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BS: Price of rhubarb UK

Mo the caller 30 Apr 07 - 11:38 AM
Sooz 30 Apr 07 - 12:53 PM
Jean(eanjay) 30 Apr 07 - 12:57 PM
Schantieman 30 Apr 07 - 01:43 PM
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Jean(eanjay) 30 Apr 07 - 01:49 PM
ced2 30 Apr 07 - 02:22 PM
MMario 30 Apr 07 - 02:24 PM
Jean(eanjay) 30 Apr 07 - 02:28 PM
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open mike 30 Apr 07 - 04:25 PM
The Fooles Troupe 30 Apr 07 - 05:28 PM
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open mike 01 May 07 - 01:43 AM
The Fooles Troupe 01 May 07 - 03:42 AM
Schantieman 01 May 07 - 04:24 AM
Geoff the Duck 01 May 07 - 04:52 AM
Bee 01 May 07 - 06:39 AM
Sorcha 01 May 07 - 08:10 AM
Bee 01 May 07 - 08:22 AM
Liz the Squeak 01 May 07 - 08:23 AM
Dave the Gnome 01 May 07 - 08:28 AM
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Liz the Squeak 01 May 07 - 10:45 AM
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Mo the caller 01 May 07 - 01:27 PM
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Liz the Squeak 02 May 07 - 03:43 AM
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Subject: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Mo the caller
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 11:38 AM

I'm taking some for my dance club's charity bookstall tonight.
No idea what it costs in the shops.
What size donation should I suggest?


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Sooz
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 12:53 PM

Its been at least a pound a pound on Gainsborough Market for the last few weeks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 12:57 PM

Sainsburys have it on offer at the moment for £1.99 for 400g (£1 less than usual), but that is without the leaves. I think its going up at the moment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Schantieman
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 01:43 PM

er....you don't want the leaves - they're poiso........


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Schantieman
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 01:47 PM

Cheaper in a greengrocer's. Cheaper still if you grow it yourself, or know someone who does.

At the risk of thread creep (although it's still seasonal): what's the point of asparagus?   Am I missing something or does it just taste of whatever you put on it?

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 01:49 PM

The leaves are poisonous but I have seen people giving rhubarb away leaves and all. The best thing to do would be to cut off the leaves, see how many sticks for 1lb or 500g and charge maximum £1 for that number of sticks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: ced2
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 02:22 PM

Pontefract, Wakefield are the places to go for rhubarb, famous for it trouble is custard keeps leeking away.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: MMario
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 02:24 PM

Asparagus has a very distinctive taste (and odour)


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 02:28 PM

I like asparagus but only "in small doses".


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Sorcha
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 03:05 PM

BUY rhubarb??? Heaven Forbid! This town must be the rhubarb captial of the world! Everybody has it growing, and we can't get rid of the stuff!

PS--I love aspargus! Plain, sauced, cooked, raw.....gee whiz.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: open mike
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 04:25 PM

http://www.rhubarbinfo.com/
http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/r/rhubar14.html
Rhubarb is the root of different species of Rheum,
growing in the mountains of the Western and North-
western provinces of China and in the adjoining
Thibetan terrtory.
http://www.plantea.com/rhubarb.htm
also known as Pie Plant, it is often combined with strawberries.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 05:28 PM

rhubarbrhubarbrhubarb

Who let that crowd in?

rhubarbrhubarbrhubarbrhubarbrhubarbrhubarbcustardrhubarbrhubarbrhubarb



Sorry ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Mickey191
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 10:44 PM

MY Dad used to grow Rhubarb. I could never understand why. Then my Mom would take our lovely homegrown strawberries & put the two together to make jam. As a kid-I tried to talk her out of it. I pulled no weight. I still think it's a sin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 May 07 - 01:21 AM

Trade you my rhubarb, and see you an aspargus patch?


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: open mike
Date: 01 May 07 - 01:43 AM

foolestroope,,i thought that the word used in crowd scenes in movies
was rootabaga..


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 01 May 07 - 03:42 AM

Don't be rude....

I quoted from The Goon Show.... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Schantieman
Date: 01 May 07 - 04:24 AM

...and it's a petiole, not a root.

S


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 01 May 07 - 04:52 AM

Rhubarb from the rhubarb triangle.
It's a bit like the Bermuda triangle, but it has rhubarb instead of garish long shorts.
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Bee
Date: 01 May 07 - 06:39 AM

Almost one hundred years ago my grandfather planted an acre of rhubarb on a steep slope behind his cow barn. He directed the runoff from the manure pile down through the field. The rhubarb is still flourishing, though with the absence of cows, it isn't getting as big as it once did. It's had no care at all for thirty years, and still weeds can't take hold in it. The whole family still harvests great piles of it, and there's always tons left over.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 May 07 - 08:10 AM

Oh dear...I can't begin to imagine an acre of the stuff.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Bee
Date: 01 May 07 - 08:22 AM

We used to play hide and seek in it when we were kids, and we had all kinds of kiddy uses for the giant leaves.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 01 May 07 - 08:23 AM

I am one of those turned off rhubarb at school. The point of rhubarb crumble has eluded me for 35 years and I'm not about to start looking again at my time of life.

