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Subject: BS: anglited & deficra From: skipy Date: 04 Jun 07 - 07:29 AM So I forgot my google password & had to send an "I've forgotton my password" email, to whit I had to fill in the random letters on the screen. The frist time it said anglited & the second time it said deficra. So google is making up words now! So what do they mean? Should we be using them! Skipy |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: JohnInKansas Date: 04 Jun 07 - 07:40 AM Just don't say them out loud where your mother can hear you. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: skipy Date: 04 Jun 07 - 07:46 AM Thanks for the tip, John. Skipy |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: Mr Happy Date: 04 Jun 07 - 09:32 AM & 'frist'?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: skipy Date: 04 Jun 07 - 09:35 AM Frist! another word google made up! Skipy |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: skipy Date: 04 Jun 07 - 09:35 AM Frist \Frist\ (fr[i^]st), v. t. [OE. fristen, firsten, to lend, give respite, postpone, AS. firstan to give respite to; akin to first time, G. frist, Icel. frest delay.] To sell upon credit, as goods. [R.] --Crabb. |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: Liz the Squeak Date: 04 Jun 07 - 12:37 PM I miss our old random password generator. I find it much harder to remember my own phrase or saying... or if I answered 'Peter' to the 'first pet' question, totally forgetting that my first pet was in fact, Roger the goldfish. The random password generator gave you a choice of 3 letter groupings, all of which had a vowel or Y in the middle. My first ever password when I joined the Civil Service 7 years ago was nobyerduk. Can't remember the one that's going to log me in tomorrow.... but 7 years ago, that one I remember! LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: JohnInKansas Date: 04 Jun 07 - 06:05 PM Those random letter groups that you have to read and type in are intended to prevent automated search bots from being able to pretend to be you. Since they're "pictures of letters" there are no letters contained in the code that's transmitted, and you must use your "character recognition processor" (i.e. look at them) to repeat the characters back. Usually they're presented as barely visible "dot characters" on a background of other dots, to further confuse any "OCR" (Optical Character Recognition) programs that might be used. Some OCR programs are quite good at reading text out of pictures, although I haven't heard of hackers coupling them into their bots (yet). If you must write down your passwords and reminder questions/answers etc, it's usually recommended that you print them on paper and delete the file from your computer, since the bots can search your whole machine for any "machine readable" files that may be there, and will almost certainly be able to recognize "things that might be passwords." For an intermediate level of security, if you feel you must have them on your machine, you can paste them into your photoeditor and save them as "pictures" rather than as text. This will at least slow down the bots. Unfortunately, as it means you have to open an image editing program to read them, and can't do a text search to find the one you want, it makes retrieval a bit clumsy. You could perhaps paste the pictures into a text document, with the names of the places the passwords work with in text (searchable) but with the passwords themselves as pictures that can't be easily "machine read." Most web sites that require a password now require at least 4 characters, and won't accept anything shorter. Current recommendations from the security folk is that a password should be at least 6 characters (at least 8 preferred) and should contain at least one "number" and both upper and lower case letters. Where the system permits it, at least one "other character" (#!@? etc) should be included for "stronger protection." ("@n1m@l" would theoretically be better than "animal") A fairly recent survey: 10 Most Common Passwords "If you recognize yours, you may as well hand over your wallet or purse to the first person you see on the street." 1.) password 2.) 123456 3.) qwerty 4.) abc123 5.) letmein 6.) monkey 7.) myspace1 8.) password1 9.) link182 10.) (your first name) Source: InTechnology.com, 2007 Office programs in Windows 2000 and later allow passwords up to 126 characters long, and you can include spaces, so you could protect a document on your own machine with a password like "Secrets of the mystic shrine of the Golden Globes" (or S3cr3ts 0f the myst1c shr1ne 0f the3 G0ld3n Gl0b3s") if you wish. Note that any document corruption (not too common) or corruption of the password master file (encrypted and somewhat fragile) renders any protected document absolutely unrecoverable, so this form of "protection" should not be used too casually. