-rigging of the sails We cleared old Plymouth harbour And showed the land our tail From ship to ship they cheered us As we went sailing on Proceeding on a voyage Around the north Cape Horn Now as we had been a-sailing Some five months and four days We sighted Valparaiso And anchored in the bay Them Spanish girls come aboard of us I solemnly declare They're far beyond your English girls With their knobby heads of hair They're far beyond your English girls Who on you will impose For when your money is all spent They'll pawn and sell your clothes They're far beyond your English girls For they're both kind and true For when your money it is all spent Some more they'll give to you Farewell to Valparaiso Farewell, then, for a while Farewell to yonder green mountains Farewell to yonder green isle And when our ship, she gets paid off We'll certain sing a song God bless them little Spanish girls We left around Cape Horn |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: TheSnail Date: 18 Sep 07 - 08:13 AM "north Cape Horn" ? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: Betsy Date: 18 Sep 07 - 08:16 AM Is there a bit of overlap with the Gallant Frigate Amphritite ?. Don't know the tune, but the stanza and content are very similar. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: Sky Sailor Date: 18 Sep 07 - 08:39 AM I'm sure it's a version of the same song. MacColl's tune is different from the 'Standard' A.L. Lloyd version. It leans toward 'The wild colonial boy'. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: Sky Sailor Date: 18 Sep 07 - 08:45 AM He definitely sings 'North Cape Horn'. Panama Canal perhaps? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: Charley Noble Date: 18 Sep 07 - 09:53 AM Sky Sailor- Ewan might mean "North from Cape Horn" after "rounding the corner" so to speak. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: GUEST Date: 18 Sep 07 - 10:07 AM The version was recorded by MacColl from Sam Larner of Winterton. We collected a shorter version from an elderly fisherman, John Goffin, a neighbour of Sam's. Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: Sky Sailor Date: 18 Sep 07 - 12:35 PM Thanks Jim It is the most 'singable' I have heard. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: Barry Finn Date: 19 Sep 07 - 02:37 AM Ewan oes sing it as "Around the north Cape Horn". There's a longer version of this which includes stopping at the port of Rio to be repaired or outfitted (can't remember which), that versions has it as "Around the Cape of Storms". The tune is not close to the standard tune to tha "Gallant Frigate Amphritite" & nothing like the "Wild C Boy " either. Sorry, I can't put up tunes but I can sing it into a telephone if any wants, pm me for my number. Barry |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: Bob Bolton Date: 19 Sep 07 - 03:40 AM G'day Sky Sailor and TheSnail, The other week I saw a documentary about Magellan's 'circumnavigation*' of the globe (*well, he didn't, did he, as he was killed before getting home...). The pertinent point is that he didn't really "round the Horn" - he sailed through a passage starting some 360 km to the north of the actual Cape Horn - aclled the Strait(s?) of Magellan ... very tortuous - but not facing into the teeth of the Roaring Forties. He came out somewhat closer to the Horn, at the western end - but what nearly defeated his ecpedition was the fact that the Middle Ages has ignored the Greeks' accurate measururement of the diameter of the Earth for a much reduced later guess. (This is also why Columbus was certain he had reached India or China!) Trouble is, I don't think anyone else went to the trouble of weaving through the Strait(s?) of Magellan ... over just tackling the Forties head on (and, in later years they sailed the "Circular Route" ... heading west all the way. It was much easier to sail around the world with the wind behind you all the way than to turn round and sail back against the Roaring Forties. Regards, Bob |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: Sky Sailor Date: 19 Sep 07 - 03:56 AM You can here a clip of the recording at this link: Here |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 19 Sep 07 - 04:01 PM The Straits were an important and much used passage, but many sailing vessels preferred the Drake Passage (around the Horn) because there was more room. At its narrowest, the Magellan route is 2 to 2 1/2 miles wide. A number of cruise ships make the trip through the Straits. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: Howard Jones Date: 19 Sep 07 - 06:15 PM It sounds like he's singing "A-rounding of Cape Horn" to me |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: TheSnail Date: 19 Sep 07 - 07:48 PM I agree. Makes more sense. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: EBarnacle Date: 19 Sep 07 - 11:27 PM Most if not all of the Drake Passage is Chilean territory and a friend told me that it is difficult to get visas to land in case of emergency when coming Easterly. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: TRUBRIT Date: 19 Sep 07 - 11:52 PM more years back than I care to remember, a college professor introduced me to The Manchester Angel -- I had always liked folk music but never really made it part of my life......then there was this marvellous LP (see how that dates me.....) called The Manchester Angel with the most wonderful songs in the world on it.....The Manchester Angel is still one of my all time favorites......not to mention Geordie..... |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn - Ewan MacColl From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 19 Sep 07 - 11:56 PM No visa fees for Canadians, UK or U. S. citizens with passports, but I understand that there IS a landing fee, which can be expensive for those not on tours. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn (Ewan MacColl) From: Barry Finn Date: 20 Apr 08 - 11:29 AM Anyone have the fuller version? Barry |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn (Ewan MacColl) From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 20 Apr 08 - 12:39 PM IIRC, the Larner/ MacColl tune is the same as that of "The Maid of the Sweet Brown Knowe." |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn (Ewan MacColl) From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 21 Apr 08 - 05:24 AM I have to say that 'The Manchester Angel' is my favourite recording of all time - and I had completely forgotten about 'Round Cape Horn'! As a result of this thread I got the LP out and played it again (it's a wonder it didn't fall to pieces considering how much I played it when I was younger!). There, sure enough, is 'Round Cape Horn' and it all came back to me. Nevertheless, I still think it's the least successful track on the record and the tune is a bit dull and plodding - especially when compared with 'The Gallant Frigate Amphitrite' in the Penguin Book. Perhaps that's why I had forgotten it (?) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn (Ewan MacColl) From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 21 Apr 08 - 09:50 AM I like both versions, though the "Sweet Brown Knowe" is less distinguished than the "Amphitrite" tune. BTW, as a young teenager, the English poet John Masefield trained as an apprentice on the schoolship HMS Conway in the 1890s. (As a school ship, that particular Conway wasn't sailing anywhere: its permanent berth was in the Mersey.) Masefield made only two voyages in his teens before leaving the sea. He wrote the nostalgic "Sea Fever" some years later. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn (Ewan MacColl) From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 22 Apr 08 - 05:47 AM See my comments in the notes to 'Rounding the Horn' in the revised edition of The Penguin Book of English Folk Songs, published by EFDSS in 2003 as Classic English Folk Songs. I suggest there that 'Conway' was probably the original name ('Amphitrite' being likely introduced by the singer William Bolton); the HMS Conway, laid down in 1828, was at Valparaiso in 1835. Darwin sent letters and specimens back to England on her just prior to embarkation on The Beagle. http://www.hmsconway.org/ |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn (Ewan MacColl) From: Mr Happy Date: 22 Apr 08 - 05:58 AM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:HMSConway2.jpg |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn (Ewan MacColl) From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 22 Apr 08 - 06:13 AM The school ship, of course, was not the one referred to in the song. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Round Cape Horn (Ewan MacColl) From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 22 Apr 08 - 10:05 AM Malcolm, you're right of course. I used to assume (always dangerous)before I looked into it that the ships were the same. Some others may also. As the websites show, there have been several "Conways." Only the first was originally so named. Her replacements were rechristened to carry on the tradition. |
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