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Dickey 03 May 07 - 09:59 PM
Liz the Squeak 03 May 07 - 10:01 PM
Rapparee 03 May 07 - 10:04 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 03 May 07 - 10:43 PM
Janie 03 May 07 - 10:51 PM
AWG 04 May 07 - 09:02 AM
Donuel 04 May 07 - 10:01 AM
Dickey 05 May 07 - 09:54 AM
GUEST,Peter Woodruff 05 May 07 - 10:10 AM
Dickey 05 May 07 - 12:33 PM
Janie 05 May 07 - 02:11 PM
Dickey 05 May 07 - 04:07 PM
Dickey 06 May 07 - 10:17 AM
Sorcha 06 May 07 - 10:21 AM
Donuel 06 May 07 - 11:29 AM
Bee 06 May 07 - 12:23 PM
Janie 06 May 07 - 10:51 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 06 May 07 - 11:16 PM
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Dickey 07 May 07 - 12:46 AM
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Subject: BS: First daylily bloom
From: Dickey
Date: 03 May 07 - 09:59 PM

Today I had my first Stella D'oro daylily bloom of the season.

I like flowers that bloom all summer and these are my favorite. I had some blooming in December. They grow low and fill the beds so less and less mulch is required every year.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 03 May 07 - 10:01 PM

They are very pretty, but I like my arum lily bloom, that's grown to 4ft tall and the size of a teaplate this year. I'll try and get the picture sorted tomorrow...

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 May 07 - 10:04 PM

And they're edible.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 03 May 07 - 10:43 PM

And here I thought it was spring because I saw my first dandelion flower.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Janie
Date: 03 May 07 - 10:51 PM

Do they usually bloom this early for you, Dickey, are they a bit ahead of themselves with such a warm winter?

Janie


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: AWG
Date: 04 May 07 - 09:02 AM

I have a few lillies in the front garden, however they are far from blooming. Only about 2 inches out of the soil. Maybe weather isn't warm enough here (southern Ontario).


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 07 - 10:01 AM

Without any bees and such variable weather here my plum tree has exactly
one immature plum
my pear tree has zero pears
the normally prolific black cherry tree has virtually no fruit
the apple tree shows a dozen apples
the crab apple tree about the same
no hazelnuts
only half the blueberries this year
The spring peeper frogs came out 2 weeks early due to 80 degree temperatures followed by a freeze that silenced them for good.
Last year the soil temerature in the backyard reached 140 F.
Resodding is not taking well.
The Azaleas look good.

It will be a fruitless summer in my yard this year.

I think we are in deeper shit that we collectively know.

The south east US is so dry that the biggest fires in history have claimed much of Georgia and Florida is already ablaze.

In Europe the last German glacier is rapidly melting and is being covered with white tarps to try to extend its life a year or two.
All of Europe faces deadly droughts and dry rivers without any icepack within the next 10 years.

Mt Kilimangaro has lost its snow cap.

And the Iraq war is showing progress.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Dickey
Date: 05 May 07 - 09:54 AM

Janie:

I don't think the bloom is early this year but we did have a mild winter up until late in January which allowed the Stella D'oros to bloom until mid December.

Last year we had a cool wet long spring and them a hot dry summer. It looks the same for this year. For the last 10 years or so we have been having hot dry summers which makes it hard for me to plant trees.

I am a tree, shrub and ground cover man more than a flower man. I do not care for flowers that bloom for 2 weeks and then are bare for 50 weeks. That's why I prefer thong like petunias and daylilies. The SD's are smaller but more prolific and bloom all season.

I like groundcovers because I get tired of mulching year after year. Where ever the and the groundcovers spread, it does not need mulching anymore. I have aquired an area with steep banks on either side of a drainage ditch to mantain. I just ordered 100 english ivy plants to go along the ditch to cover the banks.

I am wondering if the ivy will grow uphill faster than downhill. Should I plant them near the bottom or the top of the bank?


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff
Date: 05 May 07 - 10:10 AM

Nice bunch of Stella D'oros Dickey! You must be in Zone 7. The deer cleaned off my daylillies clear to the ground but the same thing happened last year and the day lillies came back with a vengence.

Peter


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Dickey
Date: 05 May 07 - 12:33 PM

The photo is not of my SD's but a photo I googled in case somone was wondering what they look like.

I am in in zone 7 in suburbia and deer are not a problem but rabbits, moles and voles are.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Janie
Date: 05 May 07 - 02:11 PM

The Stellas are about the earliest of the daylilies. All of my day lilies are mid to late season and won't bloom for another 4 to 8 weeks.

