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BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney

GUEST,Peter Woodruff 24 Apr 07 - 11:18 PM
Peace 24 Apr 07 - 11:59 PM
katlaughing 25 Apr 07 - 12:03 AM
dianavan 25 Apr 07 - 02:50 AM
George Papavgeris 25 Apr 07 - 02:58 AM
JohnInKansas 25 Apr 07 - 06:47 AM
Mrrzy 25 Apr 07 - 09:32 AM
Rapparee 25 Apr 07 - 09:49 AM
The Fooles Troupe 25 Apr 07 - 10:37 AM
Peace 25 Apr 07 - 11:18 AM
Amos 25 Apr 07 - 11:30 AM
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Subject: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 11:18 PM

Dennis Kucinich filed Resolution 333 to impeach Cheney today. Transcript can be found at AfterDowningStreet.org

Peter

What will Resolution 666 be?


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 11:59 PM

Well, I guess you'll find out what your Congress is made of, huh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 12:03 AM

Hot damn! Not sure it will happen, but at least someone has the guts to actually file for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: dianavan
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 02:50 AM

Brilliant! I was always afraid that if Bush were impeached, we'd be stuck with Cheney. This is very smart thinking. Without Cheney, Bush is more than a lame duck. He's a dead duck.

Regardless of the cost, it is the duty of Congress to impeach this traitor. It will restore the confidence of Americans and repair the reputation of American justice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 02:58 AM

Can someone please explain Resolution 333 for us across the water? I agree with dianavan, very clever move to go for Cheney. But as Bruce says, now let's see who stands up to be counted. I think if they fail to pass this, it will not reflect well for the Democrats, come next election. But I am outside things there, so my view could be overly simplistic.

Watching with interest...


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 06:47 AM

Explanation:

1. Kucinich has declared himself to be a candidate for the Presidency.

2. Obama is possibly the "leading(?)" candidate among Democrats at this time.

3. Kucinich has been critical of Obama on grounds that Obama is willing to "go along with" continuing involvement in Iraq.

4. Kucinich has introduced a "Resolution" which will go nowhere, but which gives hime a "talking point" to claim that he's the "action candidate" who's actually "done something."

Quick extract of summary: Kucinick has pissed off the bow of the boat, and is now ready to brag about being somewhat damp.

[NOTE: the above is the sarcastic version.]

I'd be quite happy to see a real backbone in the Congress, and that Congress would stand up to the Administration as is their duty under the Constitution. A first look at the "Resolution" doesn't give much hope that this is anything other than political posturing for the purpose of getting a brief headline. I hope I'm wrong; but ...

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Mrrzy
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 09:32 AM

Let's impeach them both and get some real boobs into the White House!


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 09:49 AM

Afraid I agree with JiK. It's a political move, not a reality. Even if the House DID agree to any impeachment proceedings the Senate would have to convict -- and there have been two impeachments at that level and NO convictions in two hundred and thirty-one years. I'm afraid that the President or VP could be guilty of raping a convent of nuns, chopping his grandmother into pieces, selling the US back to the British, setting fire to Library of Congress, and peeing in the soup and the Senate would still not convict.


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 10:37 AM

333 !!!! - so only 'half evil'?!!!

Of course, I do know it really should be only 308 since 616 is the 'real original' number....


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 11:18 AM

I would expect Kucinich is receiving as much flak from Democrats as he is from Republicans. However, I also think that may change.

"When Pelosi arrives at the California Democratic Convention in San Diego on April 28--the same day that activists nationwide will rally for presidential accountability--she'll find on the agenda a resolution that declares that the actions of President Bush and Vice President Cheney "warrant impeachment and trial, and removal from office." Delegates are expected to endorse the measure."

from the www.


Wouldnt it be nice if we were older
Then we wouldnt have to wait so long
And wouldnt it be nice to live together
In the kind of world where we belong

You know its gonna make it that much better
When we can say goodnight and stay together

Wouldnt it be nice if we could wake up
In the morning when the day is new
And after having spent the day together
Hold each other close the whole night through

Happy times together weve been spending
I wish that every kiss was neverending
Wouldnt it be nice

Maybe if we think and wish and hope and pray it might come true
Baby then there wouldnt be a single thing we couldnt do
We could be married
And then wed be happy

Wouldnt it be nice

You know it seems the more we talk about it
It only makes it worse to live without it
But lets talk about it
Wouldnt it be nice


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Amos
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 11:30 AM

Aw, Peace -- only you could soften a whole political thread by injecting doowop!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 12:09 PM

Mebbe I'm just way, way, too cynical....


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Amos
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 12:11 PM

You are, indeed, good sir. But i this case, I think your pessiism may be justified, in spite of my hopes otherwise.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 12:42 PM

from the Washington Post:

Kucinich's Battle Against Cheney Not So (Im)Peachy Keen

Please use links instead of cut and paste that exceeds one monitor screen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: PoppaGator
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 12:48 PM

Ever heard Kucinich sing "Sixteen Tons"?

He'd be well advised to keep his Congressional day job & forget about ever being elected President.


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 12:48 PM

They can't impeach Cheney....why, that would force Bush to actually make some decisions on his own!


