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Subject: Democracy on forums From: The Sandman Date: 18 Jul 06 - 05:20 AM I have only been on this forum a short while. But I would say that this forum is run in a more democratic way than some others.On another forum, the organiser has recently stated that his forum is a dictatorship and is not a democracy.So while I appreciate Shambles efforts to reopen, les cousins thread, I would like to point out that this forum,is more democratic than some, and Iappreciate that too .Thankyou Joe Offer. |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: The Shambles Date: 19 Jul 06 - 02:57 AM So while I appreciate Shambles efforts to reopen, les cousins thread, I would like to point out that this forum,is more democratic than some, and Iappreciate that too. Interesting that this thread has not been closed (yet). I suspect had the sentiments expressed in it been less favourable - it would have been. Perhaps I should correct the impression given here. As the originator of the thread mentioned - my recent request made in that thread (but now censorsed from it) was not for that long-running thread to be re-opened but fot it (along with others) to be closed. This was not because I think that any thread should be closed as this serves no useful purpose, but was simply making a point. Two threads were closed recently because the thread's originator requested that it should be and our unknown number of nameless censors were only too happy to oblige. When I asked for the same thing and for the same reasons - not only is my request not granted but by request is deleted with no indication that any censorship action had taken place or explanation as to why. Perhaps some explanation is due so that thread originators are treated equally and know what their entitlement is and is not. And perhaps it would be better for all concerned (and more democratic)if all threads, once started, were allowed to die a natural death? |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: Richard Bridge Date: 19 Jul 06 - 03:18 AM I think this is BS |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: GUEST,Jon Date: 19 Jul 06 - 05:55 AM shambles, I don't believe an originators request for thread closure alone has or will ever bring about the closure of a thread. Although it might trigger such an action, it is just another factor (eg. a thread has turned nasty) that might reasonably be taken into account when considering such actions. |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: The Shambles Date: 19 Jul 06 - 06:15 AM Perhaps it would be seen to be more fair if the originator's wishes were never be a factor or they were always to be a factor? I do not seem to be able to even choose the title of the threads I orignate, without another title being imposed without my knowledge or permission - where the wishes of some originators are able to prevent all other posters from continuing their discussion by getting the thread closed. It is just another area on our forum now, where personally motivated actions can be seen to be undertaken under this cover and where there is no protection from accusations that it has. Perhaps it would be better all contributions remained as posted? |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: GUEST Date: 19 Jul 06 - 06:47 AM It would be better if all contributions remain as posted. That's how it used to be before the schoolmarm started to complain and then took over by virtue of other's apathy and the sheepherd mentality of PC. BAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: GUEST,Jon Date: 19 Jul 06 - 06:49 AM Perhaps it would be seen to be more fair if the originator's wishes were never be a factor or they were always to be a factor? So far as I can see, it always is a factor. The last 2 I witnessed. Lizzie's: A controversial and argumentatitive thread from the start - action - CLOSED. Shamble's: A useful thread for reporting and commenting on the effects of "The Licening Act 2003" - action NOT closed. Seems reasonable to me, although Lizzie's one was one I believe should have been closed far sooner than it was - I do disagree (quite strongly in this instance) with Joe's (or any one elses) judgement at times but I believe far more good judgements than bad ones and that the overall effect of very limited moderation including thread closures is benificial. I know you would like to go back to older times - in some ways, so would I (although I do recognise a need to adapt with a changing Internet) but they would have to be pre late 1999 before I first looked in as, when I do look through older threads, the place does look as if it was clamer at one time. Where we differ is that it is my belief that the behaviour of posters has driven the introduction of new moderation features and if you wished to turn the clocks back, it would be the "customer base" that would need setting back in time, not the new features which simply would be used far less frequently. |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: The Shambles Date: 19 Jul 06 - 08:57 AM Where we differ is that it is my belief that the behaviour of posters has driven the introduction of new moderation features... There is only one side fighting now and all the casualties are from friendly fire. It is my view that all these needless restrictions, judgements and all the imposed deletions and closures and all the pompous justifications and excuses - are waving a red rag at a bull and are now presenting an irresistable target to a very few - who can just be safely ignored. Shamble's: A useful thread for reporting and commenting on the effects of "The Licening Act 2003" - action NOT closed. In fact that thread WAS subject to imposed closure. I posted the details of this closure into that thread and all reference to this was recently deleted. Because of Joe Offer's now firm and rigidly enforced rule that there can only be one thread on one subject at a time - that thread was closed by Joe Offer a few months back when another thread was started. It was only re-opened when I made the case for it and there were no further contribution made to the new one. |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: GUEST,Jon Date: 19 Jul 06 - 09:16 AM There is only one side fighting now and all the casualties are from friendly fire What on earth do you mean by that? |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: The Shambles Date: 19 Jul 06 - 10:07 AM Jon you have a heavily armed force and little sign of an obvious enemy - to prevent your side from shooting each other out of boredom - one sensible option may be to disarm. |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: catspaw49 Date: 19 Jul 06 - 10:44 AM Well that certainly is clearer now!!! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: freda underhill Date: 19 Jul 06 - 10:46 AM Exploding head syndrome is a rare condition first reported by a British physician in 1988[1] that causes the sufferer to occasionally experience a tremendously loud noise as if from within his or her own head, usually described as an explosion or a roar. This usually occurs within an hour or two of falling asleep, but is not the result of a dream. Although perceived as tremendously loud, the noise is usually not accompanied by pain. Attacks appear to increase and decrease in frequency over time, with several attacks occurring in a space of days or weeks followed by months of remission. Sufferers often feel a sense of terror and anxiety after an attack, accompanied by elevated heart rate. Attacks are also often accompanied by perceived flashes of light or difficulty in breathing. The condition is also known as 'auditory sleep starts'. The noise may be accompanied by a perceived bright flash of light, and the light on its own is known as a 'visual sleep start'. Note that exploding head syndrome does not actually cause one's head to explode. |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: number 6 Date: 19 Jul 06 - 11:00 AM I beleive one's head implodes with the "exploding head syndrome" sIx |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: Amos Date: 19 Jul 06 - 03:40 PM I wish exploding head syndrome did cause people's heads to actually explode. It would be a great filter for the gene pool -- those who can handle the duress of existence get to survive. Besides, it would be fun to watch. A |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: Alba Date: 19 Jul 06 - 04:07 PM Can I ask who is this supposed "schoolmarm" that's being targeted in certain posts? |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: Wesley S Date: 19 Jul 06 - 04:10 PM Dollars to donuts it's Joe Offer. |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: number 6 Date: 19 Jul 06 - 04:21 PM "I wish exploding head syndrome did cause people's heads to actually explode. It would be a great filter for the gene pool" ... the results would be way too messy. sIx |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: Bill D Date: 19 Jul 06 - 04:40 PM You know, we may not realize how lucky we are that Shambles is not obsessed with the turmoil in Israel and Lebanon. |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: Tootler Date: 19 Jul 06 - 06:35 PM Just as well because Shambles always sees things in terms of the glass being half empty rather than half full. |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: Georgiansilver Date: 19 Jul 06 - 06:44 PM Many other teenagers see life the same way. |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: Rapparee Date: 19 Jul 06 - 06:51 PM Neither forums nor anything else is "democratic." Never have been, never well be. And I don't think that there has ever been a "true" democracy anywhere ever. |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: Georgiansilver Date: 19 Jul 06 - 07:16 PM Depends who is in control of it eh? |
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Subject: RE: Democracy on forums From: number 6 Date: 19 Jul 06 - 09:15 PM "Many other teenagers see life the same way." well said Mike! :) sIx |
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