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Subject: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: GUEST,washtub basser Date: 11 Jul 06 - 06:15 AM here's a link to see and hear my cardboard box upright bass, otherwise known as "Disposeable Bass" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHbfGjvTtQE knowledge is for everyone! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: Peace Date: 11 Jul 06 - 06:34 AM Cool. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: jimmyt Date: 11 Jul 06 - 06:51 AM please elaborate on your design! sounds great jimmyt |
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Subject: RE: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: Beer Date: 11 Jul 06 - 09:05 AM Far out!! Beer |
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Subject: RE: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: GUEST,elaboration ! Date: 11 Jul 06 - 10:13 AM ok, its just a plain light weight singly ply cardboard box... the oak neck is moulding cut in 3 pieces so it doesnt rest directly on the face or the bridge... the strings are weed whacker gauge .095 and .080 the heaviest i could find so i had to tune it to A and D(((did ya ever try to use an A string in the E string position???))) the bridge is just a piece of light-weight wood, i think it may be Balsa Wood! i used 2 drywall screws as a tail piece and i made tuning machine heads out of out-door-water-faucet-knobs with nuts and bolts tighted very tightly... i used "goriilla glue strongest glue on earth" to glue the neck to the body... and importantly, i made a transducer pickup from breaking the casing off of a Radio Shack Science Project Buzzer and placed it inside the body under the bridge using duct tape. there is no nut at the top of the neck. the box was free (a bathroom shelving) the neck was $6.00 6 screws were 2.00 glue was 4.00 (but i still have a whole bottle left) transducer 2.50 -------------------- 14.50 cheaper wood would be cheaper but the oak was the straightest. EVERYONE MAKE ONE! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: Mooh Date: 11 Jul 06 - 11:44 AM ...and it sounds pretty good too! Nice work! Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: GUEST,yep Date: 11 Jul 06 - 07:19 PM ... and i'm actually gigging with it (just one song) this weekend! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: Jack the Sailor Date: 11 Jul 06 - 08:03 PM how does it sound without the pickup? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: GUEST,pickup Date: 14 Jul 06 - 08:13 AM the cardboard bass isnt as loud as a normal Upright Bass, i couldnt gig with LOUD instruments without the pickup. I'm not sure why, or if it'll be possible to get more volume. I've learned quite a bit from other bassists offereing me their oppinions. I've added a soft wood bar that is attached directly under the bridge and presses tightly up against the back of the cardboard bass body as to allow a flow of resonance to get sound off of the back. It's an improvement, but still isnt as loud as an acoustic guitar. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: GUEST,arrrgh... video address changed Date: 23 Jul 06 - 08:33 AM urgh... being a non-tech as i am, i accidentally eraced the vid from this hosting place... so i reposted the cardboard box bass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6cTbaBApM4 this is a very easy project to build. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: JohnInKansas Date: 23 Jul 06 - 01:21 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6cTbaBApM4 John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: JohnInKansas Date: 23 Jul 06 - 01:28 PM To sound like a regular double bass you need a Double Tub. Well, actually you don't; but that one's served quite well for over 15 years, and hardly ever been in out of the rain. To get more volume, you really need a much heavier string, and a heavier string means you need much more tension. The one at the link runs at around 60 pounds, which is lower than seems common on regular basses, but the sound is close to a 3/4 concert bass - the common size used in blue John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: GUEST,very kewL tub Date: 25 Jul 06 - 06:44 AM very cool "double-tub bass" JohninKansas! i really want to find a .106" weed whacker twine or fishing line for my E string. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: A Cardboard Box Upright Bass video From: JohnInKansas Date: 25 Jul 06 - 07:54 AM I experimented with a number of different strings for the double-bucket. Quite a few people use weedwhacker line for the broomhandle type, but when pulled to enough tension for a full-length "fingered" double bass it's "creepy." You get it in tune, then it stretches, so you retune, then it stretches, and after a very few tunings of course it breaks. It's also deliberately made to be very "hard" compared to other kinds of polymer line, but isn't particularly uniform along the length. You can't get a "pure tone" from a lumpy string, so in my kind of bass it just didn't sound very good. It probably is more suited to instruments with a shorter string length (and lower tension) than I used. Most "twisted" cordage has a tendency to fray in a use of this kind, and ones I tried also seemed to have lots of damping, probably due to internal friction in the cord. I had the feeling that a braided fishline would work pretty well if one chose to adjust the string length to suit the line to be used, but I wasn't able to find a sufficient range in line weights to suit my particular design. The popularity of monofilament fishline has pretty much driven braided lines off the market, with the exception of small sizes for seine/net repair. Had really heavy braided fishline been available, I might have made it a four string instrument(?). The cord I finally settled on is sold as "lawnmower starter cord." It comes in only two "weights" (that I found) and I tried both, but settled on the heavier one. It has a stranded straight-through core that gives it very high strength with little stretch or creep, a very tight woven/braided casing that adds good weight/length, and is impregnated with a polymer so that everything is "clamped up" and there's relatively little internal damping when the string flexes. It's also quite waterproof, and of course grease/oil resistant. Based on experiments with other string types, I expected to need frequent replacements, so of course I bought a 300' reel. As the original string is going into it's 17th year of use with no sign of deteriorating, I guess I'm good for at least 850 years of playing ... unless I decide to fiddle with the design. John |
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