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Subject: Tech: Opera Madness From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 06 Sep 07 - 10:23 PM I use Win98SE - OK - I am working on moving Linux. Now Firefox under Linux will happily accept more than one Yahoo Id - others have occasional use of my PC. Now Firefox works OK on Linux, but it seems to need .NET on Windows 98 - so won't run on Win98SE. Also seems to want 'GTK2'. i don't want to keep adding 'extra packs' - as Win98SE is slow enough... MSIE (Win98 compatible version!) just tends to lock up regularly - tried all the 'reinstall/update' tricks - several times. So trying Opera9. But Opera9 ..... madness - you log out of the Yahoo user - and try to log in as another yahoo user and Boom! lots of screen goings on, and before you realise it, you are BACK IN as the original user... without login in again... OK - 1) is it 'fixable'? Some 'cookie' somewhere - looked at enabling all the cookie stuff... 2) Another recommendation for a low weight Win98SE compatible browser? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: Sorcha Date: 06 Sep 07 - 10:39 PM I'm the LAST person to ask. I think Bill D uses Opera. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 07 Sep 07 - 01:45 AM OooooK! One error screen that flashed by was from Opera - it mumbled something about needing to be installed in 'multiple users mode'... but my PC only ever has been in 'single user mode' - why would Yahoo stuff on a web site interfere with my PC? Nothing found in the Opera Windows help ... Thought that would only need to be done for Linux, or XP/Vista - not Win98SE... Saw no request about that possibility when installing... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 07 Sep 07 - 09:33 AM Well I played with 'the Wand' - found a few possible tnings which I deleted - still no joy... :-( |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: GUEST,Keinstein Date: 07 Sep 07 - 10:00 AM Firefox 2.0.0.6 works on W98 just fine, in fact I'm posting this using exactly that combination. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: Bill D Date: 07 Sep 07 - 10:47 AM I do use Opera 9 a lot...but moved to WinXP over 2 years ago, so have no idea how Opera9 works under it. I have had no problems with Opera9, and just began to play with Opera9.5 Alpha. I also do very little with Yahoo, as it has always felt 'pushy' about its rules.....but I suspect the issues may be in Yahoo: perhaps not wanting Opera to save multiple cookies for same login..but that's a wild guess. It IS possible that Firefox might be easier. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: mack/misophist Date: 07 Sep 07 - 11:04 AM I prefer Opera over Firefox but haven't allowed the Win 98 machine on the net for a couple of years now. So Bill D,s idea sounds best to me. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: Bill D Date: 07 Sep 07 - 12:31 PM (you 'could' try something like Opera 7 or 8 on Win98....they are available at oldversion.com |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 07 Sep 07 - 09:51 PM Thanks for what you guys have given so far - will try oldversion.com, but it's a bit of a humungous cavern... Still looking for an alternate browser. Firefox - wants stuff not on my PC as above... amybe an old version. Downloading is a nightmare at moment - my copper pair line seems to have hassles - intead of conencting at 56K at time it won't talk above 12000 !!! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 08 Sep 07 - 08:25 AM Ok Firefox 1.5 was found at oldversion... ok - but spell checker not compatible - now setting up V2. Seems to install ok. Mind not what it used to be - it was pidgin that wanted all the .NET stuff for win... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Firefox Madness From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 08 Sep 07 - 12:04 PM OK - FF2 - not tried the 'multiple identites' game yet - but the stupid bloody thing now will only save mudcat pages (and lots of others) as "thread.cfm.htm" ... Bloody Hell! This page is "http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=104575&messages=10" So it's obviously that stupid "?" partly screwing it up..., but it's also refusing to take the page name from the title ... unlike any other browser, even version FF1.5 ... BTW, I have 'the spell checker' but it won't 'activate' - it will show me the red underlines, but there is no way I can find to actually make it work on the mudcat pages. I seem to be able to spellcheck other pages at other sites... I've got the 'spellcheck this field' set on the right mouse click... the colour of this field does seem to change at times. Agghhhh! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: Bill D Date: 08 Sep 07 - 12:28 PM I'll confess I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do with "saving Mudcat pages" FF gives me 4 choices when I click on 'file' -> 'save page as' "Web page-complete" "Web page-HTML only" "text files" "All files" and the "threads.cfm.htm." is only a suggested name...you could name it anything you wish. the spellchecker works automatically when you type....are you trying to spellcheck already posted stuff, also? And if so, why? and what are you referring to as "this field" which changes color? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: Bill D Date: 08 Sep 07 - 12:52 PM (In Opera, one could highlight a word and choose to look it up in an online dictionary....but I don't know anyway to spellcheck posted text other than copying it into a word processor.) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: Bill D Date: 08 Sep 07 - 12:57 PM Oh...and I DO sympathize with slow downloads! If you have old, copper connections and can't get good connections, life is hard in these days of new stuff needing broadband. And, yeah...WinXP, when you are able...or even Linux...is an improvement over 98. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Firefox Madness From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 08 Sep 07 - 08:57 PM "and the "threads.cfm.htm." is only a suggested name" Yes but it's a PITA... IE didn't do that, Opera didn't do that, FF1.5 didn't do that... on Linux or here on 1.5 I 'upgraded from' - and that pissed me off too - it didn't download the exe - it internally 'overlaid itself' so I can't reinstall without downloading again - I used to scream at the screen for Microcrap doing that... "the spellchecker works automatically when you type....are you trying to spellcheck already posted stuff" It red underlines words - I added the Aussie dictionary - but I cannot physically change them except by typing the new ones over the top!!! Unless it is something to do with the Yahoo Answers pages having code that mudcat does not... "what are you referring to as "this field" which changes color?" The text entry field where I type when the mudcat page is displayed. The whole field is normally one shade of white. When I start typing text, the whole field changes to another subtly different shade of white. When I stop that, it changes back. When I start to edit a paragraph, that paragraph changes. When I click outside that paragraph, it changes back. When the mouse is over the field, it is one shade, when outside that, another. But no buttons anywhere to actually substitute words. I have to see the red underlined words and manually change, like "undlerlined". I also can't make it 'learn' either (MMD for instance). I also have to see things like 'top' instead of 'to' and manually do each one (that's normal). Also it won't - even when it does work - do a 'change all' - I frequently, due to MMD, type 'teh' instead of 'the', it's a PITA to have to catch each one - due to MMD, sometimes I click the wrong thing, and that stuffs it up... Not interested in 'already posted text'. Oh - & the 'Speed Dial' in FF2 only works on the first tab... just doesn't appear on subsequent new tabs. "WinXp" No chance financially - linux - working on that - used to work as a tech support loonie... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 09 Sep 07 - 12:50 AM Ok - I've untangled Speed Dial... (options located!) The save page as hassle only has just started since I installed FF2, and only here on the Cat... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Opera Madness From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 09 Sep 07 - 12:57 AM Ok - FF@ spell check - right clicking on the wrong word, one word at a time, gives a limited menu of suggested words, but often the word I want is not there, so you still have to do it the hard way, each word at a time. At least I can do the 'teh' problem, but only one word at a time... RTFM? I don't need no stinkin' manual! :-P |
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