Apparently it wasn't too bad if you drowned it in custard, but as I'm no custard lover either.....

Rhubarb wine on the other hand, is worth drinking. Dry and tart, a great little rose' wine to have with a creamy chicken dish.

Asparagus on the other hand... could eat it every day if I was allowed to. It's got it's own distinct flavour and the only sauce I give it is melted butter or mushroom puree.

LTS - must go get some lunch... wonder what I could have...!


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 May 07 - 08:28 AM

What was the stuff that grew wild and looked like giant rhubard? As kids we called it 'Elephant rhubarb'. The stalks were a good 4-6" in diameter and the leaves must have been up to four ot five feet across. Unless that was just because I was little...

Cheers

Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: John J
Date: 01 May 07 - 10:32 AM

Rhubarb comes from Timperley.

JJ


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 01 May 07 - 10:45 AM

I know the plant you mean Dave, it's a marsh/water side plant and is related to the rhubarb, called the gunnera. Plants grow up to 6ft tall, leaves 2ft across with dark red undersides and deep red flower spikes.

As a tiddler, it may well have looked bigger.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 01 May 07 - 11:04 AM

I like rhubarb but I never liked any sort of crumble. When it mixes with the fruit juice it seems to develop a bitter taste that I find most unpleasant - in spite of the fact that I like the bitterness in coffee and dark chocolate.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: dianavan
Date: 01 May 07 - 01:11 PM

The bitterness is oxalic acid. Some people are quite allergic to it. I always pour boiling water over the chunks and let it stand a few minutes and then drain the water. Seems to get rid of alot of the acid.

It grows like a weed around here. I have a variety in my garden that is a very pretty, ruby red. I freeze some and give away the rest. The sauce is nice if you can it and use it in the winter on yogurt.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat wins again
From: Mo the caller
Date: 01 May 07 - 01:27 PM

Well done. I asked this on Mudcat and in the gardening section of a self sufficiency site. You had answered while I was eating my tea.

Now how about the other question I asked them, I don't think they've answered that either (26 hours on)
My rhubarb is growing in congested clumps. How much should I pull. If I don't pull it the stems go flabby and the leaves yellow, but there must be a limit to avoid weakening the root.
I know you should not pull it after June as the oxalic acid gets into the stems then, and the root needs to recover.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 01 May 07 - 01:38 PM

Old joke warning.










Do you put manure on your rhubarb?







No I put custard on mine!


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: dianavan
Date: 01 May 07 - 01:41 PM

Pull all you want. Just leave a few stalks in the center of the clumps. Next year, in the early Spring, separate those clumps and you will have an abundance of healthy stalks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: MMario
Date: 01 May 07 - 02:12 PM

cut no more then 1/3 of the stalks at any one time; choosing the full sized ones. When the new stalks remain spindly is the time to stop harvesting - depending on the vigor of the plant this might be june, it might be july or even later.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Mo the caller
Date: 01 May 07 - 03:43 PM

Thank you, you've beaten them on horticulture too!


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 01 May 07 - 04:10 PM

Is that as in " you can lead a hore to culture, but you can't make her think..."
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: John J
Date: 01 May 07 - 07:18 PM

Amongst my many hobbies & past-times I enjoy backpacking, that is taking my tent and buggering off for variable amounts of time in the few wild places we still have in the U.K. I'm also very fond of my food.

My favourite back-packing pudding consists of dehydrated stewed rhubarb served up with Birds Instant Custard. Believe me, when you're miles from anyone / anywhere, the rain is rattling on the tent and the wind is howling, there's nothing quite like snuggling down into your sleeping bag and tucking into a pan-full of rhubarb and custard. I'm feeling hungry just thinking about it!

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 May 07 - 07:21 PM

MMario, you say; "...cut no more then 1/3 of the stalks at any one time; choosing the full sized ones".

I was taught that one NEVER cuts rhubarb. The plant can overcome it but it does knock it back. On the other hand, if one pulls it from its sheath the growth continues without pause.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: GUEST,pattyClink
Date: 01 May 07 - 09:42 PM

I'm with JohnJ, and I don't need to be camping and starving. Cook it in chunks with a little water and sugar til soft and soupy. Ladle, still warm, over vanilla ice cream.   Delicious comfort food.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 May 07 - 10:32 PM

Rhubarb pie topped with vanilla ice cream- superb! Here in prairie Canada, the plants are just beginning to show.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 May 07 - 03:43 AM

Ebbie is right, you should never harvest rhubarb by cutting, but by pulling the stalks gently straight up. That way you get the tender pale part that was under the soil and is supposed to taste better.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 02 May 07 - 05:05 AM

Thought you were supposed to put an upturned bucket over the plant so that it ALL goes pale and tender.
As in - you can't take rhubarb to water, but you can force it!
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 02 May 07 - 05:07 AM

Isn't the price of rhubarb eternal damnation? Or wasn't I listening carefully during that sermon?
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 02 May 07 - 05:10 AM

We could combine the current threads :-

BS: Price of rhubarb UK
BS: Richard Hearne, Mr Pastry
BS: DC Madam

























And get a rhubarb tart...

Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 May 07 - 05:24 AM

Geoff... you have entirely too much time on your hands - go learn a new tune or something!!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 May 07 - 08:22 AM

"if one pulls it from its sheath the growth continues without pause"

My girlfriend...


No... Ok then I won't say asy anymore...


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: maeve
Date: 02 May 07 - 08:39 AM

We have eleven varieties of rhubarb, and are looking for others. Try it cooked any way you like, sweetened with maple syrup; mmmmm!

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: ced2
Date: 02 May 07 - 02:44 PM

Isn't an excess of rhubarb fatal for feathered webby quacky things found on northern rivers Geoff? Something about promoting violent internal movements I believe. Prunes may have the same effect


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: mouldy
Date: 02 May 07 - 02:52 PM

When I was a kid my dad had a lovely rhubarb patch, and one treat was to have a stalk of rhubarb and some sugar on a saucer to dip it in - then crunch!
The next door neighbour asked my dad how he got such good rhubarb and got the reply, "The dog goes on there". They never asked for any again.

Rhubarb has been a medicinal plant for a few centuries now.

Andrea


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: MMario
Date: 02 May 07 - 03:01 PM

To some extent it depends on where you live; what they told us when I was in college (an ag degree is useful sometimes!) was that in wetter climes pulling is less harmful to the plant then cutting; in dryer climates, the reverse.

Commercial growers normally cut and cut ALL stalks; which gives them a much shorter season.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 May 07 - 06:13 PM

Pale rhubarb?
A hybridizer in Edmonton (Canada) spent years developing plants with deep red stalks. They are the favorite here in western Canada.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 02 May 07 - 07:02 PM

And the other old saying I learned was:-
The wages of sin are...


















three shilling an hour if you're lucky. And time and a half for night shift, which is why most burglary goes on after dark. or weekends and Bank Holidays, when it's double time...
Quack!
GtD.
p.s. Liz - There aren't enough hours in the day for me to have TOO MUCH time on my hands.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: mouldy
Date: 03 May 07 - 05:09 AM

As well as the usual Victoria and Timperley, I have a variety of rhubarb in my garden called Cawood Delight. It has very short and very deep red stalks. Cawood it about 10 miles from me, and I actually found this variety in a garden centre.

Andrea


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: gnomad
Date: 03 May 07 - 11:34 AM

Cawood is outside the rhubarb triangle, but not by much (assuming we're talking about the Cawood which is on the river Ouse). When I lived in the triangle I remember rhubarb was almost a religion among its growers, which I suppose was understandable as many of them were single-product businesses. Lovely stuff, had some only last week, courtesy of Raggytash, and it was v.tasty.

The pale, forced, stuff is highly-prized for its delicate flavour, more costly to grow, and hence highly-priced.

The unforced stuff costs less, and has a more robust flavour. I actually prefer it, and would choose it even if price were no consideration. A cheap date, me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Schantieman
Date: 03 May 07 - 03:05 PM

My best friend grows it in his garden. Three or four plants and despite him having four teenage kids who eat it there's plenty left.

Crumble is my favourite, with real Bird's custard (real as in made with the powder, sugar & milk rather than out of a packet - NOT real custard made with eggs and stuff). I invented (well, probably not) a rather more refined version the other week: large wineglass half full of rhubard gently stewed with brown sugar and a little ginger; an inch of natural live yogurt on top of that, then a sprinkling of chocolate-coated raisins. Yum.

S


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: MMario
Date: 03 May 07 - 03:07 PM

The deeper the red the higher the price hereabouts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: Charmion
Date: 03 May 07 - 03:17 PM

People buy rhubarb?


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: mouldy
Date: 04 May 07 - 08:51 AM

Yes gnomad, it is that Cawood. It's lucky if the stalks get much beyond 6", but the colour's lovely. I suppose it might be happier if I put it in a better place and gave it some muck...

Andrea - off to raid the rhubarb patch now!


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: gnomad
Date: 04 May 07 - 07:37 PM

6" is seriously short [for rhubarb], how thick does it get? Is this some sort of dwarf species maybe?


Just reread the above and had to add the for rhubarb & species bits, don't want to get misunderstood ;-] I'm just jealous really, no garden here...awwww.


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: mouldy
Date: 05 May 07 - 03:30 PM

The stalks get to about 1" thick maximum and the leaves don't get very big either, but then I tend to ignore it, don't feed it, and it's not in a particularly good spot - poor thing. However, I have had it for quite a few years now, and my garden is quite small.

Andrea


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Subject: RE: BS: Price of rhubarb UK
From: dianavan
Date: 06 May 07 - 04:11 AM

Andrea - If you want it to grow bigger, pee in a pot and spread it around (not on) the rhubarb. I know this from a friend who used to make the 'boys', pee, "out there by the rhubarb patch". I don't know why, but its the best fertilizer for rhubarb.


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