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Subject: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: JedMarum Date: 29 Jun 07 - 12:33 PM I'm convinced that to get a usable sound for performance from my banola I have to use a mic. The instrument has a small, delicate sound and the pick-ups I've tried don't do it justice. I may end up blending (that is use a transducer style pick-up plus the mic) - but I believe a good condenser mic mounted near the neck and pointing toward the sound hole will give me the sound qualities I'm looking for. Are you using such a product? If so, what are the pros and cons? What product are you using? I'm considering one of these by Audio Technica - do you know anything about this product? I presume I can rig up a good safe way to permanently mount the mic or more likely a clip for the mic to the banjola. Any thoughts? |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: Nick Date: 29 Jun 07 - 12:41 PM You could try asking Dougie Maclean via his web site as he uses something similar and gets a good sound - some discussion on it here. |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: Jim Lad Date: 29 Jun 07 - 01:51 PM There was an excellent thread here on Mudcat about one or two months ago. Same subject. Someone will surely drop in with the name of the instrument mic that was recommended then. It's around the same price. It did however, involve drilling a new hole or reaming out the existing hole at the base of your instrument. I prefer using a condenser mic on its own stand. That way, one does all. The major drawback with instrument mounted mics is feedback and with transducers, quality. I wouldn't go with any type of temporary solution such as clip on lapel mics. Just too many variables there. I do like the look of your instrument. Would be worth learning 5 string banjo for and is an excellent price. I'll bookmark this thread. Regards. Jim |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: treewind Date: 29 Jun 07 - 02:34 PM Microvox do a similar mic (in fact a whole range of them) that attaches to a velcro pad on the instrument. Worth considering, and in performance similar to the AKG. Anahata |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: Big Al Whittle Date: 29 Jun 07 - 02:55 PM The up maerket Yamaha guitars have such a pick up. the CPX 8 and the CPX 15cm - you can mix swan neck mic and piezo under bridge transducer. The very new Yamahas have three blendable sources CPX 9, which they have called the ART system. I used the CPX 8 and 15cm for years. the CPX 15 system is made by LR Baggs. i would say they are great if you do your own PA. If you are turning up places and plugging into what the local psychotic PA man has - just get a contact mike system . Shadow do some good ones. K and K do do a very reasonable three transducer in one system called the pure western. But there is no pre-amp involved. best wishes jed - hope you make it to England soon - we need men like you in the modern folk revival. al |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: GUEST,Jim Date: 29 Jun 07 - 03:53 PM I have a piece of velcro in the lip of my soundhole. I use a lavalier mic I bought at Radio Shack for about $30 Cdn. I wrap it in stick on velcro and stick it in the guitar when I need it. It is prone to feedback at high volumes, but it gives a much more natural sound than the Fishman under-saddle pick-up that I have in the same guitar. |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: Jim Lad Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:00 PM Never even noticed that it was you, Jed. I doubt that I'll ever convince you to switch over to mics eh? |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: Mooh Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:33 PM For a few years there were Miniflex mics mounted in a couple of my guitars. They had an integral preamp (sans controls) and the whole thing mounted on the endpin inside the guitar without any other holes, attachments, or modifications. At lower volumes they worked well other than some severe EQ required at the top end. At higher volumes the EQ seemed to even out but then feedback became a problem. The only reason I ditched them was the complete and utter pain in the backside (arm and wrist too) it was to get in the guitar to change the battery. I think I still have one MiniFlex around and I never thought about putting it in my open back banjo...thanks for the idea! Fwiw, I have either Schatten Design or K&K contact pickups in most of my acoustics (don't like under saddle units...quack, quack), and will use a decent condensor mic whenever possible. The price on the AudioTechnica looks reasonable. Hope you like the Gold Tone, I adore my Gold Tone Irish Tenor banjo. Good luck. Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: open mike Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:44 PM search the prevoius thread and you will find my answer to this question --mini-flex is now distributed by GHS strings. this is a microphone not just a pick up, so can produce feedback if you are standing in line with, or in front of the speakers. |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: EBarnacle Date: 29 Jun 07 - 09:29 PM I've been using Radio Shack lavaliers for about 20 years now, one on each side of the concertina, velcroed on to the pinky rests. Sound is pretty good and, as long as you keep it in fresh batteries. |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: Leadfingers Date: 29 Jun 07 - 10:06 PM Jed - I also have a banjola - GREAT fun !! I have a cheap Piezo on it that workss , but I HAVE used Microvox in the past on other instruments , and know that they are VERY Good !! |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: GUEST,Ray Date: 30 Jun 07 - 04:33 AM Once you've decided on a mic you'll have to find some way to attach it. There was a chap selling such devices at the Acoustic Avalon show in Leicester last year - not cheap but seemed to be well made - can't tell you who he was but I bet Sheehans could. Ray |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: Darowyn Date: 30 Jun 07 - 04:37 AM If you are looking for the ultimate quality, and have lots of money, check DPA microphones. They produce tiny, instrument-mounted mics which sound unbelievably good. Have a look here. DPA Cheers Dave |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: mandotim Date: 30 Jun 07 - 05:22 AM I use a GHS miniflex on my mandocello, and it works well in all but the most feedback prone situations (i.e. high volume and lots of stage monitors). Another option might be the Fishman Rare Earth blender system. This comprises a soundhole-mounted humbucker magnetic pickup (not sure how this would work with 5 strings though) plus a condenser mike on a short gooseneck that sits inside the air chamber. You can blend between the two, even taking the humbucker out completely in low-volume settings. For a condenser mike, Oktava do some nice small diaphragm kit, but make sure you get the Russian ones, not the Chinese copies. My personal choice for an instrument mike is the ubiquitous AKG C-1000 condenser. Works on 9v battery or phantom power, has a swappable capsule screen to make the pattern hypercardioid if you want it, and is very robust, as condensers go. Good luck! Tim |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: GUEST,doc.tom Date: 30 Jun 07 - 05:24 AM Tried microvox, tried audio technics, and a lot of cheapos - swear by AKG C411, for guitar, mandola, piano and even banjo! Unfortunately, they've just stopped doing a 48v phantom version and now only do the 9v phantom version. (I never had any trouble with the 48v phamtom versions and happily use 3 of them, but some people commented on an inherent low fq rumble). Tom Brown |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: GUEST,mattk Date: 02 Jul 07 - 05:18 PM www.exploraudio.com do a really good clamp |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: GUEST,Frank Lee Date: 02 Jul 07 - 07:13 PM I currently use an Audio Technica saxophone mic. on my melodeons and my banjo. Its cost probably equals all the previous tie-clip (and variants) mics I've owned put together, but it works, and very well at that. In my experience cheap mics are a false economy. I've made a mounting bracket for the melodeon, but the built-in clip on the mic just fits on the perchpole in the banjo head. Banjos are notoriously difficult to amplify without feedback, but this solves the problem more effectively than anything short of a VERY expensive free-standing mic. |
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Subject: RE: Anyone Using an Instrument Mounted Mic From: GUEST,Ray Date: 03 Jul 07 - 12:39 PM Exploraudio - looks like the one I saw in Lecester |
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