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Review: Sea Music CD: Save the Wawona

GUEST,mg 17 Jul 06 - 04:28 PM
Barry Finn 17 Jul 06 - 04:38 PM
Charley Noble 17 Jul 06 - 06:03 PM
Joe Offer 17 Jul 06 - 08:42 PM
Stewart 17 Jul 06 - 09:36 PM
Charley Noble 17 Jul 06 - 09:48 PM
Stewart 17 Jul 06 - 11:16 PM
Joe Offer 18 Jul 06 - 02:15 AM
Charley Noble 18 Jul 06 - 09:44 AM
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Subject: Review: SEA MUSIC CD: SAVE THE WAWONA
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 04:28 PM

I just came across this and hadn't heard of it before. Some great singers and songs you can preview from this site. Proceeds go to help save the Wawona...a very long-term effort by now..an old cod-fishing ship that sailed out of Seattle, WA USA...mg

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Subject: RE: Review: SEA MUSIC CD: SAVE THE WAWONA
From: Barry Finn
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 04:38 PM

Thanks mg, love "Come Down You Roses".

Barry


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Subject: RE: Review: SEA MUSIC CD: SAVE THE WAWONA
From: Charley Noble
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 06:03 PM

Could someone bring us up to date on the status of the Wawona? When I was out in Seattle a year ago she was about to be hauled away to some remote part of the harbor and her future did not look good. She appeared to be in as bad shape as San Francisco's Thayer was before her major rebuild.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Review: SEA MUSIC CD: SAVE THE WAWONA
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 08:42 PM

Hi, Charley -

For now, the ship is still at Lake Union. According to this article (click) in the Seattle Times, the nonprofit that owns the ship is supposed to move it by September 30, or the city of Seattle will have it destroyed.

Here's more from this National Park Service page:
    The three-masted, bald-headed (having no topmasts) Wawona is the largest
           sailing schooner built in North America. Constructed by Hans Bendixen
           at Fairhaven, California, she began her career in 1897 as a lumber ship,
           making quick runs up and down the Pacific Coast. In 1914, after 17 years
           of carrying lumber, she became part of the codfishing fleet that operated
           in the Bering Sea. By 1940 her crews had caught 6,830,400 codfish, a world's
           record for a catch by a single vessel. Conscripted during World War II
           for government use as a barge, she was re-rigged in 1946 and had two last
           seasons of codfishing. The Wawona then sat in port for nine years.
           In 1952, Capt. Ralph E. Petersen sought to turn Wawona into a South
           Seas cruise ship, but this plan ended due to a lack of funds. Even her
           1953 purchase by cattle rancher William Studdart and film star Gary Cooper
           failed to return her to the sea. The pair had planned to export beef cattle
           to the Soviet Union, but the deal fell apart during negotiations with
           the Russians. Fortunately, California's new maritime museum sparked public
           interest in rapidly disappearing historic ships and the public raised
           the money to save the Wawona from demolition. In 1964, Seattle's
           Northwest Seaport purchased her in order to create a maritime museum for
           Puget Sound. The last member of the Northwest's commercial sailing fleet,
           the Wawona is associated with an industry that shaped the growth
           and history of the Northwest.
          

    The Wawona is located on Lake Union, just north of downtown
              Seattle. The Wawona is part of Northwest Seaport's active volunteer
              program, and is undergoing restoration. She is open to the public. For
              more information contact 206-447-9800 or visit their website.


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Subject: RE: Review: SEA MUSIC CD: SAVE THE WAWONA
From: Stewart
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 09:36 PM

The city of Seattle Parks wants a nice tidy park with lots of grass and parking, with no ships in need of restoration spoiling the view. There are other historic ships that may need to be removed until they are fully restored and suitable for public view. Also ship repair/restoration yards are not compatible with a nice tidy park. All a little different from the popular Maritime Historic Park in San Francisco! Also, if the Museum of History and Industry moves into the old Navy Reserve Buildings as tentatively planned, it will not be restricted to maritime history, but will be a general history museum. It seems that maritime history will be just a minor part of this park. So much for maritime history in Seattle.

S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Review: SEA MUSIC CD: SAVE THE WAWONA
From: Charley Noble
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 09:48 PM

Joe-

Thanks for the update.

However, I do get irritated when news people make ignorant statements such as:

The three-masted, bald-headed (having no topmasts) Wawona is the largest
       sailing schooner built in North America.

The Wawona is a midget compared with the 6-masted schooner Wyoming that was built in Bath, Maine, in the early 1900's. She was in fact the largest wooden sailing ship ever built, even larger than McKay's Grand Republic.

I still fail to understand why the Northwest Seaport has proven so inept at fundraising over the years. One would think that Seattle would be fertile ground for serious fundraising, and that an old historic ship would be viewed as something special to preserve, I'm truly baffled.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Review: SEA MUSIC CD: SAVE THE WAWONA
From: Stewart
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 11:16 PM

Charley, there's a long history of many different splinter groups and infighting over the Wawona, as people who have been around here much longer than I have told me. But I'm "truly baffled" also. It's a very long and complicated story. Seattle has not been kind to its maritime history.

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Review: Sea Music CD: Save the Wawona
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Jul 06 - 02:15 AM

It's been a number of years since I saw the Wawona, but I thought it contributed to the wonderful funkiness of the Lake Union area. I guess funkiness isn't acceptable in Seattle any more.
It's sad that the Wawona hasn't been restored or at least stabilized, though - reminds me of the fate of the Wiscasset Schooners.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Review: Sea Music CD: Save the Wawona
From: Charley Noble
Date: 18 Jul 06 - 09:44 AM

The demise of the Wiscasset schooners in Maine is, perhaps, an even sadder story. The Town of Wiscasset used their rotting hulks as a tourist attraction for generations. At the same time it was one of the wealthiest towns in the states, with 90% of the real estate taxes being paid by its resident nuclear power plant. Did they use any tax dollars to stabilize the schooners or commission a new one? No way! However, they still sell images of the schooners as postcards and prints in the shops.

Grumble!
Charley Noble


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