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Subject: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Valmai Goodyear Date: 15 Sep 07 - 10:37 AM Wraparound trousers have been on sale at several folk festivals this summer and I bought a pair, thinking that they would be easier to put on in a tent than the standard model. Unfortunately they have properties both amusing and embarassing, depending on your point of view. They are all right when standing up but unwelcomingly revealing when the wearer sits, and the lower the seat (I mean chair) the worse the problem is. I'm not particularly fat, but when I sit down the blasted things lose all sense of cohesion and I appear to be sitting in a disorganised tangle of cloth which bears no resemblance to any sort of garment and is in danger of putting the treeline on display. Has anyone else had this problem? Has anyone a helpful solution? Draughtily, Valmai (Lewes) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: open mike Date: 15 Sep 07 - 11:41 AM are they like these? apparently tieing them at the ankle is part of the process http://www.purpleunicorn.shoppingcartsplus.com/wraps.html or like these? http://www.girlskirtmission.com/pants-sequence.htm or this.. http://www.houseofdra.com/Wrap_Pants_How_To.html http://www.houseofdra.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/WrapPantsRap1.gif but i do not think these could be called trousers.. more like pants.. or why not just wear a Utilikilt?! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Liz the Squeak Date: 15 Sep 07 - 12:18 PM They are great on a stick thin person as the overlap at the front should be enough for modesty sake but I found the slit went too far for comfort on chubbier legs. When I get around to it, I shall be modifying mine by sewing up the sides. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: open mike Date: 15 Sep 07 - 02:17 PM or extending the panels...more like a skirt? sometimes with wrap around skirts..i just ear two.. one tied in front and one in back |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: John MacKenzie Date: 15 Sep 07 - 02:20 PM No further comment. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: wysiwyg Date: 15 Sep 07 - 02:26 PM Velcro. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: John MacKenzie Date: 15 Sep 07 - 02:27 PM Whatever turns you on Susan G ¦¬] |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Peace Date: 15 Sep 07 - 04:14 PM I have one HELLUVA time with them . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: catspaw49 Date: 15 Sep 07 - 04:37 PM Okay........These things seem stupid but what do I know? And speaking of not knowing, wtf is the difference between pants and trousers? And I ain't going to ask about a "Utilikilt." Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Peace Date: 15 Sep 07 - 04:39 PM Pants is what ya do after taking yer trousers off and exerting yerself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: bobad Date: 15 Sep 07 - 04:42 PM And if ya overexerts ya gets kilt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Peace Date: 15 Sep 07 - 04:45 PM He ain't one to skirt the issue, that's fer sure. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: bobad Date: 15 Sep 07 - 04:57 PM No panty waist he. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: JennieG Date: 15 Sep 07 - 06:21 PM I think the difference is to do with the cut - if the bifurcated nether garment (like that?) has pleats at the front it is trousers. No pleats = pants. This discussion came up on my sewing list recently. Or if you wish to be right up there with it - trouser and pant. No s. He takes off his trousers and pants..... Cheers JennieG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Rapparee Date: 15 Sep 07 - 06:37 PM So, my pleated chinos are one thing and the ones with a straight front are another? What about the pair I have where the pleat came out of one side and not the other? Personally, I think Spaw would look absolutely DAHLING in a kilt.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Peace Date: 15 Sep 07 - 07:27 PM Be still my beating heart . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: catspaw49 Date: 15 Sep 07 - 07:42 PM You're beating what? What are you ..... Some kind of preevert or somethin'? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Valmai Goodyear Date: 15 Sep 07 - 08:05 PM Thanks, Open Mike. The specimen I have is most like your first 'Purple Unicorn' example, but without ties at the ankles. Even with those, I suspect that the whole outside leg gap would open up. I'm not stick-thin, but I'm a UK size 10-12 so generous curves shouldn't be that much of a problem. Velcro is all very well, but if the things need Velcro to function they approach the nuisance value of the garment they are supposed to replace. Valmai (Lewes) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Sep 07 - 08:17 PM I vote skip the nonsense and go back to regular pants. Take a blanket or a sheet with you of you need coverage when changing in a public place. It looks painful, trying to figure out how to make those wraparound ones work. Is all of that trouble in order to skip using a zipper or something? SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Valmai Goodyear Date: 15 Sep 07 - 08:20 PM Just to avoid having to stand up to put them on in a tent, not to avoid using a zip. Having bought a pair of the bloody things, I'd like to find a way of making them work without having to remember if I'm going to be on public transport a few hours after getting dressed. Valmai |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Amos Date: 15 Sep 07 - 09:02 PM Hell, get a dhoti, a sarong, or a wrap-skirt in sturdy no-nonse khaki. That way you can still hike the hemline up to heaven if the right opportunity comes along... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Sorcha Date: 15 Sep 07 - 09:33 PM Get a cod piece? Wear it under the trous? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Liz the Squeak Date: 16 Sep 07 - 01:59 AM For those having trouble imagining such a garment, think of an ordinary pair of trousers, with the outside leg seams removed and long ribbon ties instead of a waistband. The object is to tie the front of the trousers on first like an apron, and then, having passed the remainder of the garment between the legs, tie the back ties around the front, thus enclosing the 'danger area'. Access is gained by untying the front ties and dropping the back like the rear panel in what I believe was known as a 'union suit'. Velcro may solve the problem temporarily, but it has the potential for great embarrassment when sitting, if it rips with that characteristic sound, in public. Oh, and when they say "one size fits all", they lie. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: GUEST, Topsie Date: 16 Sep 07 - 05:05 AM I find they look great so long as you keep dancing, or STANDING at the bar - just don't sit down. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Blowzabella Date: 16 Sep 07 - 05:09 AM I've seen these - thought they looked fantastic, but suspected they probably wouldn't suit me. Having read how they go on, I'd be concerned about what happens when you need to go to the loo .... don't they all just fall onto the ground??? Not a good choice in festival portaloos - or when sailing and having to use a small loo in lumpy seas. (Taking into account that girls have to faff about with trousers more than men) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: GUEST, Topsie Date: 16 Sep 07 - 05:13 AM Definitely NOT easy to put on when in a small tent. As for portaloos, just make sure you only untie one bow, not both. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Valmai Goodyear Date: 16 Sep 07 - 06:16 AM Ah, well, I shall probably consign these to the oblivion of unwise purchases. They might do as a rather odd-shaped picnic tablecloth when camping in windy conditions, as the ties could be employed to secure them to the legs of the table. I'd wash them first, of course. Gadzooks! This could be the explanation of the strange line in the song 'The Light Dragoon Came Over The Hill'. After the chap has had supper at his girlfriend's: 'The light dragoon ran up the stairs Put his trousers on the table, And so nimbly he's jumped into the bed To do what he was able.' I'd long assumed that the fact that the light dragoon was able to put his trousers on the table meant that he had four legs. Now I realise that he must have made the same mistake as me and was trying to find a use for a wraparound pair. Tootle pip, Valmai (Lewes) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: lady penelope Date: 16 Sep 07 - 02:06 PM I have seen patterns for 'cheat' versions of these trousers. The waistband is a normal elasticated waistband, but you still get the effect of the trousers overlapping. Again, though, I've no idea how well they'd sit on anyone not built like a stick. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Rowan Date: 16 Sep 07 - 11:15 PM What a bother some people get into; even in one of those minitents I've always been able to get me strides off (and back on) without having to stand up. But my daughters roll around laughing if anyone ever mentions me and "style" in the same breath, so perhaps I'm well away. Cheers, Rowan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work Date: 17 Sep 07 - 03:34 AM I am built like a stick, but I need a bit of whittling! I found the best solution was to just take the ties off the front panel and sew the outer seams together down to the knee. Leave the ties on the rear and just fold the front into them when you tie the rear ties at the front. Leaving the seam from the knee down gave the nice airy, flowy feeling. I still don't like them much because of the lack of pockets, but at least I can wear them without frightening the horses (although they are tie-dyed lemon and egg yolk yellow) LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: GUEST,Crystal Date: 17 Sep 07 - 07:45 AM I have several pairs of these! My method is to place a sturdy safety pin about mid thigh. No more problems! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Dave Hanson Date: 17 Sep 07 - 08:57 AM Why don't you just wear jeans like normal people ? eric |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Rapparee Date: 17 Sep 07 - 09:12 AM Don't wear pants on stage. Problem solved. I had the same sort of problem a few years back, but my wife pointed out that if I turned my pants around the necessary opening would then be in the front. I tried that and danged near killed myself before she told me to take the pants off first. Well, live and learn I always say.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Herga Kitty Date: 17 Sep 07 - 06:25 PM Eric - read Valmai's post of 15 September 8.20. Anyone have better ideas for garments that can be donned in tents without standing up...? Sarong question? Kitty |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: vectis Date: 17 Sep 07 - 07:20 PM Just buy a caravan Valmai. No mor problems with standing like Quasimodo to get trousers on. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Dave Hanson Date: 18 Sep 07 - 02:06 AM Herga Kitty, shorts ? eric |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Liz the Squeak Date: 18 Sep 07 - 08:43 AM We just got a taller tent. There are some good ones available now, that don't take up huge amounts of space erect or packed away, but are tall enough for a mutant of 5'6" and taller to stand happily in. Us people under 5'3" can't see the problem. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: TheSnail Date: 18 Sep 07 - 09:35 AM People seem to be rather missing the point. Mrs Goodyear has her trousers. She is perfectly capable of putting them on without assistance. She has a tent she can stand up in. Her problem is how to sit down in public without inflamming the passions of the populace, receiving the censure of the clergy or frightening the horses (or any permutation of those three.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: lady penelope Date: 18 Sep 07 - 10:03 AM LOL! But this has already been addressed, TheSnail. Either by safety pinning or sewing up the flaps to a greater or lesser extent...depending on how much excitement Mrs Goodyear still wishes to engender.... *G* Now we is just having fun! Although I thoroughly reccommend a tent you can stand up in. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Valmai Goodyear Date: 18 Sep 07 - 12:32 PM Many thanks to everyone for the helpful suggestions; I may well try some of them. It's a bonus that this full and frank exchange of views has caused the muse to descend on The Snail and given rise to the 'Wraparoundsverse' thread. If my experiments are not crowned with success and horses, clergy, etc. continue to be frightened I may just fly the blasted things from the top of my tent like a heraldic banner. Valmai (Lewes) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 18 Sep 07 - 06:18 PM I wonder how long before the burkha will become the craze of the day? Don't worry about dressing in a tent - wear it all day... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Dave Hanson Date: 19 Sep 07 - 03:38 AM Just wear the tent FFS. eric |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: The Walrus Date: 19 Sep 07 - 07:27 AM "...Anyone have better ideas for garments that can be donned in tents without standing up...?..." A belted plaid? That can't be put on properly while standing up. W |
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Subject: RE: BS: Wraparound trouser problem From: Dave Hanson Date: 19 Sep 07 - 08:35 AM Condoms ? eric |
