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Subject: So - who would you choose? From: Ruth Archer Date: 30 Apr 07 - 03:17 AM Let's say a festival wanted to have a whole thread of programming devoted to the more traditional end of folk, to cater for potential attenders who were not really that interested in the mainstage "stars". And they wanted to include a few talks, and maybe some great dance sides, and some singarounds and such... If you were programming this part of the festival, who would you choose? What would you like to see? All just theoretical, of course... ;0) |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: The Borchester Echo Date: 30 Apr 07 - 04:07 AM You start your train of thought quite randomly at, say, Ryburn Three Step (past and present) and there are immediately your workshop leaders: Chris Coe and Mary Humphreys for song and instrumentation, Pete Coe and Johnny Adams for tunes and Sue Coe for dance. You move on to their various collaborators and hangers on: John Dipper Band with Alice Jones, The Old Swans and Tiger Moths. Somewhere among this you get Sue Harris and Chris Coe doing a hammer dulcimer workshop and Anahata gives a demonstration of cello accompaniment. At Pete Coe's free reed workshop, Dan Quinn and Will Duke just happen to pass by, then the Crucible/Hekety-type population of Sheffield and an assortment of Gloworms and Mawkins. Laurel Swift, Gina Le Faux, Fi Fraser, John Dipper, Jackie Oates, Jess Arrowsmith and Jamie Delarre will do a joint fiddle workshop. I should add that for the purposes of this 'theory', all Watersons, Carthys, Bellowhead/Faustus/Van Eyken types are out of the country/can't be afforded. Anyway, this is invidious. YOU'RE the programmer, you choose . . . |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: treewind Date: 30 Apr 07 - 06:10 AM The now-defunct National at Sutton Bonington was just such a festival, (except for the dance teams) but I suspect Ruth knew that. As for Countess Richard's suggestions, I couldn't possibly comment.... Anahata |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: George Papavgeris Date: 30 Apr 07 - 06:44 AM No, the countess is in her element here, and can't be bested. I'll add some names for voices - whether concert or singaround environment: Graham Metcalfe, Ian Giles, Ian Woods, Jim Causley, Geoff Wesley, Johnny Collins/Jim Mageean, Dave Webber/Anni Fentiman, Bill Whaley/Dave Fletcher. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: GUEST,Tom Bliss Date: 30 Apr 07 - 06:51 AM Small world eh - I'm only editing a DVD of Gina on advanced fiddle this very minute. And has Mary joined the Ryburns? Now that I've got to see! |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: johnadams Date: 30 Apr 07 - 06:54 AM Thanks for the plug - with a line up like that I certainly wouldn't want to be elsewhere that weekend - and it does sound like the National! Amongst the many names I could add, I'll just put in one for the moment and that's Steve Turner who did a lovely gig at the Ryburn club this season. Although it was a mixture of stuff that he sang, it's the traditional songs that I'm still humming. J |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: The Borchester Echo Date: 30 Apr 07 - 07:03 AM Steve Turner YES! He turned up somewhere I was as few weeks ago and did Isle Of St Helena and I. sorry to admit I'd forgotten how brilliant that accompaniment is. And yes to all George's singing suggestions. Tom Bliss, can you get other Tom to bring his banjo cos I'm just had an idea for Pete Coe, Mary Humphreys (who USED to be a Ryburn) and him which no-one will dare joak (I mean joke) about. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: GUEST,Tom Bliss Date: 30 Apr 07 - 07:09 AM Try getting him to come without it! Actually, cross-dressing 5-strings and tenors can be very illuminating about technique and ornamentation and variations and such. I'll never forget the time I lost my voice at Furness Fest, and Rob Murch joined Tom for a few. Riveting. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: The Borchester Echo Date: 30 Apr 07 - 07:11 AM Apologies for the typos which are entirely as a result of the effect of Steve Turner's playing . . . |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: The Borchester Echo Date: 30 Apr 07 - 07:13 AM Rob Murch, yes. And any other pixies can come. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: GUEST,Tom Bliss Date: 30 Apr 07 - 07:17 AM Specially Cyril - what a tidy drummer that man is! Mind you I'd like to hear him on moothie. You know there's a place near Stoney Stratford named after the greatest traditional harmonica player of all time - Yardley Gobion. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: muppitz Date: 30 Apr 07 - 07:37 AM I'd be tempted to add the Wilson family to the list, I know not everything they do is Traditional but the stuff that is Trad is good and the stuff that isn't is sung in a Traditional style. muppitz x |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Ruth Archer Date: 30 Apr 07 - 08:36 AM All mightily good suggestions! Re the National: to be honest, that's my jumping off point. I'm not suggesting that we could hope to replicate it, but its demise has certainly left a gap in provision. And not a lot of festivals seem to include a really traditional strand of programming alongside the more commercial stuff - this is what I'm hoping to do. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Blowzabella Date: 30 Apr 07 - 08:41 AM Well, I'd like to see Tim Laycock there - and Louis Killen - and Jim Eldon. Please. