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Lyr Req: Right Side of the Footplate

GUEST,Jacqued 09 Sep 07 - 03:45 PM
jonm 09 Sep 07 - 03:50 PM
GUEST,Jacqued 09 Sep 07 - 03:55 PM
pixieofdoom 09 Sep 07 - 06:04 PM
GUEST,henryp 09 Sep 07 - 07:23 PM
GUEST,Jacqued 10 Sep 07 - 08:10 AM
Shuffer 10 Sep 07 - 09:08 AM
GUEST,Jacqued 10 Sep 07 - 04:59 PM
breezy 10 Sep 07 - 05:13 PM
GUEST,henryp 11 Sep 07 - 07:20 AM
GUEST,Fantum 11 Sep 07 - 08:25 AM
The Barden of England 11 Sep 07 - 08:38 AM
Mick Tems 11 Sep 07 - 10:55 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: GUEST,Jacqued
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 03:45 PM

Came across a cracking song t'other day - but a couple of lines foxed me!   "Right Side of The Footplate" by Nebula, a very evocative railway song - can anyone help me with the second line of the second verse and the first two lines of verse three?   Many thanks,

Jacqued


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: jonm
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 03:50 PM

If this is the Huw & Tony Williams song, then from the Fairport book, the lines you want are:

My father he was a driver, travelling pit to port

and

Tomorrow it's off up to Banbury, a lodging term for me
Where I can lay my head on a pillow where I can sleep

OK?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: GUEST,Jacqued
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 03:55 PM

Many thanks, jonm.   Now for my apology! I should have asked for the second part of the first line of verse two! Help a dummy again?

Jacqued


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: pixieofdoom
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 06:04 PM

It's on the Fairport Convention album, Jewel in the Crown.

Wassail! Chris


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 07:23 PM

Originally written for a BBC Radio 4 documentary. On the Great Western Railway, the driver sat on the right hand side of the cab.

My grand-dad worked at the station, a bigwig so I've heard talk
My father he was a driver, travelling pit to port

Tomorrow it's off up to Banbury, a lodging turn for me
Where I lay my head on a pillow in a room where I can sleep

'Up' is in the direction of London.

Lodging Turn; A turn of duty where the train crew booked off duty at a distant location, and after a period of rest booked on again for the return trip. Lodging accommodation was provided either in private houses (often those of other railwaymen or their widows) or at railway lodging houses (often called "barracks").
(from LNWRS Glossary)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: GUEST,Jacqued
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 08:10 AM

Thanks pixieofdoom and GUEST,henryp. To complete my education, what is (or was) a bite (bight)?   What I would call a porthole?

Jacqued


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: Shuffer
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 09:08 AM

If you look at a steam engine meny of them had a semi-circular cutout in the cab through which the driver or fireman could lean to see ahead. I believe this was the bite.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: GUEST,Jacqued
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 04:59 PM

Thanks Shuffer - now you mention it it does seem to make sense - so I guess it is "bite"!

Jacqued


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: breezy
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 05:13 PM

The title is 'Travelling By Steam'

So please confirm the 1st line of the chorus chaps

Is it

stand on the right, as i heard the word 'bite' 'byte'

any help would be apreciated

ta

also he wrote it in response to a commission as he was asked if he had any railway songs, he said 'yes' then went ahead and researched and wrote it!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 07:20 AM

Fairport called it Travelling by Steam.
Huw Williams called it Rightside of the Footplate.

Can't help with bite/bight I'm afraid.

Huw was recently heard on BBC Radio 4, interviewing Pete Seeger and Roger McGuinn about the Bells of Rhymney.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: GUEST,Fantum
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 08:25 AM

Bight,

Its a curve
More generally used in geography meaning a bay or an arc

I always took the line to mean that the driver looked out of the window of the loco on the inside of the arc (bight) to get a view of whats in front.
If he looks out of the other side he couldnt see the track ahead

I sometimes wonder if I lead a sad life remembering this stuff

Fantum


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: The Barden of England
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 08:38 AM

I believe that a 'Bight' is a passing place, so that 'Stand in the bight, look for the green light' makes sense if you're waiting for an express to pass for instance, and once it has passed you're waiting for the green light to proceed.
John Barden


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: Mick Tems
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 10:55 AM

Marvellous song! Huw the writer is a champion clog dancer nowadays, and he's a member of that fabulous foursome Crasdant.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: breezy
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 01:40 PM

Ta Bard

They couldnt help at Didcot !


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Side of The Footplate
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 10:37 PM

Jacqued: Since you seem to have all the lyrics now, please post them here!

Help us build the world's largest database of folk song lyrics!


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