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BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?

jimlad9 06 Mar 07 - 10:55 AM
beardedbruce 06 Mar 07 - 11:01 AM
Bill D 06 Mar 07 - 11:02 AM
Jeri 06 Mar 07 - 11:10 AM
Peace 06 Mar 07 - 11:23 AM
John MacKenzie 06 Mar 07 - 11:27 AM
Bill D 06 Mar 07 - 11:28 AM
George Papavgeris 06 Mar 07 - 11:33 AM
Wesley S 06 Mar 07 - 11:46 AM
autolycus 06 Mar 07 - 12:01 PM
beardedbruce 06 Mar 07 - 12:03 PM
Bill D 06 Mar 07 - 12:10 PM
autolycus 06 Mar 07 - 12:26 PM
Amos 06 Mar 07 - 12:32 PM
Peace 06 Mar 07 - 12:36 PM
Donuel 06 Mar 07 - 12:39 PM
John MacKenzie 06 Mar 07 - 12:48 PM

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Subject: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: jimlad9
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 10:55 AM

Re Camilla


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 11:01 AM

Everyone here has freedom of speech- Unless you differ with the MUDCAT party line and don't blame Bush for all evil.

Actually, Mudcat has a pretty loose control over censored topics. Most of us feel that the level of thread closing/editing is usually reasonable, and we comment if we see otherwise.

"BS: Cammilla's Plan 'B'" is still there- but we have the free speech to be able to comment we find it offensive.


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 11:02 AM

As several said, it was a bit beyond good taste, Jim.... 'freedom of speech' is never absolute in all situations. Best let the matter drop.


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 11:10 AM

You mean:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievnces.
?

The US Congress made no law, the US government is not involved, so your alleged point is moot.


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 11:23 AM

I don't understand the purpose of this thread. Camilla is recovering from a hysterectomy. I hope the recovery is quick and complete.


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 11:27 AM

Jim if you'd said it about a Mudcat member like Jacqui C or Sinsull, for example, would you expect it to have remained unedited?
If your answers as I expect is No, then it begs the question.
By what right do you post comments like that against someone who has done you no harm whatsoever?

Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 11:28 AM

*nod*


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 11:33 AM

*ditto vigorously*


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: Wesley S
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 11:46 AM

I'm not sure where I heard it but I love to repeat it: "Just because you can - doesn't mean you should"


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: autolycus
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 12:01 PM

On my computer,the first post reads -"Re Camilla".

   So if not alone in that,some of us don't know what the issue is.






       Ivor


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 12:03 PM

to repeat in part my post ( 2nd on thread)

Actually, Mudcat has a pretty loose control over censored topics. Most of us feel that the level of thread closing/editing is usually reasonable, and we comment if we see otherwise.

"BS: Cammilla's Plan 'B'" is still there- but we have the free speech to be able to comment we find it offensive.


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 12:10 PM

"... we comment if we see otherwise."

oh, indeed (we) do! "Otherwise"...as in 'MY ox is being gored'!


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: autolycus
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 12:26 PM

Oh,I see.

jimlad9 - and your point is....?






       Ivor


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: Amos
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 12:32 PM

Jim:

Making obscure communications that assume someone will know what the feck you are on about, without the courtesy of a communication bridging from your own world to that of someone unfamiliar with it, is not a good way to get others to understand what the feck you are on about. A case in point would be starting a thread with a rip-roaring title like "Freedom of Speech" and then posting the word "Camilla" as your whole explanation. Does it occur to you that some poeple might not have been through all that you have, know all that you know, or think important all that you do? Come on, mate.

Regards,

A


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 12:36 PM

"Jim if you'd said it about a Mudcat member like Jacqui C or Sinsull, would you expect it to have remained unedited?"

That is a crap thing to say. They are neat people, but using them as an example like that implies that other neat people on Mudcat could have stuff said about them and it would matter less. Very unfortunate phrasing that will fuel further remarks about there being clones and friends of clones as one class and the great unwashed as another.


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 12:39 PM

Around here, the polite people say DON"T GO THERE.
The rest just say shut up.


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Subject: RE: BS: What has Happened to Freedom Of Speech ?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 12:48 PM

Bruce only your lateral logic could extrapolate a conclusion like that from my post.
Would you prefer I used your name instead?
G.


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