Annuals that bloom all season are nice. I plant bunches of them in pots to move around the garden between bloom seasons so that there is always some color, and have a number of self-sowing annuals and bi-annals. The way they move around the garden, popping up here this year, over there the next, is always fun. But I love the variety, the drama, and the marking of the seasons that perennials provide. I've got a lot of square footage in gardens and can't afford to keep them mulched, so I plant extremey densely to keep a lot of weeds crowded out (or hidden, anyway.)

Don't know about the ivy. Let us know what you find out.

Janie


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Dickey
Date: 05 May 07 - 04:07 PM

My favorite groundcover is Vinca Minor AKA Mrytle AKA Periwinkle. It likes shade though so I tried Vinca Major. It is larger and more aggressive in sunlight but it still prefers shade just like the Euonimous I tried.

I am sure the Ivy will do better in full sun but it climbs so much I am going to keep it away from trees and buildings.

Juniper type groundcovers do not keep the weeds out completely and they grow too slow.

I just ordered a variety of Cranesbill Geraniums to try out as a groundcover.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Dickey
Date: 06 May 07 - 10:17 AM

I found our first rose bloom of the season yesterday, a coral pink color. I don't know the variety, only that it was from Jackson and Perkins. It is a tall sucker, over 6 feet high with no support.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Sorcha
Date: 06 May 07 - 10:21 AM

I suppose I might have something blooming eventually, if the dogs would stop noshing on all of the shoots.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Donuel
Date: 06 May 07 - 11:29 AM

I have that same tall coral rose bush - it does well in 80% shade which surpirsed me


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Bee
Date: 06 May 07 - 12:23 PM

Depressing thread: my daylilies are just poking shoots out of the cold ground, my irises had their first shoots frozen off, and even a lot of my Pulmonaria seems to have tanked over the winter. It'll be the 20th of May before we see leaves on the trees.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Janie
Date: 06 May 07 - 10:51 PM

Yes, Bee, but think of how you can gloat when I am sweltering through two months of un-air conditioned 95 degree weather in July and August, with nothing but dead or disease riddled, drought-stricken perennials in the yard:O)

Janie


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 06 May 07 - 11:16 PM

Daylilys 6", martagon lilies 8", cutleaf peonies 8" Looks like spring, but first frost-free day average is June 1. A good snow still likely. Will put out a little soluble fertilizer and water tomorrow. A dry winter, only 3-4 days of really cold weather. Spruce and conifers in the area badly stressed after several years of low snowfall in the foothills. Global warming is having an effect.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Janie
Date: 06 May 07 - 11:37 PM

Wow. June 1. When is your average first frost date?

Janie


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Dickey
Date: 07 May 07 - 12:46 AM

Our coral rose bush does not get much sun either yet it was the first to bloom. It has a triple measure of thorns of all sizes.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Bee
Date: 07 May 07 - 07:47 AM

Thanks, Janie - I shall take up your invite to gloat - but not until it warms up here! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: open mike
Date: 07 May 07 - 07:57 PM

be careful about ground covers
someone around here thought vinca
was great about 20 years ago.
now it is choking everything
and i need to spend endless
amounts of time and perhaps \money too
to try to eradicate it or at least
corral it.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Dickey
Date: 07 May 07 - 10:46 PM

They say the same thing about Zoysia grass. Some hate it some love it. Bluegrass is classifed as an invasive species.

I had a Wysteria vine that kept "reaching" for the trees. I kept cutting it back but it got tougher, more robust and faster growing. Finally I got tired of trying to contain it. It took 3 years to kill it. The worst pest I ever had was Trumpet vine. I never was able to eradicate it before I had to move.

The worst of all is Kudzu. It grows in Maryland and I saw it climb a CD warning tower and choking the siren.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 08 May 07 - 07:51 AM

Just give those plants to me!! I can kill aspidistras (known as the 'Cast Iron Plant' because it withstood smoke laden atmospheres and drought) and wisterias... I've even managed to kill spider plants - and EVERYONE knows they're indestructable!

Vincas (periwinkle) are controllable if you clip off the long stalky shoots every summer... can be done in minutes daily or about 30 minutes every week. Don't let the rhizomes root too deeply before you pull them up.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Tinker
Date: 08 May 07 - 07:39 PM

No buds on the Stella doros, but I have one patch of iris in full bud. And the peonies are budded, but it's early they have a long way to go. It'll be closer to June before I see the first blossom. The major blossom right now are the wood hyacynths and the columbine. Weeds are my current focus. This is major season for trying to control the mudwort. UGH! someone let it run rammpant for years and now it seems like a lost cause. But as long as it stays cool I will pull and pull and uproot and uproot.
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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Bobert
Date: 09 May 07 - 07:40 AM

Don't have much to add to this thread but am certainly paying attention as sun gardening is something that I am slowly having to learn... Yeah, when the P-Vine and I moved (with half of our old shade garden) from our shady property in the Wes Ginny mountains to our new farm with half shad and half sun the reality that we don't really know that much about sun gardening set in big time...

