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BS: Superman Returns

GUEST,Art Thieme 16 Jul 06 - 11:35 PM
Liz the Squeak 17 Jul 06 - 02:59 AM
Folk Form # 1 17 Jul 06 - 04:00 AM
Liz the Squeak 17 Jul 06 - 05:01 AM
*daylia* 17 Jul 06 - 08:07 AM
RangerSteve 17 Jul 06 - 10:48 AM
Wesley S 17 Jul 06 - 11:18 AM
Wesley S 17 Jul 06 - 11:19 AM
Clinton Hammond 17 Jul 06 - 11:48 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Jul 06 - 12:31 PM
Clinton Hammond 17 Jul 06 - 12:47 PM
GUEST,Art Thieme 17 Jul 06 - 03:19 PM
GUEST,Art Thieme 17 Jul 06 - 03:25 PM
Clinton Hammond 17 Jul 06 - 03:34 PM
WFDU - Ron Olesko 17 Jul 06 - 05:08 PM
Wesley S 17 Jul 06 - 05:18 PM
WFDU - Ron Olesko 17 Jul 06 - 05:23 PM
Clinton Hammond 17 Jul 06 - 05:42 PM
Wesley S 17 Jul 06 - 05:56 PM
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Subject: BS: Superman Returns
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 11:35 PM

Ebert gave it one and a half stars.

I saw it today and figure it to be worth at least 3, but probably 4.

Go figure!?

I wonder if we saw the same movie??!!

Art


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 02:59 AM

Different strokes for different folks... I wouldn't even pay to go and see it.

But then, I'm an X-Men/Wolverine sort of gal.. never could understand why Superheroes put their pants on over their tights (shorts on over their pantyhose).

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 04:00 AM

Does Superman were underpants under his suit?


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 05:01 AM

The absence of VPL would indicate no....

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: *daylia*
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 08:07 AM

Saw it at the IMAX theatre (in 3-D). Amazing! Great acting, a timeless story and a technological marvel of a production. I give it 4 stars!

The only thing I didn't care for was the blatant "Christ-ification" of the Man of Steel -- "the Father's Voice" directing him ie ..."they are a strange people but they have great potential -- and so I have sent them YOU, my Son ..."; his self-sacrificing saving of the world, after which he falls back to Earth 'dead' and in crucifixion pose, no less.

Oh BROTHER, I say! Give it a break, willya!

I did like the treatment of women, and of men as characters though. For example, no manly duking it out with Lois' new mate. This is the 21st Century! THe 'rivals' are portrayed as understanding, emotionally controlled, mutually supportive, more concerned with Lois-and-child's well-being than their own wants. What a giant leap forward for mankind!

And no 'saving' poor helpless little Lois either (well, he does of course - but she saves him at the end). Even the "villian woman" shows courage and integrity, doing her fair share of 'saving the world'.

I'll stop now though, before I let the whole story slip out! What awaits is a brand new and exciting 'twist' to the Superman saga that's fuel for a whole new series of movies I bet -- but you'll have to see it for yourself. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: RangerSteve
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 10:48 AM

The way they worked the "It's a bird, it's a plane" bit into the dialog was priceless. I only had one gripe, and it might be the fault of the theater where I saw it, but the first part seemed to take place at night and I could barely make out what was happening. Otherwise, I'd give it three stars. Ebert was off his rocker when he reviewed this one.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: Wesley S
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 11:18 AM

I think a lot of reviewers tend to see movies and judge them as if they were great art. It was a popcorn movie - that's all. I loved it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: Wesley S
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 11:19 AM

And I was glad to see the cameos by the old TV Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen. Esp. since my dad went to high school with Noel Neill.


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 11:48 AM

It was WAY better than X3.... and almost as good as Pirates 2.....

Hopefully we'll get at least 2 more good Superman movies


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 12:31 PM

Ebert loves Batman, Art.

I haven't seen the new Superman movie, but I picked up a used copy of Batman Begins and watched it a couple of nights ago. What a surprise. Nary a primary color in the movie. Very dark, like th re-invention of Batman a few years ago as the Dark Knight.

I really respect Ebert as a film critic, but you can throw his comments out the window when he reviews anything related to his childhood or comic book heroes. He becomes a little Gee Whiz kid again (which ain't all bad) and filters everything through his own childhood.

Of course, I always get it right.. :-)

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 12:47 PM

"Batman Begins"
It's nice to finally have a Batman movie that doesn't suck

Hopefully Bryan Singer will be the one to direct "Batman VS. Superman"

What a great movie adap. that could be!


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 03:19 PM

I thought it was a great tribute to the world as it is right now. Adults who act like adults. A good tribute to Chris Reeve in this Superman adopting and adapting his mannerisms. And Spacey's Lex seeming to emulate Hackman's Lex for a needed comic break (with some mannerism's from TVs Smallville's Lex--Jon Rosenbaum---it seemed right on to be and mellowed the darkness generally.

John Steinbeck's overbearing Christian religiosity in "East Of Eden" was pure lameness I have always thought. But here it was a nice touch laid on the story I thought. At least this film didn't have blatant Cain and Abel and all references by naming characters Caleb, and Amos, etc. How about Cuperman and ALex ??

Art ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 03:25 PM

That way Superman would be shown to posess a Jewish name (sort of)---A whole new can of worms. Is "Al Lex" a Palestinian name??

The cape is really a surreal talis... ??

Art


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 03:34 PM

"A good tribute to Chris Reeve"

Singer waa gonna have him cameo in the movie, until he died....


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 05:08 PM

I loved Superman Returns! Great cast, great story, wonderful fun! A good popcorn movie!   Supes was never my favorite, I've always been more of a Marvel fan, but this was a well made movie.   

Comic books are our modern folklore. The biblical touches were present since the character was created. It is not a piece of religious dogma, but a great adaptation of an old story into a modern treatment.

The last several years have been great! One of my favorite film adaptations was Hellboy.   I'm looking forward to the next Fantastic Four (with the Silver Surfer!) as well as Spidey 3!!   Down the line, there is a good chance that Captain Marvel (Shazam) and The Spirit will be made into films. I hope they don't screw it up!

Ron


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: Wesley S
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 05:18 PM

I thought the Surfer was going to have his own movie. I hope so - it will drive up the prices of my Silver Surfer collection.

I hear Iron Man is on the way too. But I think I'll skip Ghost Rider with Nicholas Cage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 05:23 PM

Apparently those plans were scrapped and he is supposedly part of FF2.

I saw a preview of Ghost Rider, it looks like it might be fun. Interesting character.


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 05:42 PM

I won't be well and truely happy till Hal Jordan appears on the big screen

    In brightest day, in blackest night
    No evil shall escape my sight
    Let those who worship evil's might
    Beware my power, Green Lantern's light!


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: Wesley S
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 05:56 PM

Isn't the new Green Lantern African-American ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Superman Returns
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 06:52 PM

ONE of the Green Lantern's is African-American. There were and are several.   

I've heard an ugly rumor that Jack Black was interested in making the Green Lantern into a movie. Just what we need, another camp superhero.   I like Jack Black, but I hope he doesn't do this!


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