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: Liz the Squeak Date: 05 Jun 07 - 01:15 AM Phew, I'm safe... none of my passwords appear on that list... leastways, I don't recognise any... Who am I again? LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: JohnInKansas Date: 05 Jun 07 - 04:11 AM But I've heard a rumor that one of our members uses "S3cr3ts 0f the myst1c shr1ne 0f th3 G0ld3n Gl0b3s" for everything. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: DMcG Date: 05 Jun 07 - 04:38 AM Ok, I'll bite. why 'link182'? All the others are obvious enough but what's that about? |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: JohnInKansas Date: 05 Jun 07 - 05:02 AM No idea. It probably has something to do with one of those things that was mentioned in the class I missed the day I trudged through the snow to rescue the starving orphans (and their puppy). Maybe Google knows, but it's low on my list of things to look up. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 05 Jun 07 - 11:35 PM "link182" "link 182" & "blink 182" turn up massively on google. Personally I think the following is interesting Recliner chair - Patent 5110179 http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5110179.html This may be done in any suitable manner by rotating the locking link 182 ... In the specific embodiment shown, a cable 190 is connected to link 182 at 192 ... http://www.delafont.com/music_acts/blink-182.htm Buy this album: "blink-182" (explicit) (2003) (WO/2001/065576) BLOCKING APPARATUS FOR CIRCUIT BREAKER CONTACT http://www.wipo.org/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2001065576 ...The apparatus includes a link (182) extending from the circuit breaker and connected Inferring the identity of a preferred server from configuration http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6044399-description.html ...... 130 are connected by link 181, local area networks 110 and 140 are connected by link 182, and local area networks 110 and 150 are connected by link 183. ... Your Source For Comedy On Long Island And Internet Home Of Jumpin http://www.joshingyou.com/link.html ...Mmmmm...Sausage Sausage Link. Fancy, Fancy Cuff Links. Werner Klemperer Col. Wilhelm K-link. B-Link 182 B-link 182. Like Lego's For Cavemen. Linc-oln Logs ... [PDF] Southwark - Table 1 to 5.xls http://www.southwark.gov.uk/Uploads/FILE_26007.pdf File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML Link 182 - Dunton Road Toucan Crossing ... Link 182 - Roadmarking Improvements (entire length of ... Link 182 - Stubbs Drive / South Bermondsey Station ... Everyones Favotire Bands? – Last.fmMine are link-182 and Leftover Crack. Right now im also really into the smoking popes and jawbreaker. [quote][b][user]Loserkidwk[/user][/b] said: Hey, ... www.last.fm/group/Punx/forum/24544/_/76072 (Thought it was something to do with a band...) What is a good adventure game to download? - Abandonware ForumsLink 182. Peon. Date d'inscription: August 2001. Messages: 16 ... Link 182 est déconnecté, Aller en haut de la discussion ... www.abandonware-forums.org/showthread.php?t=8834 (Also had some vague memory of a game too...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: JohnInKansas Date: 06 Jun 07 - 05:53 AM There are numerous hits in Google, but mostly things unlikely to have wide enough meaning to people creating personal passwords to explain why the password would be common. The only thing I hit on that might have a connection is (maybe) the MANET working subgroup of IEEE. Google "finds it" in a search for "link182" but there's no visible indication of why or where in the activities of the group "link 182" may appear. Publications on Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs) is the link given by Google, and from there a link goes to Mobile Ad-hoc Networks (manet). [If you attempt to look at any of the "text" files at the second link, note that they are illegible as text (in Notepad) but load in Word with good formatting, loaded as Western European Windows encoding.] To achieve widespread usage as a password in a "cult" such as a group of computer wonks, there has to be a "joke factor," so a common error message or a "method of generating indiscriminate nonsense" would be expected. There are too many documents listed for a simple lookup of how link182 relates to the workgroup task. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 06 Jun 07 - 07:00 AM Link 182 seems to be a fairly common 'user handle' in blogs etc too - the association I had with games, on further reflection, seems to be with an identitty associated with gaming, rather than a game itself. I wonder where the "blink-182" band got its name from... |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: Chip2447 Date: 06 Jun 07 - 11:17 PM hmmm, just a thought here, but isn't Link the main characther in the ocarina of time video game? Now this thread has a musical twist to it... Chip2447 (who obviously has nothing better to do) |
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Subject: RE: BS: anglited & deficra From: Bob Bolton Date: 07 Jun 07 - 12:09 AM G'day, ... I can see the logic to "link182" - paricularly as one often typed in public spaces, such as internet cafés ... What does that mean about me? Regard(les)s, Bob |