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Ruth Archer Date: 30 Apr 07 - 08:49 AM Snap! |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: The Borchester Echo Date: 30 Apr 07 - 08:53 AM So, would I, so would I . . . But who's paying for all this? |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: George Papavgeris Date: 30 Apr 07 - 08:53 AM Can we have Scottish? Mick West please! |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Ruth Archer Date: 30 Apr 07 - 09:01 AM Well, it's not a whole traditional festival, Countess. It's just one strand of programming. But I reckon you could put it together for the cost of maybe two mainstage headliners, and hopefully attract enough additional attenders to make it pay for itself, which is all it has to do. The suggestions here will certainly be helpful. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: The Borchester Echo Date: 30 Apr 07 - 09:09 AM That's what I mean, it's just one strand and the cost of who's been mentioned so far would overspend most budgets a kazillion times over. Unless you have a benefactor with megabucks cascading from pockets. Even if the 'mainstage headliners' (whoever they might be) do it for nowt. Ha! |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: George Papavgeris Date: 30 Apr 07 - 09:12 AM Ooh, dunno, countess - the names I mentioned don't cost megabucks. You could have them all for under a G, I reckon. Why, one of them actually hates getting paid, it makes him feel dirty, sold-out (not telling who!). |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: melodeonboy Date: 30 Apr 07 - 09:13 AM If you're including talks: Shirley Collins. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: The Sandman Date: 30 Apr 07 - 09:21 AM RoyPalmer for talks, wilsons,loius Killen Royharris,BrianPeters,KeithKendrick. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Ruth Archer Date: 30 Apr 07 - 11:13 AM I reckon you're right, George. I'm budgeting rather more than that, in order to include workshops etc. We managed to sell out and make the festival pay for itself last year - we even made a bit of money. Which is clearly unheard of, so this year I obviously want to take more risks and end up in the red, like a proper festival. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Grab Date: 30 Apr 07 - 01:30 PM Smith and Dyer? |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: GUEST,Tom Bliss Date: 30 Apr 07 - 01:40 PM Dyer and Swan? |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: George Papavgeris Date: 30 Apr 07 - 02:10 PM You wanna tradisional grick moosick? I no samwan who haff a cousin... |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Ruth Archer Date: 30 Apr 07 - 02:52 PM Any chance you can bring some of that lamb with you...? |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Tootler Date: 30 Apr 07 - 06:36 PM Lot's of singers. How about some more musicians? Alistair Anderson, Pauline Cato & Tom McConville, 422. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Blowzabella Date: 30 Apr 07 - 06:37 PM Louis Killen is a musician, Tim Laycock is a musician, Jim Eldon is a musician - they are singers as well, but i wouldn't want to tell any of them that they are not musicians ...... |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Wolfhound person Date: 01 May 07 - 08:49 AM Andy May, Jimmy Little, Andy & Margaret Watchorn, Rob & Ali Say, Chris Ormston, Colin Ross, Adrian Schofield |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Ruth Archer Date: 01 May 07 - 09:19 AM wolfhound: yours is the first post that's got me going, "Who?" |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: The Borchester Echo Date: 01 May 07 - 09:27 AM Me too. Sorry. Do you mean Colin Ross the fiddler and Northumbrian piper? If so, can he bring Ray Fisher? And as for Adrian Schofield, I've heard the name but can't remember where. Haven't heard of any of the others. What do they do? |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Wolfhound person Date: 01 May 07 - 12:25 PM Northumbrian music: the hidden (living ) tradition!! Andy May, Chris Ormston and Adrian Schofield are the three top N. pipers around ATM. (Yes, really!!) Andy M is a Bad Penny if that helps. Adrian S. is the highly coloured one from Bolton, but don't be put off by appearances. Andy & Margaret Watchorn, and Rob & Ali Say are fiddle / pipe duos - both strongly rooted in their tradition. Rob also plays concertina. Jimmy Little is a brilliant moothie player, the best since Will Atkinson passed on. Colin Ross you've got right, also one of the best (and little regarded) traditional exponents of both his instruments. Ray Fisher is much better after her serious op. the other year, and does sing a little, but AFAIK is not accepting formal bookings....yet. Does that help? Paws |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Ruth Archer Date: 01 May 07 - 03:36 PM very much - thank you! |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: The Borchester Echo Date: 01 May 07 - 03:52 PM I now remember having met Rob Say at a workshop some years ago. He was a very brave tutor who let us maul his pipes and subject them to very unaccustomed treatment. He was very patient and trusting workshop leader who enthused all of us there and had us all playing recognisable tunes. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: greg stephens Date: 01 May 07 - 04:08 PM Rees Wesson, Paul Roberts, Flos Headford, Dan Quinn, Mike Hurst,Chris "Yorkie" Bartram. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: greg stephens Date: 01 May 07 - 04:10 PM I also think the Boat Band might fit the spec outlined in the initial post. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Jack Campin Date: 01 May 07 - 07:49 PM If you were looking for Scottish singers I would suggest Chris Miles, Scott Gardiner and Caroline Pugh. |
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Subject: RE: So - who would you choose? From: Ruth Archer Date: 02 May 07 - 02:56 AM funny that, greg! :D |
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