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Subject: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Ebbie Date: 05 Jul 06 - 11:37 AM Ken Lay, founder of Enron and convicted crook, has died. He used to be a good friend of our illustrious president. You suppose that Dubya will attend? From: |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Ebbie Date: 05 Jul 06 - 11:47 AM Some things just don't figure. I looked for a thread both topside and below on Lay's death and didn't find it. Now I see that a thread on it was posted a half hour before mine - why hadn't it shown up? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Wesley S Date: 05 Jul 06 - 12:17 PM I can think of a few thousand funerals he should have attended first. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: GUEST Date: 05 Jul 06 - 12:19 PM As usual, because of the idiot savant, trigger happy clones. They bounced the obit thread above and below the line, presumably because an anony started it. Though I'm sure now they will say they thought it was for 'lack of music content'. Until they brilliantly figured out I was also posting song parodies to the thread. So the simple answer to your question Ebbie is, they saw WHO originated the thread, and immediately bounced it down below. Eventually, that is. It did go missing for a bit, so perhaps they were thinking about deleting it because it was started by an anony guest. Then, after a few minutes in cyber-suspension, they put it back up top. A bit schiz, but that's the Mudcat clones for you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: GUEST Date: 05 Jul 06 - 12:22 PM No, he will not attend the funeral of a disgraced forum colleague who has been found guilty of bilking billions from investors and employees in the biggest scandal of his generation. His spinners couldn't fix that up and make it palatable in a billion years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 05 Jul 06 - 03:01 PM No but he'd love to attend Ann Richard's funeral. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 05 Jul 06 - 03:08 PM I wouldn't have any problem with Bush attending Lay's funeral... ...as long as he didn't do it at taxpayers' expense. Just calculate the cost of flying Airforce One round-trip from DC to Houston (I guess that's where the funeral will be.), ground transportation while there, and overtime pay for Houston police working the extra security details and deduct it all from Bush's salary. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: GUEST Date: 05 Jul 06 - 03:09 PM The question is: will he spit or piss on the grave? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Ebbie Date: 05 Jul 06 - 03:25 PM If he has any gratitude at all, he'll kiss the grave. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: GUEST Date: 05 Jul 06 - 03:58 PM Bush has as much commerce with gratitude as he does with honesty. None! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Amos Date: 05 Jul 06 - 04:33 PM I don't think that attending each other's funerals is mandatory in the cultural traditions of the Fat White Criminals class. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: GUEST Date: 05 Jul 06 - 04:41 PM Well, if you aren't coming to mine, then for sure I am not going to yours. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Amos Date: 05 Jul 06 - 08:26 PM Same to you, and twice over.... LOL! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: GUEST Date: 05 Jul 06 - 09:47 PM I hope Tom DeLay delivers the eulogy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Elmer Fudd Date: 05 Jul 06 - 10:04 PM Didn't someone say something once (or twice) about there being no honor among thieves? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Peace Date: 05 Jul 06 - 10:42 PM A man as busy as Bush has to set priorities . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: GUEST Date: 05 Jul 06 - 10:55 PM So which of Kenny Boy's 4 or 5 Aspen home addresses does one give the florist? Yes, so sad how he "lost everything" when he was convicted, isn't it? Frankly, he wasn't even worthy of the subdued schadenfreude as we're seeing here. May he burn in hell, and his privateering co-conspirators in government and commerce follow him there quickly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: mrdux Date: 06 Jul 06 - 01:32 AM My bet is W. doesn't make an appearance. The spin began before the trial. In today's instalment, from the AP story: "White House press secretary Tony Snow said Wednesday he hadn't discussed Lay's death with the president. "'The president has described Ken Lay as an acquaintance. And many of the president's acquaintances have passed on during his time in office,' Snow said." Do you suppose Cheney will show up? michael |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Peace Date: 06 Jul 06 - 01:34 AM Well, he won't need the shotgun, will he! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: GUEST Date: 06 Jul 06 - 10:33 AM No, I don't think there will be anyone from the administration attending this one. They can't afford the bad press. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: skipy Date: 06 Jul 06 - 10:35 AM Is he dead? have you seen the body? or has he just escaped justice? Skipy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: GUEST Date: 06 Jul 06 - 12:50 PM Love a conspiracy theory do ya skipy? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: skipy Date: 06 Jul 06 - 07:28 PM Yes, whoever you are, try getting a name, you don't have to use your real one, for me I do it is Guest!!!!!!!! skipy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: kendall Date: 06 Jul 06 - 07:58 PM Harry Truman had a friend named Pendergast (not sure of the spelling) and that guy had a bad reputation in the honesty department. When he died, Truman stated that the man had been a friend, and he did go to the funeral. Truman was not an apple polisher/ P.R. man. He did what was right and to hell with the polls. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: GUEST Date: 06 Jul 06 - 08:11 PM He also didn't serve during the television era. Big difference, IMO. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Peace Date: 06 Jul 06 - 11:01 PM 'In addition, "Truman," an HBO film which debuted in late 1995, chronicled the man, his achievements and his involvement with important leaders, including corrupt Kansas City political boss Tom Pendergast. The movie was shot in the Kansas City area and gave several area actors the chance to rub shoulders with Gary "Truman" Sinise. "He had the perception of being a man of honesty and integrity and he spoke his mind," said Sam Rushay, an archivist at the Truman Library who has seen an increase in the number of scholars using the library to study Truman. "He was clearly a leader."' from somewhere on the www. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: GUEST Date: 13 Jul 06 - 12:29 PM Bush was going to the funeral, though it might not have been as obvious if this guy hadn't collapsed... http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/12/lay.lanier.ap/index.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Ebbie Date: 13 Jul 06 - 12:44 PM Guest, that speaks of former president Bush. Bush, the senior. I'd like to know is if an autopsy was performed on Lay's body. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: Wesley S Date: 13 Jul 06 - 02:12 PM I remember the day after he died hearing a doctor on NPR talking about how they were waiting for toxicology reports. But that's a long way from an autopsy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: GUEST Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:46 PM Did Bobert attend Tookie's funeral? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Dubya Attend Lay's Funeral? From: GUEST Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:51 PM Tookie's Funeral Draws Hundreds "Tookie is dead. We're not safer, we're not more secure, we're not more humane." Rev. Jesse Jackson (AP) Celebrities from hip-hop star Snoop Dogg to motivational speaker Tony Robbins lamented the execution of Stanley Tookie Williams at a funeral Tuesday that drew hundreds to the violence-wracked area where Williams founded the murderous Crips gang three decades ago. Under heavy police presence, mourners including gang members flashing hand signs waited in line to enter the 1,500-seat Bethel AME Church for a ceremony that stretched more than four hours. After the service, many of those outside the church dropped to the ground after hearing what sounded like three gunshots about a block away, but there were no injuries and no arrests. Vendors sold T-shirts with Williams' picture, and a large TV set up in the parking lot allowed the overflow crowd to watch the service. Williams was executed Dec. 13 despite clemency pleas from celebrities and others who said he had rededicated his life to peace. "It's nine-fifteen on twelve-thirteen and another black king will be taken from the scene," Snoop Dogg told mourners, reciting a poem about the execution. The line "I don't believe Stan did it" drew wild applause in the parking lot. Williams, 51, was put to death by injection at San Quentin Prison for the 1979 shotgun murders of a 7-Eleven clerk and three motel owners. "The war within me is over. I battled my demons and I was triumphant," Williams said in a recording played to mourners, whom he asked to spread a message to loved ones. "Teach them how to avoid our destructive footsteps. Teach them to strive for higher education. Teach them to promote peace and teach them to focus on rebuilding the neighborhoods that you, others and I helped to destroy." The Rev. Jesse Jackson decried the execution of Williams, who Jackson said saw himself in the end as a "healer, not a predator." "Tookie is dead. We're not safer, we're not more secure, we're not more humane," Jackson said. Robbins told the mourners he knew Williams only a short time but said he had "so much rage and so much anger" after his execution. While on death row, Williams wrote children's books warning against gang life. Those efforts attracted supporters who lobbied for clemency, arguing Williams had redeemed himself. But Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was unconvinced, and refused to spare his life. Several dozen gang members wearing blue attire associated with Crips gangs watched the funeral in the parking lot. One who identified himself as "Killowatt the Third," age 33, estimated there were 20 to 30 Crips-affiliated gangs there to honor Williams. "That's my role model, man. That's the CEO of the Crips," he said. Al Birdsong, 54, a school security officer who waited for hours to get into the funeral, said Williams did not deserve to be executed after more than two decades in prison. "I'm here to pay my respects to humanity, and that goes to Tookie and everyone else they do in. ... What if it was your son?" Birdsong said. "He's no different from any other human being. We all made mistakes." Keelonnie Roberts, 23, of Torrance, said her father was a Crip who used to tell her tales of gang life. Although Roberts never met Williams, she said, "He seemed like a sweet man to me." Mourner Rick Hayes, 36, of Compton, wore a T-shirt with the slogan, "What does redemption mean ...," which he had made. If Williams was unable to earn clemency from the governor, "what can a black man do, what can he do in society, to get another chance at life?" Hayes asked. |