Day lillies, I am learning, may play a large part of solving how to fill up the beds I have created... Right now we are purdy much just using stuff that does were in sun or semi-shade...

I'm not fond of yellow near the house but I think it would do well with our native azealeas that bloom in yellows, oranges... Janie knows these 'cause they are from Carolina mouintains... What other yellows/oranges wildflowers are there that bloom early... We're in zone 6B so keep that inh mind...

Also what are some good day lillies that with pink to red blooms that don't grow too tall (18" in fine)???

Also, what daylillies are/aren't invasive??? We had those tiger-lillies back in Wes Ginny and they were like weeds... Almost as bad as bamboo...

Also, are there any lavenders that could possibly be planted with real lavender???

As you can see, this ol' shade gardener needs help...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Dickey
Date: 09 May 07 - 08:57 AM

Bobert: low growing daylilies


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Donuel
Date: 09 May 07 - 04:52 PM

Great Garden tip


sprinkle a carton of Epson Salts over a minimum 12 by 12 ft area.

If you have enough water and fertilizer the potassium will double the height of your plants.

If other growing factors are poor you will just get really tall spindely plants.

We got 5 foot tall opium poppies this way.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Donuel
Date: 09 May 07 - 04:54 PM

yahoo my banana trees poked up 6 inches above the ground today.
They all made it through a sub zero winter without mulch.

Now its a race for them to reach 20 feet high before the frost.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Donuel
Date: 09 May 07 - 04:59 PM

Dickey, please send me one of each

the Exotic one and the Malaysian one are super.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Bobert
Date: 09 May 07 - 07:45 PM

Whew!!!!

Thanks, Dickey.... What a great site...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 May 07 - 10:30 PM

Wow. Those are all day lilies?? I had no idea. The only ones I'm familiar with are canary-yellow ones that grow up to about 3 feet tall (Keep in mind that this is southeast Alaska, where dandelions and tulips reach knee-high to an adult human).

In another thread Rapaire (?) talked about sauteing day lilies. I'm curious about that and would like to try it.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Dickey
Date: 09 May 07 - 11:59 PM

There are 38,000+- registered cultivars of daylilies.

http://www.horticulture.wisc.edu/allencentennialgardens/daylily_garden.htm

I am not an avid gardener, just a lazy one. I like flowers that you don't have to plant every year, bloom from spring to fall, don't need watering or weeding and spread out choking the weeds to cut down on mulching. That's why I like the Stella D'oros

On the deck we plant some annuals in planters. Last year we did petunias. They love the sun, bloom all season and are covered with blooms. Our favorite was the new miniature varieties like manybells, The blooms hang down over the sides of the planters 6" to a foot. Being in pots, they did need watering though.

A few pots did not get enough water and all the petunias died. They reseeded themselves in a few weeks and and bloomed again.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Jun 08 - 10:38 AM

I'm working on a bed for daylilies this year, hoping for many happy flower returns in the future. This is a great thread!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jun 08 - 11:39 AM

Dickey, my first daylilly blooms are the same as yours.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Jun 08 - 11:43 AM

The daylillies in Juneau aren't blooming yet. For casual gardening they are one of my favorite flowers, although I am familiar only with the canary yellow ones. I love their scent- kind of a cross between vanilla and lemon.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: MMario
Date: 10 Jun 08 - 11:57 AM

Interesting that your commmon daylily is canary yellow - around here the "common" daylily is orange. None of mine are blooming yet - but there are buds on the stella d'oro and on Esperanza (which we bought because of the name - we live on Esperanza rd - but love because it is a huge, freely blooming beautiful GOLDEN yellow)


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Amos
Date: 10 Jun 08 - 12:02 PM

Ours are bustin' out all over with bright yellow trumpets.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: Bee
Date: 10 Jun 08 - 01:31 PM

Daylilies aren't ready yet, but I'm finding 'surprise' flowers in my garden this year: A surprise fuschia tulip where I never planted any, some surprise phlox that must have self seeded from the other side of the yard, a surprise smooth-leaved poppy from who knows where, and a mysterious lily is leafing up in the doorstep-side bed that I definitely did not plant.


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Subject: RE: BS: First daylilly bloom
From: RangerSteve
Date: 10 Jun 08 - 03:22 PM

Strange, I had a tulip bloom this year where I hadn't planted one. Not even close to where I had planted any. Maybe it's not a tulip, maybe it's some kind of alien species disguised as tulips.
Anyway, the day lilies are gettin close to blooming, and some other types as well, just in time to replace the irises and columbines.


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