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Amos
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 12:49 PM

The implication, tacitly running through this article, that he does NOT stand with millions of Americans, is misleading and distortive. See the "Declaration of Impeachment" thread which points to a small percentage of those who bleieve Sheny should be impeached and why. Along with his fat-headed manager, W. Or is it the other way 'round?




A


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 01:45 PM

Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich has filed articles of impeachment against Vice President Cheney.

The Ohio congressman says Cheney manipulated and fabricated information about weapons of mass destruction to justify the war in Iraq. And he says filing the articles is important because the threat of a war with Iran "is very real."

Kucinich says the vice president cannot be allowed to violate the U-S Constitution and the United Nations Charter.

The House impeachment process requires the entire chamber to determine whether a panel should start an impeachment inquiry. House speaker Nancy Pelosi has said impeachment is off the table.

A spokeswoman for Cheney says the Vice President has served the nation honorably for nearly 40 years and is focused on serious issues.


The above is from News4 on the www.



Well, we'll see who in the House has stones.


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: PoppaGator
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 02:49 PM

Amos, I'm pretty sure that Cheney is the real boss ~ if not the Antichrist ~ and that dumbass W is nothing more than his little marionette.


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 10:24 PM

Amos--

"Wouldn't It Be Nice?" is doo-wop? A whole bunch of doo-woppers are likely to demur.

I happen to really like the song--of course I'm not an unbiased observer--I'm really indebted to the Beach Boys for falsetto--otherwise I have a lousy range. But doo-wop it ain't.

However, possibly more on topic: saw a great bumper-sticker Sunday: " Cheney/Satan 2008"


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Amos
Date: 26 Apr 07 - 01:13 AM

Well, ok, Ron, ok. It's not classic doowop. More like "oo-wah", surf sound. I mis-spoke.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: GUEST,Jeff
Date: 26 Apr 07 - 11:00 PM

Read the article from the Washington Post. It's too bad the writer took such a cynical view. I grew up in Cleveland, Oh and have known of Kucinich since he was on the city council. He's been pulling grandstand stunts like this for years. Screaming at the council president, shaking papers while shouting on the mic in council chambers...all kinds of histrionics. He was mayor for a while. Got elected to congress and has served many terms...he must be doing SOMETHING right, though having not lived there for a long time I haven't followed his development into a national figure. Have seen him interviewed a few times over the years. My perspective is that he's a bit of a madman and pretty marginalized, politically speaking. However, this time I believe the madman's got it right. And he's going after the right guy. Dick Cheney is completely corrupt. Has been a sleazey insider for years. Influence peddling, abuse of power, intimidation...he's got it all. Just the Haliburton connection alone should be enough to convince anyone. Nevermind, the whole Scooter Libby thing. GWB is a dupe, a product of the assumption of privilege. Errand boy for the oil companies. There'll be a little noise, nothing will be done by congress and 100 years from now people will wonder why nobody listened to the crazy congressman from Ohio when the evidence was so clear.


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 26 Apr 07 - 11:15 PM

GUEST,Jeff, I love that piece of writing and the thoughts that provoked it. Bravo!


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Apr 07 - 11:52 PM

Cheney says bin Laden tried to assisinate him in Afghanistan.
Couldn't we just let nature take its course with Dick?

but what about the most noble American family who has given devoted service to: the CIA, the executive branch - three times, the Senate once, two govenorships, the executive security board for the WTC, Silverado Bank, the silver haired matriarch who said Katrina victims never had it so good, the grandpa who invested heavily in 3rd Reich industries and friends in good standing with Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emerites and the bin Laden family...?



(Drums with brush on cymbals)

The Bush Bros.
...............
Way out west, in Connecticutt
came the big Bush brothers in their short brush cuts
They sell snake oil an they pump their gas but
Whenever they're Washington, Iraq's attacked fast.

If you're in, their gas station
Everything is fixed with privitiz zation
They say the lord tells'em what to do but
their self service pump, says fuck yourself too

Chorus:
Can they fix our schools NO NO NO
Can they fix our air NO NO NO
Ya know damn well they can't fix our oceans,
The only thing they fix are our elections



........................................
For the rest of my song and a hundred more
You cud see my website but it ain't no mo
Someone said it was inflammatory
so they went and erased it, its the same ol story.


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: M.Ted
Date: 27 Apr 07 - 12:48 PM

For those who have better things to do than follow the political career of "Dennis the Menace"--the impeacher was himself impeached, or more accurately, recalled. Back in 1978, when he was Mayor of Cleveland, he was the subject of the city's first ever recall election--which he won, by about 200 votes.

He is listed as one of the ten worst big-city mayors of all time in the book, " Best and Worst of the Big-City Leaders 1820-1993"--for reasons of temperament and performance--owing to his propensity for rash acts, and a tendency to grandstand-


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 27 Apr 07 - 03:40 PM

"the impeacher was himself impeached"

Well, he'll know what it's all about then. Mr WILsooooooooonnnnnnn . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Dickey
Date: 28 Apr 07 - 03:05 AM

Official Kucinich campaign gear.


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Subject: RE: BS: Resolution 333 filed to Impeach Cheney
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Apr 07 - 10:25 AM

I was living outside Kent back in 1978 when Dennis was mayor of Cleveland.

He didn't impress me any more than Geraldo Rivera did by chasing a pimp down the streets of Akron. Both grandstanders with little or no substance.

Cheney might be impeached, but not through the actions of Dennis K.


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